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radical_rhino 08/18/23 3:18:29 PM #1:	Just finished season 1. I was a little wary going into because I was aware of its mixed reception, and I remember shudder the Shannara Chronicles. I was pleasantly surprised how good it was. I mean, its a step down from Game of Thrones (seasons 1-6 at least if you want to be argumentative) in just about every aspect, but its still pretty good in its own right. The acting is pretty good. Standouts are Moraine, Nynaeve, and Thom Merrilin. Some actors are only okay but no one is bad, and theyre young and can improve in future seasons. Cgi was good enough; I thought the trolls were great in the first episode, and I like how magic is portrayed. I give the last two episodes a large pass because the show got fucked by Covid; Mats actor left, couldnt film in their planned locations, reduced budget, etc. The Ways were a hiking trail in an abyss, and The Blight was a dense ugly forest. I can confidently say after finishing the show, and reading peoples opinions on Reddit, that 90% of the criticism is from turbo-nerd fans raging over the fact that the show doesnt follow the books exactly. Large majority of the changes were to better serve the tv medium, to condense fourteen 1,000 page books into ~6-8 seasons, or to deal with Covid fallout. Cant wait for season 2! --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:975525978] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Just finished season 1. I was a little wary going into because I was aware of its mixed reception, and I remember shudder the Shannara Chronicles. I was pleasantly surprised how good it was. I mean, its a step down from Game of Thrones (seasons 1-6 at least if you want to be argumentative) in just about every aspect, but its still pretty good in its own right.The acting is pretty good. Standouts are Moraine, Nynaeve, and Thom Merrilin. Some actors are only okay but no one is bad, and theyre young and can improve in future seasons. Cgi was good enough; I thought the trolls were great in the first episode, and I like how magic is portrayed. I give the last two episodes a large pass because the show got fucked by Covid; Mats actor left, couldnt film in their planned locations, reduced budget, etc. The Ways were a hiking trail in an abyss, and The Blight was a dense ugly forest.I can confidently say after finishing the show, and reading peoples opinions on Reddit, that 90% of the criticism is from turbo-nerd fans raging over the fact that the show doesnt follow the books exactly. Large majority of the changes were to better serve the tv medium, to condense fourteen 1,000 page books into ~6-8 seasons, or to deal with Covid fallout. Cant wait for season 2! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 08/18/23 3:20:02 PM #2:	I should say I read like the first 9 books in elementary/middle school until I caught up to the author. I remember a lot of the world building and some plot details, but only vaguely. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:975526019] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I should say I read like the first 9 books in elementary/middle school until I caught up to the author. I remember a lot of the world building and some plot details, but only vaguely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ubergeneral3 08/18/23 3:20:11 PM #3:	the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them. --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich <cite>Ubergeneral3 posted [p:975526025] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth_C_Ryu 08/18/23 3:22:45 PM #5:	I wonder how many people will make noise about the whole ~~"men cannot use magic without getting tainted" thing.~~ Or that part where they go to ~~the nation where female magic users have magical slave collars.~~ --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:975526074] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I wonder how many people will make noise about the whole "men cannot use magic without getting tainted" thing. Or that part where they go to the nation where female magic users have magical slave collars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BunkerBoy 08/18/23 3:33:22 PM #6:	Ubergeneral3 posted... the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them. I liked it, but didn't like some parts where it didn't follow the book. Key plot elements were changed or dropped entirely which is going to make it harder and harder to keep close to the original story as the path deviates. <cite>BunkerBoy posted [p:975526250] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Ubergeneral3 posted... </cite><quote>the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them.</quote>I liked it, but didn't like some parts where it didn't follow the book. Key plot elements were changed or dropped entirely which is going to make it harder and harder to keep close to the original story as the path deviates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 08/18/23 3:35:31 PM #7:	Ubergeneral3 posted... the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them. i've never read the books and i thought it was pretty garbage because it was. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:975526300] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Ubergeneral3 posted... </cite><quote>the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them.</quote>i've never read the books and i thought it was pretty garbage because it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/18/23 3:36:32 PM #8:	it really is a phenomenal show. the books are amazing and the show is really great so far --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:975526321] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>it really is a phenomenal show. the books are amazing and the show is really great so far </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 08/18/23 3:37:54 PM #9:	Ubergeneral3 posted... the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them. I thought it was terrible but I enjoyed the lotr series. