Board 8 > Board 8 Watches and Ranks Animated Movies 4 - The Results Topic 2: Top Five

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The list so far:

30. The Angry Birds Movie
29. Sita Sings the Blues
28. Lightyear
27. The Hobbit
26. Strange World
25. Ne Zha
24. Yellow Submarine
23. Sing 2
22. The Willoughbys
21. DC League of Super-Pets
20. Early Man
19. Vivo
18. Turning Red
17. The Girl Without Hands
16. The Sea Beast
15. Waltz with Bashir
14. Wendell and Wild
13. Ron's Gone Wrong
12. My Father's Dragon
11. Apollo 10 1/2: A Space Age Childhood
10. Flee
9. Birdboy: The Forgotten Children
8. The Little Prince
7. The Big Bad Fox & Other Tales
6. The House

Tag. C'mon let's keep not eliminating my top three!

5. The Bad Guys

Plasma: 1
Inviso: 3
Suprak: 3
Red: 4
Karo: 6
Ermine: 6
Mythiot: 16
Evillord: 21
Johnbobb: 29

Total: 89

Plasma: Now were talking! This one grabbed me right upfront with stylish characters, slick humor, and charming animation (Wolfs eye/facial expressions never get old). From there, the story kept me guessing with clever plot developments, satisfying twists, and dynamic characters that were worth caring about.
Much like the Shrek movies, The Bad Guys knows how to balance satire and emotion. The meta-jokes and references made me smile while the story itself had me genuinely rooting for Wolf not to push the button at the midpoint and then to turn back and rescue Snake at the end. I loved the twists with Innocent Professor Gerbil being the baddie and Governor Fox Lady being a legendary thief. The story pulses with energy, and every member of the cast contributes in meaningful ways. Such a fantastic movie. Hope we get sequels.

Inviso: Its so weird to think that within the same one-year span, Dreamworks put out two separate anthropomorphic animal heist movies. And yet, because Im me, perhaps I rank this a little higher than it otherwise deserves. But I dont care, because this was a fun movie throughout. I enjoy heist films, and I enjoy the general feeling associated with having a large cast of distinct characters who all play a role in the overarching plot. Plus, the film itself feels like a loving send-up to classic, live-action heist movies. Youve got the non sequitur discussions between Mr. Wolf and Mr. Snake that feel like a loving homage to Quentin Tarantinos crime movie conversations from Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. Youve got the general heist planning, with everyone playing a role and the complications that the characters have to think their way out of, a la the Oceans franchise. Heck, they even use Clooney as a verb, putting a fine point right on the nose. Throw in Diane Foxington as a gorgeous furry icon (who, admittedly, couldve done with a bit more hair, since I tend to prefer my furries with hairstyles), and this was a great watch.

Suprak: *no writeup submitted*

Red: Oddly not the only movie on this list with an evil guinea pig. A fun heist movie of animals trying to sort of subvert their typical stereotypes. Falters a bit with some of the character turns not feeling completely natural, characters feeling a bit dickish to each other at times, tbh. But mostly just a fun movie and it was nice to see a more experimental animation style, taking a bit of the technique from spider-verse but not wholly being a carbon copy. With 3D animation we'd really been stuck with the "Disney proven safe" thing for awhile and Dreamworks of all studios moving away from that was quite surprising and refreshing.

Karo: When a heist goes wrong, the city's most notorious criminal gang must try and reform to avoid a lengthy jail sentence (or at least pretend to).
They really made an effort to shrug off the usual 'Dreamworks style' here and create something that is very unique and visually stunning that almost brings to mind Lupin the Third in its exaggerated character motions and I really like it.
The principal characters of the story (Wolf, Snake and Foxington) are among the best Dreamworks has ever created, but unfortunately the company has the tendency to fill their movies with side characters that are both useless and awful, and here it is no different. You'd think after hearing the phrase 'Awkwafina as a talking spider' things couldn't get any worse, but let me introduce you to Mr. Piranha. Piranha is this stereotypical 'crazy Mexican' character who is easily enraged, lacks all self control and shouts out random phrases in Spanish. He is also incredibly flatulent because of course he is.
One thing I found weird is like most of the main characters are anthropomorphic animals, but all the background mooks are human for some reason. Also there's a non-talking cat who they rescue from a tree. Professor Marmalade is a talking sapient creature, but all the other guinea pigs are just normal animals... who are experimented on en masse in an animal testing lab. Yikes.
It is confusing, and a little bit disturbing. It would have been much better to just make everyone talking animals like in Zootopia.
All in all it was an incredibly enjoyable experience that felt fresh in a way few modern CGI films do. There are nods to Tarantino, hot foxy ladies *rimshot*, and a level of character development you rarely see in these kinds of kids movies. It is the best Dreamworks movie since the original HTTYD, a distinction it held for all of a mere seven months because, well, you know.

