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https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1695794212686450915?s=20

A lot going on here

Not really doing much for your cause when all you're doing is just pissing people off for no reason.

Xatrion posted...

Not really doing much for your cause when all you're doing is just pissing people off for no reason.

I wonder if they're a false flag from fossil fuel companies.

itcheyness posted...

I wonder if they're a false flag from fossil fuel companies.

big gas at it again

Imagine wanting to go to work.

Also, weird editing work too in that video. People legit disappearing in the background.

Xatrion posted...

Not really doing much for your cause when all you're doing is just pissing people off for no reason.

Where would you like them to protest? Somewhere you can't see them or hear them, so they don't disturb you or make you aware of the problem, maybe?

Xatrion posted...

Not really doing much for your cause when all you're doing is just pissing people off for no reason.

If you're not pissing anyone off, then your protesting is ineffective.

ClayGuida posted...

Imagine wanting to go to work.

If people are living paycheck to paycheck and need to pickup 2nd and 3rd side hustles/jobs to make ends meet then sadly, they do have to want to go to work.

DnDer posted...

Where would you like them to protest? Somewhere you can't see them or hear them, so they don't disturb you or make you aware of the problem, maybe?

"protests should be comfortable!"

Says the same group that attacked the US capitol.

Sexypwnstar posted...

If people are living paycheck to paycheck and need to pickup 2nd and 3rd side hustles/jobs to make ends meet then sadly, they do have to want to go to work.

Seems like that's something to protest about if a mild inconvenience is the barrier between paying rent or not.

Agree with the drivers being angry.
That one lady was fucking annoying though, some guys were trying to reason with them peacefully and she's marching around screaming.

I completely lost it at...

"I got kids to feed, bitch!"

DnDer posted...

Where would you like them to protest? Somewhere you can't see them or hear them, maybe, so they don't disturb you or make you aware of the problem, maybe?

How 'bout outside the homes of the people who actually make and pass legislation affecting the climate. Goppers, oil barons, idiot lawmakers. Not people who have nothing to do with it and can't effect the law in any meaningful way. Didn't really think that through, did you?

Xatrion posted...

Not really doing much for your cause when all you're doing is just pissing people off for no reason.

The actions of individual protesters should never effect your feelings on a cause. If they do, it means your initial opinion was not your true feeling.

ClayGuida posted...

Seems like that's something to protest about if a mild inconvenience is the barrier between paying rent or not.

Or at least unionize over, so you can quit at least one job because you forced the boss at just one of your jobs to pay you enough to feed yourself.

DnDer posted...

Where would you like them to protest? Somewhere you can't see them or hear them, so they don't disturb you or make you aware of the problem, maybe?

Where it affects the people theyre actually protesting against, not unrelated randos just trying to live their lives.

DnDer posted...

Where would you like them to protest? Somewhere you can't see them or hear them, so they don't disturb you or make you aware of the problem, maybe?

The side of the street would be a good idea.

Xatrion posted...

How 'bout outside the homes of the people who actually make and pass legislation affecting the climate. Goppers, oil barons, idiot lawmakers. Not people who have nothing to do with it and can't effect the law in any meaningful way. Didn't really think that through, did you?

Who do you think drives to work in DC?

Goppers, oil lobbyists, and conservative/idiot lawmakers.

And considering how many people commute into DC to work, every one of them is likely able to solve at least one of that trifecta by voting them out.

Feels like an effective call to action to me.

Xatrion posted...

How 'bout outside the homes of the people who actually make and pass legislation affecting the climate. Goppers, oil barons, idiot lawmakers. Not people who have nothing to do with it and can't effect the law in any meaningful way. Didn't really think that through, did you?

So black people deliberately disrupting thr whole of society to gain rights were wrong? They should have just sat on the front lawns of lawmakers? Would you have been out there telling them how their protesting was going to make people more racist?

Social unrest should compeltely disrupt the very fabric of society.

Tenlaar posted...

Where it affects the people theyre actually protesting against, not unrelated randos just trying to live their lives.

Voter and legislators driving to work in DC are "unrelated randos."

Sure.

ClayGuida posted...

Seems like that's something to protest about if a mild inconvenience is the barrier between paying rent or not.

So who's going to pay for them to protest while their family is starving and hungry? Want them to be homeless too?

DnDer posted...

Voter and legislators driving to work in DC are "unrelated randos."

Sure.

Yes.
If anything this performative shit wasting everyone's time will push people away from supporting them.

ClayGuida posted...

Imagine wanting to go to work.

Not for pleasure, but necessity

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes.
If anything this performative shit wasting everyone's time will push people away from supporting them.

Well then they never supported them.

There is nothing protesters could do to change my opinions. My beliefs aren't based on which side has the least annoying high-end.

Do people stop believing in humane treatment of animals because PETA gets violent?

ClayGuida posted...

Imagine wanting to go to work.

If somebody really loves their job

Xatrion posted...

How 'bout outside the homes of the people who actually make and pass legislation affecting the climate. Goppers, oil barons, idiot lawmakers. Not people who have nothing to do with it and can't effect the law in any meaningful way. Didn't really think that through, did you?

Who votes for those people?

ITT people who don't understand what a protest is.

DnDer posted...

Voter and legislators driving to work in DC are "unrelated randos."

Sure.

That is an immensely stupid way to go about it. Punching someone in the dick and saying thats because of the oil companies, doesnt that make you mad? isnt going to make them more mad at the oil companies. Itll just make them mad at you too.