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:975526352] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Ubergeneral3 posted... </cite><quote>the people that dont like it are mad that it doesn't follow the book word for word. Don't listen to them.</quote>I thought it was terrible but I enjoyed the lotr series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 08/18/23 4:03:54 PM #10:	I really enjoyed it too. Season 2 on Sept 1. Waiting so long for it. btw - I read all the books. --- Posted under Ellesarian in a past life. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:975526800] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I really enjoyed it too. Season 2 on Sept 1. Waiting so long for it. btw - I read all the books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 4:08:08 PM #11:	That show is bad even if you havent read the books, as it contradicts its own self more than once. If you have, its a dumpster fire. Wheel of Time is my favorite book series. I thought the first couple of episodes were bad, from ~~character assassinating Abel Cauthon~~ early in the first episode. After that, I liked the next four or so episodes more and more as I accepted it as its own thing. But episode 7 was awful and episode 8 was one of the worst in television history. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975526882] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>That show is bad even if you havent read the books, as it contradicts its own self more than once. If you have, its a dumpster fire.Wheel of Time is my favorite book series. I thought the first couple of episodes were bad, from character assassinating Abel Cauthon early in the first episode. After that, I liked the next four or so episodes more and more as I accepted it as its own thing. But episode 7 was awful and episode 8 was one of the worst in television history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 08/18/23 4:16:46 PM #12:	I enjoyed it. It has issues, especially in some of the later episodes. I know some cast issues and Covid likely contributed somewhat. But I still look forward to S2, which has taken awhile to come out. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:975527062] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed it. It has issues, especially in some of the later episodes. I know some cast issues and Covid likely contributed somewhat. But I still look forward to S2, which has taken awhile to come out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 08/18/23 4:18:04 PM #13:	Overall, it is okay, but the last episode of the season was a disaster. What is the funny is that the best episode wasn't in the book at all - the 4th one with gentling Logain. --- Currently playing: Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order <cite>bsp77 posted [p:975527088] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Overall, it is okay, but the last episode of the season was a disaster. What is the funny is that the best episode wasn't in the book at all - the 4th one with gentling Logain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 4:20:18 PM #14:	bsp77 posted... Overall, it is okay, but the last episode of the season was a disaster. What is the funny is that the best episode wasn't in the book at all - the 4th one with gentling Logain. Thats the thing. There are plenty of gaps where you could create your own vision as to the HOW of some things we know happened in the books but didnt see happened. But if you think youre a better writer than Robert Jordan, youre not. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975527139] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>Overall, it is okay, but the last episode of the season was a disaster. What is the funny is that the best episode wasn't in the book at all - the 4th one with gentling Logain.</quote>Thats the thing. There are plenty of gaps where you could create your own vision as to the HOW of some things we know happened in the books but didnt see happened. But if you think youre a better writer than Robert Jordan, youre not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/18/23 4:21:30 PM #15:	From what I heard its better if the books are not fresh in your mind. I don't care about one to one accuracy. After all if that mattered the lord of the rings trilogy of films would be terrible as they make lots and lots of changes. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:975527165] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>From what I heard its better if the books are not fresh in your mind.I don't care about one to one accuracy. After all if that mattered the lord of the rings trilogy of films would be terrible as they make lots and lots of changes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 4:24:20 PM #16:	creativerealms posted... From what I heard its better if the books are not fresh in your mind. I don't care about one to one accuracy. After all if that mattered the lord of the rings trilogy of films would be terrible as they make lots and lots of changes. The difference is that in LOTR the changes were largely good ones that made sense. In this case not so much. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975527218] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>From what I heard its better if the books are not fresh in your mind.I don't care about one to one accuracy. After all if that mattered the lord of the rings trilogy of films would be terrible as they make lots and lots of changes.