Ermine: I had this film a few places higher up but I think it is starting to sour ever so slightly with me. Not that I don't still really enjoy it, but when I think about this film now, I just think about how I really enjoy Mr. Snake and then don't care about any of the other characters. Wolf is alright, a pretty decent and enjoyable character, but I can't say I really like any of the others.
The animation and art style are fantastic, that's another positive and I will say I LOVED the ending sequence where Mr. Snake reveals what actually ended up going down.
I think Mr. Snake and Mr. Wolf's relationship throughout the film is what lands this still fairly high for me. Without it, I don't think this film could really stand and walk.
Either way though, it's a fun, exciting, but somewhat predictable film.
Also, please stop casting Awkwafina in any roles, thank you! Thankfully she's not TOO offensive here.

Mythiot: *no writeup submitted*

Evillord: Besides 20 year old memories of the Hobbit, so decayed they were unrecognizable, this was the only movie on the list I had seen when I started. I gave it a shot when the ads were circulating because the characters look so charmingly smug on posters, especially Mr. Snake winding his way through his Hawaiian shirt. There are some cute scenes of these charismatic characters just interacting near the start, like the opening riff on Reservoir Dogs where the snake and wolf argue about birthdays or the car chase squad intro that follows, but it also has a farting piranha as one of the main characters. It starts to get tiresome as the story progresses and the superficial charm gives way to juvenile Dreamworks-brand comedy, a rote narrative about the crew breaking good with the obligatory midsection plot point where they have a fight for five minutes, and an incredibly predictable twist villain played by Moss from IT Crowd (though it is, probably unintentionally, hilarious to hear this obviously evil character's goodness described as "second only to that of Mother Theresa"). A big disappointment. The Sam Rockwell wolf is pretty hot though ngl.

Johnbobb: Movie starts out, some rude but friendly banter between conmen at a restaurant, pretty cool. They turn to reveal the rest of the building is terrified, not because they're criminals but because they're a wolf and a snake dressed up like people in a world of humans, legitimately funny (that later turned out to not be true). The movie goes into a "yep, this is just my crazy life" self-narration character introduction, and I couldn't help but groan. Then 5 minutes in we get our first (not last) giant fart joke, and that pretty much set the direction of the film. Some funny lines, some fun moments, and some great voice acting, but it's dragged down by a Minions-level sense of lazy humor. One nice thing I can say about it: animation has been doing a cool thing lately where it utilizes a combination of fluid and choppy animation to give a comic-y snap to action scenes. You see a lot of it in Mitchells vs. the Machines, and there's a couple moments of it here

Outlier:

Inviso: 225
Plasma: 195
Evillord: 172
Johnbobb: 170
Ermine: 158
Suprak: 158
Mythiot: 147
Red: 124
Karo: 112

Absolute boo, Johnbobb and the other art snobs. :P

Still predicting Marona next.

1. ???
2. ???
3. ???
4. The House
5. The Sea Beast
6. The Bad Guys
7. DC League of Super-Pets
8. Turning Red
9. Ron's Gone Wrong
10. Sing 2
11. The Willoughbys
12. The Angry Birds Movie
13. Lightyear
14. Vivo
15. Strange World

Well my top three are in the top four, but I don't feel great about it because I definitely overrated one and underrated 6/15

The Bad Guys wasn't something I thought I'd end up enjoying as immensely as I did, but I really love the art style for the animal cast at least. The humans all look weird and I don't gel with the way their teeth and lips move whenever they're talking. Like I get it's an aesthetic, but it's just not for me. On that note did anyone else find it weird that humans and animals just kind of... coexist and understand each other in this world? Also why are some animals sentient while others are just normal kittens or guinea pigs? Someone explain the damned rules of this world! I understand The Bad Guys is based on an existing property, but they already took some creative liberties with Ms. Tarantula so that they could get the overused AWKWAFINA to voice her so imo they should've just taken more creative liberties and went full Zootopia. No humans. All sentient animals. Way less confusion.