Vyrulisse posted...

Yes.
If anything this performative shit wasting everyone's time will push people away from supporting them.

"Look what you made me do."

i love how heated arguments about protesting get from people who sit on their asses in computer chairs all day

Climate protesters stop running cars on the road...

We know these forms of protests from Europe. While I do generally agree with their goals, I think pissing of the masses is the wrong form of protests. It hasn't achieved anything in our countries yet.

Also, in some cases, their actions had severe consequences. There were cases where the traffic jam, that's caused by the protesters, prevented ambulances to fulfill their duties and people died because of that.

I just think they should pursue alternative forms of protests and engage themselves politically.

viewmaster_pi posted...

i love how heated arguments about protesting get from people who sit on their asses in computer chairs all day

Again, stick to drawing.

Xatrion posted...

How 'bout outside the homes of the people who actually make and pass legislation affecting the climate. Goppers, oil barons, idiot lawmakers. Not people who have nothing to do with it and can't effect the law in any meaningful way. Didn't really think that through, did you?

you mean the people with walls and huge yards who won't even be able to see or hear the protestors from inside?

Fuck anybody obstructing anothers ability to get to their livelihood

hockeybub89 posted...

So black people deliberately disrupting thr whole of society to gain rights were wrong? They should have just sat on the front lawns of lawmakers? Would you have been out there telling them how their protesting was going to make people more racist?

Social unrest should compeltely disrupt the very fabric of society.

The civil rights movement was a huge, multilayered, well organized organization that was supported by much of the population for years before they moved to direct action. You can't just skip laying all the groundwork and head straight to the barricades and expect the same result.

Hospy posted...

The civil rights movement was a huge, multilayered, well organized organization that was supported by much of the population for years before they moved to direct action. You can't just skip laying all the groundwork and head straight to the barricades and expect the same result.

But people don't say "It's okay to inconvenience the public as long as you laid the groundwork and worked hard at hearts and minds for years". They say "If you screw with people's days, then you're a piece of shit and everyone will turn against your cause!"

Again, not that it matters because people clearly are not for a cause if seeing some protesters block a road somewhere makes them go "I'm not going to agree with the side that has some protesters holding up traffic!"

I could get physically assaulted by a group of gamers and I wouldn't stop playing video games.

Though the negative effects of climate change aren't an opinion like liking video games, so maybe it's more like turning to alternative medicine because you saw a group of nurses burn a cop car.

Way to combat climate change by making people idle their cars longer than they would've lol

Why are road block protestors always the dumbest bitches ever >_> They feel like they gotta overcome their stupidity by being annoying.

DnDer posted...

Where would you like them to protest? Somewhere you can't see them or hear them, so they don't disturb you or make you aware of the problem, maybe?

That is the desire, yes.

It's fun picturing certain people during civil rights or women's suffrage protests.

"Look, I agree with you but since you inconvenienced me, fuck your rights!"

For a protest about climate change to work, you unfortunately need to be more organized and need the numbers of people on hand.

Small groups tend to be ignored and villainized easier when they do the above like blocking the roads.
But if there was a lot of people doing the same, THEN the message gets out better, along with showing that there is indeed enough people that DO care.

Sad part is, most people in the country don't seem to care or even think climate change is a big issue....until they're hit by a gigantic-ass storm event.

hockeybub89 posted...

But people don't say "It's okay to inconvenience the public as long as you laid the groundwork and worked hard at hearts and minds for years". They say "If you screw with people's days, then you're a piece of shit and everyone will turn against your cause!"

Again, not that it matters because people clearly are not for a cause if seeing some protesters block a road somewhere makes them go "I'm not going to agree with the side that has some protesters holding up traffic!"

I could get physically assaulted by a group of gamers and I wouldn't stop playing video games.

Though the negative effects of climate change aren't an opinion like liking video games, so maybe it's more like turning to alternative medicine because you saw a group of nurses burn a cop car.

The primary difference is the amount of people who agree with your cause in relation to how much you're disrupting society. It's not that the act itself is "okay" to inconvenience the public, but that a significant portion of said public agrees with said act occurring.

A popular protest of thousands obviously has more legitimacy than five people doing... whatever this is.

hockeybub89 posted...

They say "If you screw with people's days, then you're a piece of shit and everyone will turn against your cause!"

Have you ever made an argument without immediately resorting to hyperbolic strawmen in your life?

Xatrion posted...

How 'bout outside the homes of the people who actually make and pass legislation affecting the climate. Goppers, oil barons, idiot lawmakers. Not people who have nothing to do with it and can't effect the law in any meaningful way. Didn't really think that through, did you?

This.

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

If you're not pissing anyone off, then your protesting is ineffective.

Who and where you're pissing off matters. If you're pissing off "everyone, everywhere" that's not an effective protest. Most people probably won't even know what the hell you're protesting.

as a commuter, this enrages me too

it happened here in the bay area too when protesters blocked the Bay Bridge

like I know there are issues to protest about but we still have places to go

They played Chrono Trigger and want to prevent the day of Lavos

I'm shocked that they don't get coal rolled by guys in lifted trucks more often

Tenlaar posted...

Have you ever made an argument without immediately resorting to hyperbolic strawmen in your life?

So you disagree that the general argument against inconvenient protests is that it will hurt innocent people and turn them against a cause?

But they clearly didn't give a shit about the cause if it can turn them away.

At least it didnt escalate to this:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CarFu