</quote>The difference is that in LOTR the changes were largely good ones that made sense. In this case not so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 08/18/23 4:24:39 PM #17:	PraetorXyn posted... But if you think youre a better writer than Robert Jordan, youre not. Well, he wasn't all that stellar in the last few books he wrote for the series. They were all pretty much filler books that hardly moved the story anywhere until Sanderson took over after his death. Pages and pages filled with how large the bosoms of certain Aes Sedai were and detailed descriptions of their dresses. The first 4-5 were as good as anything I have read....the last few were slogs. --- Posted under Ellesarian in a past life. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:975527224] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>But if you think youre a better writer than Robert Jordan, youre not.</quote>Well, he wasn't all that stellar in the last few books he wrote for the series. They were all pretty much filler books that hardly moved the story anywhere until Sanderson took over after his death. Pages and pages filled with how large the bosoms of certain Aes Sedai were and detailed descriptions of their dresses.The first 4-5 were as good as anything I have read....the last few were slogs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/18/23 4:25:35 PM #18:	Episode 4 was great, Ill give it that --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:975527238] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Episode 4 was great, Ill give it that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 08/18/23 4:27:03 PM #19:	i don't understand the point of having Perrin be married, only for her to be a textbook "Woman in the fridge" trope in a flashback to the Age of Legend, we see Lews Therin Telamon, and the person he's talking to cllas him the "Dragon REBORN" he's just the Dragon, not Reborn having Thom dressed in drab peasant clothes instead of the colourful gleeman outfir is a crime against nature --- Kremlin delenda est <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:975527264] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>i don't understand the point of having Perrin be married, only for her to be a textbook "Woman in the fridge" tropein a flashback to the Age of Legend, we see Lews Therin Telamon, and the person he's talking to cllas him the "Dragon REBORN"he's just the Dragon, not Rebornhaving Thom dressed in drab peasant clothes instead of the colourful gleeman outfir is a crime against nature </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/18/23 4:30:35 PM #20:	PraetorXyn posted... The difference is that in LOTR the changes were largely good ones that made sense. In this case not so much. I have to take your word for it. I haven't watched The Wheel of Time series and I am hearing mixed things. I am told that as long as accuracy isn't super important it's pretty good. But well all opinions are valid so you be you. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:975527366] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>The difference is that in LOTR the changes were largely good ones that made sense. In this case not so much.</quote>I have to take your word for it. I haven't watched The Wheel of Time series and I am hearing mixed things. I am told that as long as accuracy isn't super important it's pretty good. But well all opinions are valid so you be you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 08/18/23 4:32:47 PM #21:	PraetorXyn posted... Thats the thing. There are plenty of gaps where you could create your own vision as to the HOW of some things we know happened in the books but didnt see happened. But if you think youre a better writer than Robert Jordan, youre not. Years ago I started reading the books. I stopped after the 4th or 5th. The amount of sexist language, from both groups, and the number of issues that could be resolved if anybody would talk to each other, just became too much. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:975527419] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Thats the thing. There are plenty of gaps where you could create your own vision as to the HOW of some things we know happened in the books but didnt see happened. But if you think youre a better writer than Robert Jordan, youre not.</quote>Years ago I started reading the books. I stopped after the 4th or 5th. The amount of sexist language, from both groups, and the number of issues that could be resolved if anybody would talk to each other, just became too much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 4:32:57 PM #22:	Sandalorn posted... Well, he wasn't all that stellar in the last few books he wrote for the series. They were all pretty much filler books that hardly moved the story anywhere until Sanderson took over after his death. Pages and pages filled with how large the bosoms of certain Aes Sedai were and detailed descriptions of their dresses. The first 4-5 were as good as anything I have read....the last few were slogs. I disagree about 7-10, but U think his last book, Knufe of Dreams, is one of the best in the series. The things people typically criticize the slog for slow burn political intrigue and character work are things that series like ASOIAF and Realm of the Elderlings are praised for, so Ive never understood that. At any rate, the point youre trying to make would only be relevant when they got to that point in the story. Based on the portion theyve covered, their version is inarguably worse. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975527425] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>Well, he wasn't all that stellar in the last few books he wrote for the series. They were all pretty much filler books that hardly moved the story anywhere until Sanderson took over after his death. Pages and pages filled with how large the bosoms of certain Aes Sedai were and detailed descriptions of their dresses.The first 4-5 were as good as anything I have read....the last few were slogs.