As for the plot it is... very obviously geared towards younger children so I can't on it TOO much for having the most obvious "twist" villain since King Candy, and the most predictable double crossing of the real villain since I guess Darth Vader? Things I could have seen coming from ten miles away aside it was a fun action-comedy with a lot of lovable memorable characters and Mr. Piranha is there too. Also I must say, as someone who identifies as a furry, but not one of... those kind of furries, I do not normally go for such things, but Mr. Wolf and Diane Foxington are magnetic to watch. Especially that dance scene. Like... oh my. There really wasn't any need to make their designs that appealing, but I'm glad they did. I just hope this movie doesn't awaken something in an entire new generation of children la Lola Bunny.

JB's write up isn't even all that negative, compared to his placement. Like, that writeup looks like it should be a 15-20 placement, but ends up being 28th. :thinking:

Also, I'll just go ahead and say it. Please god let Pinnochio or Encanto drop next. I wanna have two of my top 3 in the top 3! It'd be a neat thing, y'know?

So! Just let it happen pls! :)

Remind me and I can speak more on it after work but the repeated, exhaustingly bad fart scenes definitely knocked it down like 20 places singlehandedly

Predicting Pinocchio next

I predict Pinocchio

Johnbobb posted...

Remind me and I can speak more on it after work but the repeated, exhaustingly bad fart scenes definitely knocked it down like 20 places singlehandedly

See, the fart scenes were so inconsequential to me, I can't imagine knocking an otherwise solid heist homage just because of that.

Some people hate fart scenes (I agree they suck but not enough to drop a movie like 20 spots lol)

And some people hate breast squeezing scenes + killing baby animals for literally no reason!

Guess you gotta take your pick sometimes, y'know?

Realistically, I think without them it Lands in the 15-20 range like Ermine suggested. Some very good animation at times but the story just felt very meh. The humor though was like Angry Birds level

I'm in same spot as Vis. Two very high movies and two very not high movies.

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But I guess with all my hints, it's pretty easy to place together my placements for the remaining movies lol

I mean, if you know me at all, my ranking should be relatively obvious aside from the order of the top two.

Pinocchio SHOULD be dropping next, JB's over trashing of Bad Guys was enough to put Pinnochio just over it, so well done with that JB, I guess.

And if it doesn't, I'll be sad because I'm very curious to see who won the Marona vs Encanto battle as their scores would be separated by 3 points.

Predicting Encanto STILL

PAYOUTS! Mythiot, Exdeath, and Johnbobb (you bastard) all make money off The Bad Guys!

Vegas Odds on #4:

+600 Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio (2022)
+700 Encanto (2021)
+900 Marona's Fantastic Tale (2020)
+2000 Puss in Boots: The Last Wish (2022)

Vegas Leaderboard:
1) Johnbobb $7500 (The Angry Birds Movie 700, The Hobbit 1000, Yellow Submarine 750, Sing 2 650, Vivo 500, Turning Red 850, Apollo 10 1/2: A Space Age Childhood 850, Flee 850, The Little Prince 850, The Bad Guys 500)
2) Red $4500 (Ne Zha 2000, Yellow Submarine 750, Waltz with Bashir 1250, Ron's Gone Wrong 500)
3) Evillordexdeath $4150 (The Angry Birds Movie 700, Strange World 600, My Father's Dragon 800, Birdboy: The Forgotten Children 700, The Little Prince 850, The Bad Guys 500)
4) Inviso $3350 (Ne Zha 2000, Ron's Gone Wrong 500, Apollo 10 1/2: A Space Age Childhood 850)
5) Mythiot $2500 (Ne Zha 2000, The Bad Guys 500)
6) Ermine $800 (The Big Bad Fox & Other Tales 800)
6) GenesisSaga $500 (Ron's Gone Wrong 500)

The House Won On:

• Sita Sings the Blues (+500)
• Lightyear (+1000)
• The Willoughbys (+850)
• DC League of Super-Pets (+2000)
• Early Man (+1000)
• The Girl Without Hands (+850)
• The Sea Beast (+2000)
• Wendell and Wild (+650)
• The House (+600)

Screw it, I wanna make some money. Gonna predict Pinocchio.

