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Roachmeat
08/09/23 3:14:09 PM
#51:


boxoto posted...
there are too many psychos out there, with dangerous weapons, who mean to harm others, and unfortunately, many politicians continue to sit on their thumbs.

Except underneath those thumbs are stacks of money (and lets be honest, their job security).

The minute any Gop congressmen has a change of heart about guns they would likely be voted out and replaced at the drop of a hat, if not threatened with violence by their own constituents.
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boxoto
08/09/23 3:17:51 PM
#52:


unfortunately true...

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hereforemnant
08/09/23 3:21:26 PM
#53:


He went for an outright execution against a little girl wtf. Every time you see something fucked up, there's always some way for humanity to one up it...

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Ruvan22
08/09/23 3:47:11 PM
#54:


Questionmarktarius posted...


The chances that gun was legally acquired, is likely going to be somewhere around zero. At the very least, I suspect shenanigans.

Why do you say that?
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 3:49:06 PM
#55:


Ruvan22 posted...
Why do you say that?
see post 32
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Kradek
08/09/23 3:56:48 PM
#56:


Questionmarktarius posted...
see post 32

You literally stereotyped him as a "gunshow loophole instance" based off a mugshot.

That is not logical, you're basically saying you can determine one's legal status for gun ownership based off a mugshot, which obviously you see the rabbit hole that leads one down.

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 3:59:01 PM
#57:


Kradek posted...
That is not logical, you're basically saying you can determine one's legal status for gun ownership based off a mugshot, which obviously you see the rabbit hole that leads one down.
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well, shit.
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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:03:41 PM
#58:


Questionmarktarius posted...
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well, shit.

were you just in a mad dash to start screeching how there shouldnt be gun control because gun control wouldnt help or what
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 4:05:00 PM
#59:


Ferroseed posted...
were you just in a mad dash to start screeching how there shouldnt be gun control because gun control wouldnt help or what
see the second part of post 32.
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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:08:53 PM
#60:


Questionmarktarius posted...
see the second part of post 32.

that doesnt answer the question and in fact seems to double down on your argument that this "must have been an illegal gun scenario"
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 4:10:38 PM
#61:


Ferroseed posted...
that doesnt answer the question and in fact seems to double down on your argument that this "must have been an illegal gun scenario"
Would the circumstances have changed much if Asshole McPsycho had a legally-obtained sledgehammer?
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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:13:27 PM
#62:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Would the circumstances have changed much if Asshole McPsycho had a legally-obtained sledgehammer?

what argument are you even trying to make exactly
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Devilanse333
08/09/23 4:14:58 PM
#63:


wackyteen posted...


If I've tackled the mother fucker that shot my child dead, he ain't going to fucking jail. I'm going to fucking jail.

I wouldnt vote to convict you if I was on that jury.

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 4:15:02 PM
#64:


Ferroseed posted...
what argument are you even trying to make exactly
Assholes going to asshole. Taking away the means to do so doesn't prevent that.
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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:17:42 PM
#65:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Assholes going to asshole. Taking away the means to do so doesn't prevent that.

so then yes i was right and you were just running to screech against gun control

got it. thanks for confirming that for me.
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Ruvan22
08/09/23 4:21:55 PM
#66:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Assholes going to asshole. Taking away the means to do so doesn't prevent that.

Okay to make sure I'm clear on your position - you feel an asshole will do the same damage with a sledgehammer as they would with a gun? And this is why you believed he was "forbidden from buying a gun"?
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 4:23:20 PM
#67:


Ferroseed posted...
so then yes i was right and you were just running to screech against gun control

got it. thanks for confirming that for me.
k, fine.