</quote>I disagree about 7-10, but U think his last book, Knufe of Dreams, is one of the best in the series.The things people typically criticize the slog for slow burn political intrigue and character work are things that series like ASOIAF and Realm of the Elderlings are praised for, so Ive never understood that.At any rate, the point youre trying to make would only be relevant when they got to that point in the story. Based on the portion theyve covered, their version is inarguably worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 08/18/23 4:33:12 PM #23:	Is the second season out yet? I enjoyed the first season, too, but I know it was rather pooh-poohed by the book fans. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:975527428] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Is the second season out yet? I enjoyed the first season, too, but I know it was rather pooh-poohed by the book fans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 08/18/23 4:34:13 PM #24:	Shotgunnova posted... Is the second season out yet? I enjoyed the first season, too, but I know it was rather pooh-poohed by the book fans. Sept 1 --- Posted under Ellesarian in a past life. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:975527457] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite><quote>Is the second season out yet? I enjoyed the first season, too, but I know it was rather pooh-poohed by the book fans.</quote>Sept 1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/18/23 4:34:42 PM #25:	PraetorXyn posted... The things people typically criticize the slog for slow burn political intrigue and character work are things that series like ASOIAF and Realm of the Elderlings are praised for, so Ive never understood that. The issue being like half of the stuff was pointless. Like the book and a half where Rand ~~becomes a weird sociopath~~ for reasons and then just stops. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:975527468] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>The things people typically criticize the slog for slow burn political intrigue and character work are things that series like ASOIAF and Realm of the Elderlings are praised for, so Ive never understood that.</quote>The issue being like half of the stuff was pointless.Like the book and a half where Rand becomes a weird sociopath for reasons and then just stops. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 4:35:04 PM #26:	Sir_Will posted... Years ago I started reading the books. I stopped after the 4th or 5th. The amount of sexist language, from both groups, and the number of issues that could be resolved if anybody would talk to each other, just became too much. This isnt the story for you then, as the male / female dichotomy contrasted with how they can only accomplish great things when they work together is one of the central pillars of it. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975527472] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Will posted... </cite><quote>Years ago I started reading the books. I stopped after the 4th or 5th. The amount of sexist language, from both groups, and the number of issues that could be resolved if anybody would talk to each other, just became too much.</quote>This isnt the story for you then, as the male / female dichotomy contrasted with how they can only accomplish great things when they work together is one of the central pillars of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 08/18/23 4:36:38 PM #27:	PraetorXyn posted... The things people typically criticize the slog for slow burn political intrigue and character work are things that series like ASOIAF and Realm of the Elderlings are praised for, so Ive never understood that. He literally would spend a chapter talking about a giant march of Aes Sedai and what they were wearing I read them all as they were released and I remember being so disappointed how almost nothing would happen in some of those books that until like the last chapter or 2 --- Currently playing: Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order <cite>bsp77 posted [p:975527506] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>The things people typically criticize the slog for slow burn political intrigue and character work are things that series like ASOIAF and Realm of the Elderlings are praised for, so Ive never understood that.</quote>He literally would spend a chapter talking about a giant march of Aes Sedai and what they were wearing I read them all as they were released and I remember being so disappointed how almost nothing would happen in some of those books that until like the last chapter or 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anony1125 08/18/23 4:40:09 PM #28:	Sandalorn posted... Pages and pages filled with how large the bosoms of certain Aes Sedai were and detailed descriptions of their dresses. Book #5 was ridiculous for all the breast mentions. I had heard someone say something about it so while re-reading I actually wrote down all the mentions in a notepad file. My god, it was like every second or third page. Nothing salacious or maybe that noticeable unless you're looking for it, but like everything Elayne and Nynaeve did in that book somehow revolved around them having breasts. It was hilarious. Then it becomes much less frequent after that book, I'm guessing an editor brought it to RJ's attention. --- Feeling really good. Faceless goofus in a sea of alts <cite>Anony1125 posted [p:975527592] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>Pages and pages filled with how large the bosoms of certain Aes Sedai were and detailed descriptions of their dresses.