Inviso posted...

Tag. C'mon let's keep not eliminating my top three!

It's not funny that The Bad Guys got tanked by one ranker essentially, but it's pretty funny that Inviso's #3 dropped right after this post. I once again feel a little bit guilty because I could've helped it place higher. I am a shame

At this point, given the rankers involved, my prediction for the rest of the list is probably:

4: Pinocchio
3: Encanto
2: Marona
1: Puss in Boots

I would very much enjoy that.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/5/AAblU3AAEwop.jpg

I was oh so close to predicting the top 5 accurately. And The House literally got 6th. I didn't expect so many others to enjoy Marona as well so I'm glad at that surprise.

Dunno what Marona even is, but apparently I need to look into it!

GenesisSaga posted...

It's not funny that The Bad Guys got tanked by one ranker essentially,

I wasn't the only person to have it bottom 10!

Also I figured Ermine/Red/Vis would have Bad Guys high but didn't think I'd have to explain why I didn't go for the silly talking farting animal heist to the rest of you! I mean we already watched The Nut Job!

Bad Guys is NOT the friggin' Nut Job.

I have my 2, 4, 5 and 13 left

Inviso posted...

Bad Guys is NOT the friggin' Nut Job.

Bad Guys is better than the Nut Job but that's not a high bar

I would not have been surprised if an animated Psy showed up and everyone danced Gangnam Style though

I'm just saying, you cannot compare a movie with a 13%/43% rating (The Nut Job) to a movie with an 88%/93% rating (The Bad Guys) just because they're both heists cartoons.

Also, what's with everyone hating on Awkwafina? She's fine in this, and in most things.

GenesisSaga posted...

Dunno what Marona even is, but apparently I need to look into it!

Marona is like 80 minutes of torture in movie form.

Also still pick Pinocchio.

And if DreamWorks wants to just keep sticking wolves in their movies I'm not going to complain. Though there is a clear winner in that regard.

Inviso posted...

Also, what's with everyone hating on Awkwafina? She's fine in this, and in most things.

Yeah, I didn't even realize she voiced Tarantula until I read the write-ups today.

Yeah The Bad Guys didn't get tanked by one vote any worse than most other films in the top 10 so far. It does have a funny spread. It's basically a polarizing film where the positive votes outnumber the negative ones in this group. I'm impressed it managed to land this high with 3 art snobs voting, once you remove those votes it's probably like second place or something.

I wasn't sure where it would land but I'm kind of surprised, I genuinely really wanted to like the movie, went into it expecting to like it, and came out thinking it was awful. 29th seems harsh on a list with DC Super Pets and Sing 2, but I really feel it's a much more deserved placement than 1st or 3rd for a film that felt like Dreamworks falling back on all its worst tendencies, that I would compare to Sharktale or Shrek 3 before How to Train Your Dragon or Shrek 2. I wish I could see the version of this movie with clever plot developments, funny jokes, or good character development. The character designs deserve that, but the movie I watched was riddled with cringe, clichs, and stock personalities.

Zigzagoon posted...

Some people hate fart scenes (I agree they suck but not enough to drop a movie like 20 spots lol)

And some people hate breast squeezing scenes + killing baby animals for literally no reason!

Guess you gotta take your pick sometimes, y'know?

I don't think they're really comparable! I brought up the breast milk scenes in Girl Without Hands because they're both scenes that involve bodily functions that someone could feel sensitive about, and that's perfectly valid, but The Girl Without Hands doesn't dwell on breast milk to nearly the same extent that The Bad Guys does on farts. The GWH scenes don't warrant criticism imo outside of just "I don't like seeing breast milk", but to me, the problem with the farting scenes in The Bad Guys isn't that they involve farting (anything can be a vehicle for good comedy or storytelling with the right execution), it's that they are witless and way, way too long. A good joke requires timing and structure, but these scenes barely get any further than "a fart happens" in their joke-telling, or better yet "a really big fart happens", which is just using exaggeration in place of cleverness. It's the kind of thing Family Guy or a bad Youtube animator would do in place of telling a real joke. And I don't buy for a second that the movie being for kids justifies this. Kids deserve good movies too! There's no excuse for this shit in a world where Gravity Falls, Avatar, The Lion King, and even all the infinitely better kids movies on this list like Puss in Boots or Big Bad Fox that don't have to rely on lazy comedy like this exist.

