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Verdekal
08/26/23 10:51:33 PM
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Wouldn't it make more sense to value those who contribute the most to humanity?

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Ricemills
08/29/23 7:39:35 AM
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No.
Logically people value people that contribute to the most of their personal life.

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action52
08/29/23 7:52:38 AM
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Verdekal posted...
Wouldn't it make more sense to value those who contribute the most to humanity?
Do you also wonder why Ross, being the largest Friend, does not simply eat the other five?

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VeggetaX
08/29/23 7:55:17 AM
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Ricemills posted...
No.
Logically people value people that contribute to the most of their personal life.
I wouldn't call that logical. I'd call that selfish

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Unsuprised_Pika
08/29/23 7:56:36 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
I wouldn't call that logical. I'd call that selfish

Bit of both really

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Sariana21
08/29/23 8:26:51 AM
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Evolutionary tribalism. We have evolved to want to protect our own.

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XBoner
08/29/23 8:30:17 AM
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Verdekal posted...
Wouldn't it make more sense to value those who contribute the most to humanity?
hey didn't you used to be a mod on this site? Doesn't every other animal also do this? especially if they are related to them. Evolution, kind of and it was brought up in mgs1. You might share some relation to them, so you want them to survive as well even without thinking of it

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A_Good_Boy
08/29/23 8:32:39 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
I wouldn't call that logical. I'd call that selfish
Why would it be selfish to want to invest time, resources, or emotions into someone you know personally over a total stranger?

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VeggetaX
08/29/23 8:51:11 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Why would it be selfish to want to invest time, resources, or emotions into someone you know personally over a total stranger?
This is assuming the total stranger contributes more to humanity than your personal friends as TC suggested. Nothing wrong with being selfish either.

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Philip027
08/29/23 8:53:05 AM
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This carries the implication that people value "humanity" more than they value the specific people they know.

Spoilers: most of us don't.
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Dreepapult
08/29/23 8:55:04 AM
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So I should give all my money to teachers, doctors, etc?

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VeggetaX
08/29/23 9:03:33 AM
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Philip027 posted...
This carries the implication that people value "humanity" more than they value the specific people they know.

Spoilers: most of us don't.
But we act like we do.

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Philip027
08/29/23 9:06:25 AM
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They do? News to me if so.

Isn't it the case that whenever the whole "you can only save your pet or a stranger's baby from a burning building" scenario is presented, the pet almost always wins?
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ai123
08/29/23 9:11:02 AM
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Philip027 posted...
They do? News to me if so.

Isn't it the case that whenever the whole "you can only save your pet or a stranger's baby from a burning building" scenario is presented, the pet almost always wins?
Shit. Really?

There's something wrong with anyone who would chose an animal over a human baby. Even if you're a committed edgy messageboard misanthrope, there are limits.


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VeggetaX
08/29/23 9:13:10 AM
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Philip027 posted...
They do? News to me if so.
Of course we do. Everyone wants to act like they're more morally superior than everyone else but it's all virtue signaling. People will act like they're doing shit for the greater good but honestly they do it for themselves. I believe it's a similar thought process.

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ai123
08/29/23 9:18:14 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Of course we do. Everyone wants to act like they're more morally superior than everyone else but it's all virtue signaling. People will act like they're doing shit for the greater good but honestly they do it for themselves. I believe it's a similar thought process.
That's a failure of the imagination and seeking to make excuses for your own selfishness.

Don't confuse cynicism for wisdom. Or sociopathy for intelligence.

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Philip027
08/29/23 9:18:46 AM
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Of course we do. Everyone wants to act like they're more morally superior than everyone else but it's all virtue signaling. People will act like they're doing shit for the greater good but honestly they do it for themselves. I believe it's a similar thought process.

I personally don't know very many people that would do that. If asked/pressed, most people I've encountered are very upfront over the preferential treatment they give to those in their close circle compared to that which they give to outsiders. Some will even let you know about it without actually having to ask them.

Here, I'll prove my own point. I'm not even a pet/animal person, but if I was and I did have a pet, you bet your ass I'd save them over some stranger's baby. One of these lives would simply be more important to me than the other.
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Fluttershy
08/29/23 9:31:40 AM
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impact aversion

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Unknown5uspect
08/29/23 9:34:25 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
I wouldn't call that logical. I'd call that selfish
Are you under the impression that selfishness is somehow illogical?

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VeggetaX
08/29/23 9:37:04 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
Are you under the impression that selfishness is somehow illogical?
It can be sure.

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RyukSan
08/29/23 9:37:10 AM
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Is this a serious question?
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LeoRavus
08/29/23 9:41:12 AM
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Define "value" here.

I personally know people I'd like to see take a long walk on a short pier.

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Verdekal
08/29/23 10:07:56 AM
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RyukSan posted...
Is this a serious question?
Partially.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/30/23 2:28:27 PM
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because of trust usually

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VeggetaX
08/30/23 2:31:18 PM
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It's funny, though. Some people take offense this. Like yeah you would most likely choose your friends, even blindly, than over a stranger regardless if it's more productive to go with a stranger.

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DementedDurian
08/30/23 2:32:33 PM
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Most people would automatically think of priests, politicans and police officers.

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XBoner
09/01/23 6:10:45 AM
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DementedDurian posted...
Most people would automatically think of priests, politicans and police officers.
why would they think that?

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