</quote>Book #5 was ridiculous for all the breast mentions. I had heard someone say something about it so while re-reading I actually wrote down all the mentions in a notepad file. My god, it was like every second or third page. Nothing salacious or maybe that noticeable unless you're looking for it, but like everything Elayne and Nynaeve did in that book somehow revolved around them having breasts. It was hilarious. Then it becomes much less frequent after that book, I'm guessing an editor brought it to RJ's attention. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Null_Gain 08/18/23 4:42:28 PM #29:	BunkerBoy posted... I liked it, but didn't like some parts where it didn't follow the book. Key plot elements were changed or dropped entirely which is going to make it harder and harder to keep close to the original story as the path deviates. What were some of the changes? --- Series S + Switch "Don't steal, stop being ignorant and respect other peoples beliefs." -perthboy on flying a Nazi flag <cite>Null_Gain posted [p:975527645] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>BunkerBoy posted... </cite><quote>I liked it, but didn't like some parts where it didn't follow the book. Key plot elements were changed or dropped entirely which is going to make it harder and harder to keep close to the original story as the path deviates.</quote>What were some of the changes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 08/18/23 4:46:19 PM #30:	Null_Gain posted... What were some of the changes? ROBANN_88 posted... i don't understand the point of having Perrin be married, only for her to be a textbook "Woman in the fridge" trope --- Kremlin delenda est <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:975527714] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Null_Gain posted... </cite><quote>What were some of the changes?</quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite><quote>i don't understand the point of having Perrin be married, only for her to be a textbook "Woman in the fridge" trope</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/18/23 4:47:24 PM #31:	ROBANN_88 posted... i don't understand the point of having Perrin be married, only for her to be a textbook "Woman in the fridge" trope Isn't that like 75% of ~~Faile's~~ storyline regardless? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:975527728] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite><quote>i don't understand the point of having Perrin be married, only for her to be a textbook "Woman in the fridge" trope</quote>Isn't that like 75% of Faile's storyline regardless? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 08/18/23 4:47:31 PM #32:	I didnt mind the show. The books have some pretty major flaws (spoilers for entire series) like none of the villains ever accomplishing anything apart from killing fodder pretty much ruining all the stakes, the main characters just realising they could do secret long lost talents on a whim. And the pacing. Seriously the pacing. now that all said. The show was good at times and then just awful s* the bed with extremely questionable choices regarding plot and lore. Ill continue with it. But the description for season 2 already has me saying what the f* --- Currently Playing: Grounded & Megaman Battle Network Legacy Collection Volume 1 <cite>Xerun posted [p:975527730] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I didnt mind the show. The books have some pretty major flaws (spoilers for entire series) like none of the villains ever accomplishing anything apart from killing fodder pretty much ruining all the stakes, the main characters just realising they could do secret long lost talents on a whim. And the pacing. Seriously the pacing. now that all said. The show was good at times and then just awful s* the bed with extremely questionable choices regarding plot and lore. Ill continue with it. But the description for season 2 already has me saying what the f* </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 08/18/23 4:53:21 PM #33:	I havent read the books but the show was god awful and I have no idea how anyone can like it --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:975527826] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I havent read the books but the show was god awful and I have no idea how anyone can like it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 4:59:35 PM #34:	bsp77 posted... He literally would spend a chapter talking about a giant march of Aes Sedai and what they were wearing I read them all as they were released and I remember being so disappointed how almost nothing would happen in some of those books that until like the last chapter or 2 The bold is the problem. I can see how theyd be a slog if you read at release and waited years between books. If you read them back to back without waiting years between, theyre fine IMO. I just did a re-read (though it was my first audio read) starting in January and finished up late July / early August. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975527937] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>He literally would spend a chapter talking about a giant march of Aes Sedai and what they were wearing I read them all as they were released and I remember being so disappointed how almost nothing would happen in some of those books that until like the last chapter or 2</quote>The bold is the problem. I can see how theyd be a slog if you read at release and waited years between books. If you read them back to back without waiting years between, theyre fine IMO. I just did a re-read (though it was my first audio read) starting in January and finished up late July / early August. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/18/23 5:09:54 PM #35:	PraetorXyn posted... The bold is the problem. I can see how theyd be a slog if you read at release and waited years between books. If you read them back to back without waiting years between, theyre fine IMO. I just did a re-read (though it was my first audio read) starting in January and finished up late July / early August. I dont know, the first book I had to wait for was book 12 and I found book 10 to be excruciating. The others all had their moments. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:975528131] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>The bold is the problem. I can see how theyd be a slog if you read at release and waited years between books. If you read them back to back without waiting years between, theyre fine IMO. I just did a re-read (though it was my first audio read) starting in January and finished up late July / early August.</quote>I dont know, the first book I had to wait for was book 12 and I found book 10 to be excruciating. The others all had their moments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 5:16:01 PM #37:	EndOfDiscOne posted... I dont know, the first book I had to wait for was book 12 and I found book 10 to be excruciating. The others all had their moments. Crossroads of Twilight is easily the worst book in the series, but its far from what Id call bad. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975528255] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>EndOfDiscOne posted... </cite><quote>I dont know, the first book I had to wait for was book 12 and I found book 10 to be excruciating. The others all had their moments.</quote>Crossroads of Twilight is easily the worst book in the series, but its far from what Id call bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 08/18/23 5:19:13 PM #38:	PraetorXyn posted... This isnt the story for you then, as the male / female dichotomy contrasted with how they can only accomplish great things when they work together is one of the central pillars of it. And that can work. But not when you're repeating the same thing for 12 very long books. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:975528335] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>This isnt the story for you then, as the male / female dichotomy contrasted with how they can only accomplish great things when they work together is one of the central pillars of it.</quote>And that can work. But not when you're repeating the same thing for 12 very long books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 08/18/23 5:19:26 PM #39:	PraetorXyn posted... Crossroads of Twilight is easily the worst book in the series, but its far from what Id call bad. i read them all at once. I remember hating 8 entirely as it was a giant waste of time. I hated 9 except for I think Rands plot. And 10 was the worst trash Id read in a long time. 11 was great though --- Currently Playing: Grounded & Megaman Battle Network Legacy Collection Volume 1 <cite>Xerun posted [p:975528339] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Crossroads of Twilight is easily the worst book in the series, but its far from what Id call bad.</quote>i read them all at once. I remember hating 8 entirely as it was a giant waste of time. I hated 9 except for I think Rands plot. And 10 was the worst trash Id read in a long time. 11 was great though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/18/23 5:20:58 PM #40:	I don't care that it doesn't follow the book word-for-word. I care that it completely misses the tone of the series and took the story about 30 steps too far in the "crapsack, grizzly, rapey, torture porn world" direction because Game of Thrones did it. Just like every other fantasy series to come out after game of thrones. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:975528373] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I don't care that it doesn't follow the book word-for-word.I care that it completely misses the tone of the series and took the story about 30 steps too far in the "crapsack, grizzly, rapey, torture porn world" direction because Game of Thrones did it. Just like every other fantasy series to come out after game of thrones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 5:26:10 PM #41:	DarkBuster22904 posted... I don't care that it doesn't follow the book word-for-word. I care that it completely misses the tone of the series and took the story about 30 steps too far in the "crapsack, grizzly, rapey, torture porn world" direction because Game of Thrones did it. Just like every other fantasy series to come out after game of thrones. This is mostly my take on it. I actually dont mind them showing the show be more dark, as some very dark things happen in that story, but Jordan wasnt the kind of author to show them, revel in them, etc. and more of a fade to black author. But they really did fuck up the time even from episode 1. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975528503] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>I don't care that it doesn't follow the book word-for-word.I care that it completely misses the tone of the series and took the story about 30 steps too far in the "crapsack, grizzly, rapey, torture porn world" direction because Game of Thrones did it. Just like every other fantasy series to come out after game of thrones.</quote>This is mostly my take on it. I actually dont mind them showing the show be more dark, as some very dark things happen in that story, but Jordan wasnt the kind of author to show them, revel in them, etc. and more of a fade to black author. But they really did fuck up the time even from episode 1. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FarmIcon 08/18/23 5:32:00 PM #42:	PraetorXyn posted... Crossroads of Twilight is easily the worst book in the series, but its far from what Id call bad. The series was good up to 8. It was at that point it started to spin wheels. RJ then wasted 2 books then died The show is bad, really bad. The Moriane and Suian teleport scene in the White tower is infurating to book readers who watched . The teleport doesnt come about till the 5th book. It's even convoulted then. It moraine can take the group to Tear at the start and be done with the whole thing. Idiotic storytelling <cite>FarmIcon posted [p:975528635] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Crossroads of Twilight is easily the worst book in the series, but its far from what Id call bad.