Pinocchio is next.

Inviso posted...

Also, what's with everyone hating on Awkwafina? She's fine in this, and in most things.

I don't hate her, but she's way too ubiquitous in the voice acting industry considering she can literally only do one voice: AWKWAFINA's. I guess if you want her to play an intentionally polarizing character like Ms. Tarantula (who the general public feared and hated at the film's beginning) then her grating, gravelly voice works, or if you need her to rap (even though you really didn't) then you can have her play a character like Scuttle (who really didn't need to rap, but the Scuttlebutt was fun I guess?). There is really no reason whatsoever for her to have voiced Sisu though, the last surviving member of a revered species that sacrificed itself to give humanity one last chance to unify and save themselves. Yes, her only magically enhanced power is kind of dumb, but the character is meant to be taken somewhat seriously despite ImMaReAlLyStRoNgSwImMeR. So to have AWKWAFINA of all people voice this character is a bit of a slap in the face of other Asian voice actresses and just reeks of Hollywood interference. Gotta get them big name celebrities to voice this larger than life character to put butts in seats! See how well that worked out for them? Well there were more issues with Raya and the Last Dragon than AWKWAFINA alone, but I'm sure her superfluous inclusion there didn't help.

4. Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio

Johnbobb: 2
Mythiot: 2
Suprak: 2
Plasma: 3
Karo: 11
Evillord: 11
Inviso: 15
Red: 18
Ermine: 19

Total: 83

Johnbobb: It's really weird that it took this long for del Toro's first animated movie, given that he's shown a deep love for bizarre, complicated, practically-made creatures in almost all of his other projects. That dark and creative design from Hellboy, Cronos, Shape of Water and Pan's Labyrinth is all on display here. I feel like every time I watch a new stop-motion movie it blows me away in a completely new way (except Nick Park's work, which is comparably not even in the same playing field). Everything is gorgeous and intricate, but at its core it's also just a funny and sad and thrilling movie.

Mythiot: *no writeup submitted*

Suprak: *no writeup submitted*

Plasma: Ive never been a big Guillermo del Toro guy. Something about his style always misses the mark with me. His ideas are cool, but he tends to play things safe rather than send the plot in appropriately wild directions. While watching Pans Labyrinth or reading his book The Strain, I couldnt stop thinking, Man, this would be amazing if hed just let it rip.
That said, I enjoyed the hell out of his Pinocchio movie. Though it does play things safe at times (Crickets plot armor and Geppettos mid-story absence come to mind), I loved this dark and wacky reimagining. The emotional prologue did a great job establishing the WWII Italy setting, which distinguished this version from other Pinocchio tales. Then you have Pinocchio himself as this creepy-yet-endearing puppet whose nose grows like a literal tree branch when he lies (bonus points for it NOT growing during the hilarious scene when he roasts Mussolini). Also loved the Persona-esque afterlife sequences with the sister-creatures that oversee life and death. Those scenes added surrealism and intrigue without feeling tacked-on.
Ill admit that the second half of the movie feels rushed and contrived. Most notably, the ringmasters cliff-side death scene was a blatant excuse to get Pinocchio inside the whale, which was the most inorganic plot development in the entire story. The other issue I had was with Pinocchios climactic choice. He gave up his immortality to save Geppettos life, but the choice felt too obvious and easy. Theres no dilemma, no real stakes, nothing really to lose, and the drama suffers because of it.
But overall, this was a surprising and engaging remake.

Karo: First off I would like to begin by stating just how much I despise the story of Pinocchio, both the original book and the Disney adaptation. It is a tale of conformity and moralfuckery where having fun is evil and everyone should be an empty headed cretin who blindly follows the words of a talking cricket instead of thinking for themselves.
However, this version does some things differently that really change it up and challenge the oppressive moralism that usually plagues it. First off, the biggest change is that the setting is now 1940s Fascist Italy. Yes, a story where the moral is 'do what you are told because it is the right thing' now takes place in an era where that line of thought led to some famously horrible results. Also the plot arc I hate more than anything (pleasure island) mercifully is completely excised from the story.
It is a movie more mature and thoughtful than your standard American animated production, and despite the subject matter being adapted to all hell already it manages to be the definitive version of the wooden almost-boy.

