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they were kinda, creationist, leaning?

Ive encountered some very daft people, but never anybody of that caliber.

I've never seen a real life Creationist.

I think Satan invented them to cause confusion in the hearts of men.

ai123 posted...

I've never seen a real life Creationist.

I think Satan invented them to cause confusion in the hearts of men.

you have never met a real life creationist?

Were they creationist-leaning though? The theme seems to be that creation isnt a toy, not that only God is allowed to do it. The other theme is that capitalist cost cutting is a bad idea.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Were they creationist-leaning though? The theme seems to be that creation isnt a toy, not that only God is allowed to do it. The other theme is that capitalist cost cutting is a bad idea.

no i meant like the viewers of the movie were very religious, ....etc....Were you thinking something else?

KazGT6 posted...

you have never met a real life creationist?

I have never met one in real life.

Seen them on the internet and TV, that's all.

ai123 posted...

I have never met one in real life.

Seen them on the internet and TV, that's all.

uh....you don' live in the south, in the u.s. do you?

KazGT6 posted...

no i meant like the viewers of the movie were very religious, ....etc....Were you thinking something else?

OHHHH I misunderstood, sorry. That sentence can be interpreted as they referring to either the viewers or the movies, and I picked wrong.

KazGT6 posted...

uh....you don' live in the south, in the u.s. do you?

No, I live in the UK.

There is a tiny number of Creationists, but they're on the fringe, even of their own religions, and you never hear a peep out of them.

ai123 posted...

No, I live in the UK.

There is a tiny number of Creationists, but they're on the fringe, even of their own religions, and you never hear a peep out of them.

It also isnt something many people talk about in public without a specific trigger. Ive spoken with nearly 20 different people today, most of them regular acquaintances, and I dont know what any of their religious leanings are. It just doesnt come up.

ai123 posted...

No, I live in the UK.

There is a tiny number of Creationists, but they're on the fringe, even of their own religions, and you never hear a peep out of them.

oh, i see. So you don't have like politicians there , ever pushing like religious stuff and and anti abortion stuff, like sometimes you see in the u.s.?

KazGT6 posted...

oh, i see. So you don't have like politicians there , ever pushing like religious stuff and and anti abortion stuff, like sometimes you see in the u.s.?

It's a little bit complicated, because of some of the traditions and ceremonial functions: the Head of State is also head of the Church of England, and Bishops sit in the House of Lords.

But the UK is in practice a very secular country. People are a bit suspicious of those who are overtly religious. Generally, religion is kept out of politics.

Famously, Tony Blair had to downplay his religious beliefs, because they would not play well with the public. We've had atheist Prime Ministers (James Callaghan, Winston Churchill), agnostic Prime Ministers (Attlee), and Boris Johnson is on record as saying he is not a 'serious Christian'. Basically, not believing in God would have no effect on a political career in the UK.

The abortion debate is considered settled. No mainstream politician wants it revisited.

oh, tony blair was very religious , did now know that. how about margaret thatcher, among all the uk prime minsters you mentioned

KazGT6 posted...

oh, tony blair was very religious , did now know that. how about margaret thatcher, among all the uk prime minsters you mentioned

Blair got told by his press guy/spin doctor Alastair Campbell, that 'we don't do religion'.

Thatcher was Christian. Sometimes she would mention her 'values' etc. In speeches, but not all the time. Being openly religious is not appreciated by the public, and is likely to be mocked, more than anything else.

oh, so is the uk one of the least religious countries in europe or maybe the world? have you read anything on this?

KazGT6 posted...

oh, so is the uk one of the least religious countries in europe or maybe the world? have you read anything on this?

Less than half say they are religious, but even that statistic is misleading, as Church of England is like a 'default' religion, and people who never even think about it will just say they are C of E. Less than 1% of the population go to church (it's around 30% in the US). And a third of those are over 70.

The presence of Christianity in daily life and culture is negligible and diminishing.

ai123 posted...

It's a little bit complicated, because of some of the traditions and ceremonial functions: the Head of State is also head of the Church of England, and Bishops sit in the House of Lords.

But the UK is in practice a very secular country. People are a bit suspicious of those who are overtly religious. Generally, religion is kept out of politics.

Famously, Tony Blair had to downplay his religious beliefs, because they would not play well with the public. We've had atheist Prime Ministers (James Callaghan, Winston Churchill), agnostic Prime Ministers (Attlee), and Boris Johnson is on record as saying he is not a 'serious Christian'. Basically, not believing in God would have no effect on a political career in the UK.

The abortion debate is considered settled. No mainstream politician wants it revisited.

Wow a lot I didn't know (Churchill being atheist) - it's interesting that V for Vendetta (which I know is fiction) heavily emphasized Christianity as one of the pillars of the autocratic government

Ruvan22 posted...

Wow a lot I didn't know (Churchill being atheist) - it's interesting that V for Vendetta (which I know is fiction) heavily emphasized Christianity as one of the pillars of the autocratic government

V for vendetta was very disparaging of Christianity?

ai123 posted...

Boris Johnson is on record as saying he is not a 'serious Christian'.

To be fair, Boris was never really a serious anything. Well...Except arsehole, maybe.

ai123 posted...

There is a tiny number of Creationists, but they're on the fringe, even of their own religions, and you never hear a peep out of them.

My first sis-in-law was a creationist; I remember she persuaded us to read the book Bone of Contention: Is Evolution True? by Sylvia Baker. Her father was a Baptist minister, and she'd grown up in Nigeria; but then so had wifey, who poured, um, some considerable scorn on my sis-in-law's beliefs. Somewhat incongruously, my sis-in-law was studying at uni for a career in the sciences...

KazGT6 posted...

V for vendetta was very disparaging of Christianity?

The organizations at least - but sorry my point was that the movie illustrated religion/Christianity being popular enough in the UK for the autocratic government to use it as a tool build power

I've never met a creationist, mostly just baptists