It's going to be logistically impossible in a country where there's more guns than people.
Best you can can do is expand the hell out of NICS, make it public, and impose penalties on someone dumb enough to give a gun to someone who shouldn't have one.
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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:23:27 PM
#68:


Ruvan22 posted...
Okay to make sure I'm clear on your position - you feel an asshole will do the same damage with a sledgehammer as they would with a gun? And this is why you believed he was "forbidden from buying a gun"?

no. hes trying to immediately argue "his gun was clearly illegal" because hes pro-gun and wants to argue more gun control wouldnt have helped at all. thats why he brought up the sledgehammer argument, which is dumb for reasons i dont even need to explain.
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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:25:20 PM
#69:


Questionmarktarius posted...
k, fine.

It's going to be logistically impossible in a country where there's more guns than people.
Best you can can do is expand the hell out of NICS, make it public, and impose penalties on someone dumb enough to give a gun to someone who shouldn't have one.

imagine running into a topic about a 9 year old being shot dead, and your immediate instinct is to start screeching "dont you even dare talk gun control, fuck you and your gun control"
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NoxObscuras
08/09/23 4:25:38 PM
#70:


Dude what the actual fuck. From the description, he just flat out executed an innocent 9 year old. Hope they lock him up for life

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SgtBash
08/09/23 4:28:52 PM
#71:


I'm only asking here, is Chicago a death penalty state?

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Priere
08/09/23 4:29:48 PM
#72:


SgtBash posted...
I'm only asking here, is Chicago a death penalty state?
Sadly no it isnt

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FlyEaglesFly24
08/09/23 4:30:13 PM
#73:


Questionmarktarius posted...
I have no idea if the "and now some statistics that are barely relevant to the article" is an agenda, or just filler, or both.

Its a tip of the cap to the gun lobby by admitting that even though fifty thousand people die a year to guns, half are by suicide. Apparently the NRA thinks that fact should make people feel better, even after a nine year olds life was cut short by yet another crazy nut job with a gun.

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garan
08/09/23 4:30:34 PM
#74:


Shit like this is why I'm pro death penalty. That fucking scumbag doesn't deserve to live and the world will be better without him in it.
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 4:36:32 PM
#75:


Ferroseed posted...
imagine running into a topic about a 9 year old being shot dead, and your immediate instinct is to start screeching "dont you even dare talk gun control, fuck you and your gun control"
Alright, talk about gun control.
What sort of gun control will prevent this from happening again? Would it be feasible?
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GranAures
08/09/23 4:37:08 PM
#76:


The shooter coming out with a sledgehammer would be a very different situation as one can not just point a hammer at somebody and kill them, he would have needed to run after the girl which would have given the father time to actually react and intercept him.

So yeah, girl would probably still be alive if it was a sledgehammer. Or a knife. Or any other melee implement that people try to deflect to.

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Ferroseed
08/09/23 4:38:46 PM
#77:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Alright, talk about gun control.
What sort of gun control will prevent this from happening again? Would it be feasible?

oh im sure people would be happy to talk gun control but not with somebody who has already proven to be a bad faith actor
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Ruvan22
08/09/23 5:31:46 PM
#78:


Questionmarktarius posted...
k, fine.

It's going to be logistically impossible in a country where there's more guns than people.
Best you can can do is expand the hell out of NICS, make it public, and impose penalties on someone dumb enough to give a gun to someone who shouldn't have one.

Questionmarktarius posted...
Alright, talk about gun control.
What sort of gun control will prevent this from happening again? Would it be feasible?

You *just* mentioned expanding NICS in your previous post - it is feasible and could help prevent this from happening again. Decreasing loopholes for purchases (gun shows etc) is also feasible and could prevent this from happening again. Age requirements (Uvalde shooter being able to buy on the day of his 18th birthday) etc...

I'm still lost on how you decided he had the gun illegally based off a mugshot
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 5:34:22 PM
#79:


Ruvan22 posted...
I'm still lost on how you decided he had the gun illegally based off a mugshot
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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 5:34:22 PM
#80:


GranAures posted...
The shooter coming out with a sledgehammer would be a very different situation as one can not just point a hammer at somebody and kill them, he would have needed to run after the girl which would have given the father time to actually react and intercept him.