Evillord: Of the three unrelated Pinocchio movies that came out in 2022, this is generally considered to be the only acceptable one, as hilarious as certain clips from the Pauly Shore version with the worldussy (which was actually a dub of a Russian film,) may be. It's beautifully stop-motion animated, apart from the water effects which I did not like the look of, and I appreciate the creepy aspects of the aesthetic, like the film's kaiju-esque take on the Giant Dogfish and especially Pinocchio himself. The scene where he first comes to life, moving in jilted wooden contortions and throwing knives around, so innocent it's threatening, is a lot of fun.
While Pinocchio is among the most adapted stories in the world, I get the impression that most versions are inspired by Disney's film rather than the 19th Century Italian book. While Del Toro adds some elements inspired by Collodi, like the rabbits playing Poker in Hell, he also repeats the same crucial bullet points Disney used in their movie and no others, while adding a storyline about Pinocchio being a rebel in Fascist Italy whose necessity to the broader narrative I don't really understand, even though I liked the bonding scenes with the Fascist guy's son a lot. I was also left kind of scratching my head about how the story gave Pinocchio the curse of immortality, but then undid it, but then maybe gave it back again? It felt like something that was building up to be explored in more depth than it ultimately was. Then again, a retelling of Pinocchio focused on the idea of immortality as a curse is sickeningly reminiscent of Spielberg's repugnant A.I.: Artificial Intelligence, so maybe it dodged a bullet. I felt some parts where rather unsubtle - there's a 10 minute intro with Ghepetto's son (who the film warns you will die,) where you're just waiting for some hilarious tragedy to end their picturesque life together, and then Ghepetto becomes a drunk who constantly cries and swears about his loss but instantly sobers up when Pinocchio comes to life. There are also two back-to-back scenes of a villain ranting about how evil he is while his henchman who Pinocchio befriended gradually builds up the courage to stop listening to the bad guy's abuse and then kill him, which made me feel like the movie was working from a formula. Still, for all that grousing it's a really good-looking movie that brings some of the weird back to this story after Disney sanitized it, and has some nice emotional scenes.

Inviso: So, I can totally admit that this was a well-crafted movie, and its certainly better than the Disney version of the story. However, I just have never been the biggest fan of the Pinocchio story in general, so as a result, this movie didnt do as much for me as perhaps it should have. That being said, I think the expansion of Pinocchios time with the carnival was fun. Even though Honest John was the only good character in the Disney version, having a Christoph Waltz version of the character was much appreciated, because at least he feels like he got a proper villain ending (as did the fascist Coachman equivalent). Also, the island storyline feels like it has much more value to the plot, rather than being a random non-sequitur. I just found like the film flowed really well, and I think Pinocchio works better as a character this time. Yes, hes an annoying brat at the start, but he grows and evolves in a solid way, and its actually satisfying character development. I just wish I cared more about the basic story.

Red: Okay lets start by getting the ugly out of the way. Making your entire cast loyal italian fascists does not make them particularly endearing characters. Even Pinocchio making fun of Mussolini is done more out of childish rebellion than some sort of moral code. You want to set your cast and location, fine, I'll take it, but I am going to continually look down on them because you put that in the back of my mind. Pinocchio spends a good chunk of this movie being absolutely insufferable. Someone should have killed him with fire immediately, as initial reaction should have been that hes a horrible wooden hellspawn to be killed at all costs. But then he cant die. And we're given a plot and some rules about how his deaths will take longer and he'll miss more of the world. Don't worry, we're never going to see this happen because the rules are broken immediately before ever showing Pinocchio any real impact. The only bit of plot that could have really made this a more unique story and its thrown out to rush us to the pretty standard Pinocchio ending that we all already know.