</quote>The series was good up to 8. It was at that point it started to spin wheels. RJ then wasted 2 books then diedThe show is bad, really bad. The Moriane and Suian teleport scene in the White tower is infurating to book readers who watched . The teleport doesnt come about till the 5th book. It's even convoulted then. It moraine can take the group to Tear at the start and be done with the whole thing. Idiotic storytelling </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/18/23 5:46:08 PM #43:	FarmIcon posted... The series was good up to 8. It was at that point it started to spin wheels. RJ then wasted 2 books then died The show is bad, really bad. The Moriane and Suian teleport scene in the White tower is infurating to book readers who watched . The teleport doesnt come about till the 5th book. It's even convoulted then. It moraine can take the group to Tear at the start and be done with the whole thing. Idiotic storytelling To be clear, I dont think they depicted ~~Traveling~~ in the show, thats just what they made a ~~Waygate~~ look like. The last four books are by far the best IMO for what its worth. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:975528899] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>FarmIcon posted... </cite><quote>The series was good up to 8. It was at that point it started to spin wheels. RJ then wasted 2 books then diedThe show is bad, really bad. The Moriane and Suian teleport scene in the White tower is infurating to book readers who watched . The teleport doesnt come about till the 5th book. It's even convoulted then. It moraine can take the group to Tear at the start and be done with the whole thing. Idiotic storytelling</quote>To be clear, I dont think they depicted Traveling in the show, thats just what they made a Waygate look like.The last four books are by far the best IMO for what its worth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/18/23 5:46:59 PM #44:	the first 4 and the last 3 books are the best in the series the show was great overall. there were some dumb decisions made but overall it was really solid --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:975528911] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>the first 4 and the last 3 books are the best in the series the show was great overall. there were some dumb decisions made but overall it was really solid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/18/23 5:55:55 PM #45:	My favorite was always book 5 despite the slow start. But books 12 and 13 were awesome too. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:975529058] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>My favorite was always book 5 despite the slow start. But books 12 and 13 were awesome too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 08/18/23 5:57:53 PM #46:	My main criticism of the show is that it severely overcorrects the book's issue with pacing. Where as the books can be very long winded and sometimes an outright slog, the show is blazing fast and crammed way too much and cut way too much into one very short season. Something this massive really needs at least 10 episodes, you can't cram the whole story into 8 episode seasons. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:975529080] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>My main criticism of the show is that it severely overcorrects the book's issue with pacing.Where as the books can be very long winded and sometimes an outright slog, the show is blazing fast and crammed way too much and cut way too much into one very short season. Something this massive really needs at least 10 episodes, you can't cram the whole story into 8 episode seasons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragulaRULEZ 08/18/23 6:02:03 PM #47:	Took out Someshta & Loial. They got Tom Bombadil'D. --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." <cite>DragulaRULEZ posted [p:975529149] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Took out Someshta & Loial. They got Tom Bombadil'D. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 08/18/23 6:23:48 PM #48:	I've not seen the show, but I've just read the first book. Please tell me they have Journey's Wheel in the Sky as the theme song. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:975529351] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I've not seen the show, but I've just read the first book. Please tell me they have Journey's Wheel in the Sky as the theme song. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 08/18/23 6:26:29 PM #49:	I loved it, myself. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:975529390] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>I loved it, myself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/18/23 6:41:23 PM #50:	Now yeah Wheel of Time shouldn't be given the tone of Game of Thrones. I don't remember the books too well but I do know that while they had their dark moments they were not that grim dark. If that's the tone the show is going for that not really that good. I will still watch the show with an open mind but that's a point against it. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:975529733] in The Wheel ... [t:80540307]...</cite> <quote>Now yeah Wheel of Time shouldn't be given the tone of Game of Thrones. I don't remember the books too well but I do know that while they had their dark moments they were not that grim dark. If that's the tone the show is going for that not really that good.I will still watch the show with an open mind but that's a point against it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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