Current Events > Zoom tells employees to stop using Zoom and come to the office lol

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DKBananaSlamma
08/09/23 12:05:10 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/tech-work-pandemic-zoom-wfh-rto-e65d5359320bc600fa5e19b68993f52c

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Compsognathus
08/09/23 12:08:30 PM
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Zoom has had a wild ride. Comes in hot during the pandemic and almost immediately punts Microsoft/Skype off its video calling throne. But Microsoft eventually does a giant Teams push to reassert itself, particularly in the business sphere, and with the pandemic becoming less impactful on people socially, Zoom lost a lot of its personal usage and kinda just faded into the background.

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voldothegr8
08/09/23 12:12:59 PM
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Zoom fucking sucks. Anytime a vendor sets up a meeting and it's Zoom instead of Teams they instantly lose points, at that point whatever they're selling better be damn amazing.

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Bleuets
08/09/23 12:18:43 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Zoom fucking sucks. Anytime a vendor sets up a meeting and it's Zoom instead of Teams they instantly lose points, at that point whatever they're selling better be damn amazing.

seriously?! I would much rather do a zoom meeting rather than a teams meeting.
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voldothegr8
08/09/23 12:26:20 PM
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Bleuets posted...
seriously?! I would much rather do a zoom meeting rather than a teams meeting.
They lock many simple UI settings behind paywall now, fuck that garbage. For example, when the presenter begins presenting and the app auto blows up to full screen, there is a setting to prevent that. Or there was anyway, but not anymore on the free version. Must be a subscriber now. I hope they burn.

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:32:04 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
They lock many simple UI settings behind paywall now, fuck that garbage. For example, when the presenter begins presenting and the app auto blows up to full screen, there is a setting to prevent that. Or there was anyway, but not anymore on the free version. Must be a subscriber now. I hope they burn.
Your office did that.
https://superuser.com/questions/1560270/zoom-option-greyed-out-enter-full-screen-when-a-participant-shares-screen
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:46:45 PM
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The only useful purpose Teams serves, is that your company is paying for it.
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CableZL
08/09/23 12:47:42 PM
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Yeah, I much prefer Zoom over Teams.

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DKBananaSlamma
08/09/23 12:48:23 PM
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I hate Teams because everytime I log into my computer at work to do reports, Teams always auto-boots and lags everything >_>

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Lordgold666
08/09/23 1:09:30 PM
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Why the push for people to come back to the office? Is productivity really that behind?

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littlebro07
08/09/23 1:10:08 PM
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CableZL posted...
Yeah, I much prefer Zoom over Teams.


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Ivynn
08/09/23 1:10:13 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Why the push for people to come back to the office? Is productivity really that behind?

No. Productivity actually increases with WFH.

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littlebro07
08/09/23 1:12:35 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Why the push for people to come back to the office? Is productivity really that behind?

All that empty office space is still being paid for. Rent, property taxes, etc.

Instead of just downsizing to a smaller space or selling it off entirely (understandably not an option for companies who rent their office space) they want people to come in so they're at least getting use out of it

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Flaming_Fire619
08/09/23 1:12:47 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Why the push for people to come back to the office? Is productivity really that behind?

Companies are trying to justify the massive rental properties of buildings they have. They have leases on empty buildings atm.

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voldothegr8
08/09/23 1:44:09 PM
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Not true according to the leading authority on WFH studies.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wfh-staunchest-proponents-just-dropped-120000722.html

Remote work, for millions of employees, has long gone from a nice-to-have to a must-have; 40% of U.S. employees currently work remotely for at least one day a week. That figure comes from WFH Research, led by professors Jose Maria Barrero, Nicholas Bloom, and Steven J. Davis. Theyve been surveying Americans working arrangements since May 2020, becoming one of the ultimate authorities on remote work.

The researchers have long maintained that some form of flexible work is the only way forward for most workplaces (In 2023, well be laughing at anyone who does anything else but hybrid, Bloom told Fortune last fall). But their latest working paper, published by Stanfords Institute for Economic Policy and Research, delivers a blow to work-from-home advocates: Fully remote work is associated with 10% to 20% lower productivity than fully in-person work.

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NightMarishPie
08/09/23 1:49:07 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Not true according to the leading authority on WFH studies.
Another study observed a large India-based tech company that also shifted to fully remote in April 2020, finding that worker performance remained constant; but once workers became remote, they worked longer hours. That, WFH authors wrote, implied a drop in employee productivity of 8% to 19%.

In many of the studies we cite and in some of our own survey evidence, workers often get more done when remote simply because they save time from the daily commute and from other office distractions, Barrero tells Fortune. This can make them look more productive on a per day basis, even if it means theyre actually less productive on a per hour basis.

That might explain the seeming discrepancy between WFH Research's latest findings and how workers feel they're performing. An October 2022 survey of white-collar workers by Slacks think tank, Future Forum, found that workers with full schedule flexibility notched 29% higher productivity scores than those with no flexibility at all. Plus, remote and hybrid workers reported 4% higher productivity than fully in-person workers. And most remote capable workers (parents and caregivers in particular) told Pew Research that remote work helps them get through work and meet deadlines better.

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voldothegr8
08/09/23 1:49:28 PM
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The research comes from Stanford, not sure what else to say.

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ELI__2__SLAYTON
08/09/23 1:53:53 PM
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Eh? Teams is goated. Every time I join Zoom there's a slight audio delay. Every time.

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