Ermine: Hoo boy this is going to be an outlier for sure considering how much praise I've seen this get.
I'll be honest, I hate Pinocchio as a character and this film does nothing to change that. Any and all points this movie gets from me is how beautiful it looks. Really, it is incredibly pleasing to the eye, but that's as far as it gets to me. Ooooh it's a darker take on Pinocchio...! I don't care.
I think Sebastian Cricket is entirely underutilized. He had such a cool design and character and it's completely wasted because he's with Pinocchio for all of like 5 minutes. The rest of the film he's with Geppetto. And he's constantly injured and smacked around a bunch for gags that aren't funny. In a movie with the tone it's going for, it felt completely out of place and I felt the character was pointless, despite me wanting him to be much much more.
Then we've got Pinocchio himself and he's just a plain jerk.
This is fine and all... but then you have a really cool song fairly early on in the film where he's singing about his Pappa (Geppetto)... except neither of the two have had any solid emotional attachment to the two beforehand so the emotion that the song could have brought was completely lost. The movie never showed us at all a real solid connection between the two that would have brought Pinocchio to give us such a song. I was like, whoa, this song sounds really cool, cute and good, but it was not deserved in the slightest.
Then we get the added war plot... and yeah, I didn't care one bit about this. Complete throwaway additions that did nothing for the movie, and did nothing for me.
And then the ending is fairly the same. Go into the whale, do stuff and get out of the whale, woo.
I think the aspect of Pinocchio dying and meeting death and learning could have been an interesting plot point. But it's never really utilized all the well. It felt like it was really more used just to showcase a cool area with interesting and weird-looking characters, rather than actually have a point.
Maybe I just don't like Pinocchio. But yeah, this film didn't do it for me. Please end this era of Pinocchios because I'm just done with it.

Outlier:

Inviso: 236
Plasma: 196
Evillord: 179
Ermine: 173
Johnbobb: 172
Suprak: 160
Mythiot: 148
Red: 138
Karo: 119

Hell yeah, let's go Marona!

Final 3 is saved!

Aw man. I really, thoroughly enjoyed Pinocchio. I thought it was just so well made and it made me enjoy a story I've seen twenty other times and hated each of those twenty times.

Got my 1, my 17, and my 20 left.

C'MON RANKERS DO THE RIGHT THING

I'm positive my 20 isn't winning based on what some other people have said. My 17 could still pull it off though! I'm hoping for 1 but I'd be "fine" with 17. I just checked and I had Get Out at 17 so I would at least be consistent!

Final 3 is ruined! /jk, jk

1. ???
2. Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
3. ???
4. The House
5. The Sea Beast
6. The Bad Guys
7. DC League of Super-Pets
8. Turning Red
9. Ron's Gone Wrong
10. Sing 2
11. The Willoughbys
12. The Angry Birds Movie
13. Lightyear
14. Vivo
15. Strange World

I most definitely overrated #3

And I'm going to guess Encanto next as always. Gee, I wonder what my #1 could be...?

Anyway I don't know who decided 2022 would be Year of Pinocchio adaptations, but literally only one of the three is any good. By any good, I mean it's utterly fantastic. Guillermo Del Toro, plus stop motion animation plus fantasy with hints of existential horror just STOP lord have mercy, I'm about to bust! It's like this film was made for me, but as seemingly perfect as it was there was one movie in this set (that I actually watched) I simply enjoyed more.

Yeah, I knew it was coming but ugh

One top tier, one really good, and one mostly really good left

I'll guess Marona drops now though

Guessing Encanto for Vegas next, but hoping Marona.

The whole death plot with Pinocchio really pissed me off. It was something setup that felt like it could really give the story something unique and in the end it was...just completely pointless.

1) ???
2) ???
3) ???
4) The Bad Guys (2022)
5) The Big Bad Fox & Other Tales (2017)
6) The House (2022)
7) Flee (2021)
8) Vivo (2021)
9) DC League of Super-Pets (2022)
10) My Father's Dragon (2022)
11) Turning Red (2022)
12) Apollo 10 1/2: A Space Age Childhood (2022)
13) Sing 2 (2021)
14) The Sea Beast (2022)
15) Ron's Gone Wrong (2021)
16) Early Man (2018)
17) Wendell and Wild (2022)
18) Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio (2022)
19) The Little Prince (2015)
20) The Girl Without Hands (2016)
21) Sita Sings the Blues (2008)
22) Lightyear (2022)
23) Birdboy: The Forgotten Children (2017)
24) The Willoughbys (2020)
25) Ne Zha (2019)
26) Strange World (2022)
27) The Hobbit (1977)
28) The Angry Birds Movie
29) Yellow Submarine (1968)
30) Waltz with Bashir (2008)

Guessing Marona next.

Wow, top 3 is your top 3.

:x

Out of all the movies on this list that I consider good, Pinocchio is the one I feel most indifferent toward. Thinking back on that whole intro sequence kinda makes me cringe. Maybe I should've dropped it a few spots, to 15th or something.

I will be optimistic and predict Encanto next.