So yeah, girl would probably still be alive if it was a sledgehammer. Or a knife. Or any other melee implement that people try to deflect to.
Also even if he did hit her with a sledgehammer she would have had a much better chance of surviving.

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bigtiggie23
08/09/23 5:36:33 PM
#81:


Priere posted...
Sadly no it isnt
Don't worry one of the other inmates will change that for him.

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StealThisSheen
08/09/23 5:36:53 PM
#82:


Ruvan22 posted...
I'm still lost on how you decided he had the gun illegally based off a mugshot

It appears he just wanted to push his pro gun narrative, and it wasn't actually based on anything logical.

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flussence
08/09/23 6:32:46 PM
#83:


jesus fucking christ

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TheHorus
08/10/23 8:44:07 PM
#84:


AceMos posted...
this guy wont last long in prison

Tyranthraxus posted...
Yeah. People sometimes think it only happens to pedos but if you hurt women / children in any way for any reason you're gonna not have a good time in prison.

GranAures posted...
Yeah, I expect somebody will ask how he got the metal scar and he won't be able to help himself. Then a lot of folks will take issue and he will have very few friends.

GranAures posted...
Yeah, I expect somebody will ask how he got the metal scar and he won't be able to help himself. Then a lot of folks will take issue and he will have very few friends.
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EDF-5
08/10/23 9:02:17 PM
#85:


That picture of him shows why
he wants to shoot someone
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CE_gonna_CE
08/10/23 9:47:36 PM
#86:


So yeah, IL doesnt have the death penalty so life in prison will do.

But really, this fucker needs to be put down.

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ultimate_reaver
08/14/23 7:23:52 AM
#88:


im shocked the guy is even still alive. i feel like if i had my hands on a guy who shot any of my family members let alone a fucking nine year old daughter that i would be doing everything in my power to turn him into a red smear on the pavement

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tripleh213
08/14/23 7:28:17 AM
#89:


Rip that kid

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FolkenRawr
08/14/23 7:57:11 AM
#90:


Absolutely worth pointing out if it hasn't been said - this happened in Portage Park. A pretty nice, low crime neighborhood on the Northside. This isn't the 'west side' or Englewood or whatever neighborhood is talked about as being ultra crime ridden when people talk about gun violence in Chicago.

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Alucard188
08/17/23 9:27:59 PM
#93:


What the fuck did a 9-year-old girl do that cause you to murder her in cold blood? Good fucking god, US.

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wackyteen
08/17/23 11:40:38 PM
#94:


Alucard188 posted...
What the fuck did a 9-year-old girl do that cause you to murder her in cold blood? Good fucking god, US.

"She was being noisy" apparently, since he had complained about kids making noise in the past.

Y'know, god forbid kids be kids

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Ferroseed
08/17/23 11:43:09 PM
#95:


FolkenRawr posted...
Absolutely worth pointing out if it hasn't been said - this happened in Portage Park. A pretty nice, low crime neighborhood on the Northside. This isn't the 'west side' or Englewood or whatever neighborhood is talked about as being ultra crime ridden when people talk about gun violence in Chicago.

you must be mistaken because questionmarktarius immediately told us this must be some criminal thug with an illegal gun and therefore no gun control could have ever stopped this so we might as well not even discuss it or he will get really really mad
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Kim_Seong-a
08/17/23 11:51:36 PM
#96:


Jesus Christ I would've made it my life's mission to make sure that worthless shit was in life-altering pain for the remainder of his damnable existence. Hope that eye wound festers.

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CM_Ponch
08/17/23 11:55:29 PM
#97:


What the fuck

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Kloe_Rinz
08/17/23 11:56:13 PM
#98:


America is choosing to never implement gun control, so that means they are choosing never to prevent tragedies like this

Also, the most meaningless discussion that can be held is about the legality of the acquisition of the gun. At some point in its life, that gun was manufactured legally and sold legally. Thats all what matters
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BlueBoy675
08/18/23 12:03:09 AM
#99:


America, where a psychos freedom to own a gun is more important than a 9 year old girls freedom to live

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