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mystic_belmont
08/08/23 10:33:46 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192663920/southern-baptist-convention-donald-trump-christianity

It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching "turn the other cheek" [and] to have someone come up after to say, "Where did you get those liberal talking points?" And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak." And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.

Yikes.

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ProfessorKukui
08/08/23 10:35:55 PM
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the cling so hard to the bible but have never read a page in their lives

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KobeSystem
08/08/23 10:36:23 PM
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Far left MESSIAH Jesus Christ

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wanderingshade
08/08/23 10:44:00 PM
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Fundamentalists are a disease.

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Carljank
08/08/23 10:45:01 PM
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The devil is laughing is fucking ass off. Shake my damn head.

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CADE_FOSTER
08/08/23 10:46:48 PM
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KobeSystem posted...
Far left MESSIAH Jesus Christ

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Strider102
08/08/23 10:47:23 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192663920/southern-baptist-convention-donald-trump-christianity

Yikes.

They just admitted they pick and choose what parts of the bible apply and don't apply.

Something we've known all along.

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BunkerBoy
08/08/23 10:58:04 PM
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This ISN'T an onion article? Lmaooo
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nexigrams
08/08/23 11:01:42 PM
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Self-described, "Christians" who live contrary to the actual teaching of Christ?! Surely this must be some sort of anomaly.

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HylianFox
08/08/23 11:02:43 PM
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Newsflash: Evangelicals never gave a shit about what Jesus actually said or did

More at 11

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CADE_FOSTER
08/08/23 11:03:43 PM
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they worship a false idol in trump they already going to hell
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Solar_Crimson
08/08/23 11:05:29 PM
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Yep. These so-called "Christians" don't actually like what Jesus taught, and never did.

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Dancedreamer
08/08/23 11:05:47 PM
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"Jesus was just some woke loser. Go woke go broke!" - Republicans, 5 weeks from now.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/08/23 11:05:50 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore.

But I guess hating women and LGBT still works for them?

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Trumble
08/08/23 11:27:21 PM
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Religion is almost never about sincere belief. In the best of cases, it's the result of peer pressure to (at least pretend to) fit in. Often, it's more a convenient way to try and claim authority, by claiming a deity just so happens to want exactly the same values you have. No one (aside from maybe young children who don't know any better) genuinely believes in that crap anymore.

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Necronmon
08/08/23 11:34:38 PM
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So how long till Trump fans outright say they renounce christ and are pro Satan?

how long till we get to where most Trump supporters just want to go back to the old gods and only want the rules to be to rape and pillage anyone that's not them and nothing else matters?
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HylianFox
08/09/23 12:41:19 AM
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This is the sort of thing that makes The Onion indistinguishable from actual news

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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 12:48:45 AM
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This is more or less the exact same logic used by the zealots that condemned Jesus to death in front of Pontius Pilate

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FortuneCookie
08/09/23 12:51:50 AM
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"We don't need Jesus. Trump is a better messiah anyway. He lets us hate who we want to hate."
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darkace77450
08/09/23 1:00:55 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Even then they pick and choose which parts of the Old Testament they honor. Hating gay people? Yep, sign them up. Forgoing pork? Fuck that, bacon's delicious!

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ForsakenHermit
08/09/23 1:02:10 AM
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Trumble posted...
Religion is almost never about sincere belief. In the best of cases, it's the result of peer pressure to (at least pretend to) fit in. Often, it's more a convenient way to try and claim authority, by claiming a deity just so happens to want exactly the same values you have. No one (aside from maybe young children who don't know any better) genuinely believes in that crap anymore.
Shut the fuck up.

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Gritty
08/09/23 1:02:42 AM
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Literally delusional

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also rampant sexual abuse
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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 1:05:12 AM
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Gritty posted...
Literally delusional

also rampant sexual abuse
"Women go to heaven only if they have sex with me" seems to be a common theme in cults

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cjsdowg
08/09/23 1:10:28 AM
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When these people take over we are all done for .

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andel
08/09/23 1:13:20 AM
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we have a 'christian' here on ce that claims gay marriage should be illegal because it discriminates against christians and that abortion should be illegal despite the fact that the bible seems to be explicitly ok with abortion

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hockeybub89
08/09/23 1:26:49 AM
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Trumpers: "I like messiahs that don't get crucified"

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mercurydude
08/09/23 2:04:17 AM
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mystic_belmont posted...
And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak." And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.

It reminds me of a line from that WW2 era film Why We Fight: Prelude to War.

"The word of God and the word of fuehrers cannot be reconciled---then God must go!"

That's MAGA through and through. They worship wealth and power... God lost any meaning for them long ago, no matter how much they like to virtue signal in his name.

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Dark_Arbron
08/09/23 2:13:41 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Shut the fuck up.

Uh, hes right?

Religion was always a tool for control. Obey what we-erm, the holy text says or go to Hell, give to the church or go to Hell.

In the 21st century there is no justification for anyone with a shred of critical thinking ability to believe in religion.

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itachi15243
08/09/23 2:18:15 AM
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mystic_belmont posted...
to have someone come up after to say, "Where did you get those liberal talking points?" And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak.

This is why as a Christian I just don't fucking see the "religious" right as actual fucking Christians.

Most of them would be happier worshipping Trump if it'd let them be as violent and miserable as they wanted.

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Necronmon
08/09/23 2:18:56 AM
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In the 21st century there is no justification for anyone with a shred of critical thinking ability to believe in religion.

That's why those who loath critical thinking are trying to force mob rule and all...
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BunkerBoy
08/09/23 2:31:11 AM
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andel posted...
we have a 'christian' here on ce that claims gay marriage should be illegal because it discriminates against christians and that abortion should be illegal despite the fact that the bible seems to be explicitly ok with abortion
Who the fuck says this?
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Sega9599
08/09/23 2:33:43 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Shut up.

Not a good response to persuade him to reconsider.

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You can always find those who deviate, even in the Bible itself Paul has to write to churches who are straying away.

It's not a 'new' phenomenon

andel posted...
despite the fact that the bible seems to be explicitly ok with abortion

Bait. I expect next will be "despite the fact the Bible seems to be ok with murder"

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ForsakenHermit
08/09/23 3:35:42 AM
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Sega9599 posted...
Not a good response to persuade him to reconsider.

You can always find those who deviate, even in the Bible itself Paul has to write to churches who are straying away.

It's not a 'new' phenomenon

Bait. I expect next will be "despite the fact the Bible seems to be ok with murder"
Trying to get an antitheist to take a nuanced look at religion is like asking a Trump supporter to take a nuanced view of the right.

Thinking that almost nobody in religion believes it especially those who dedicate their entire lives to it is a conspiracy theory for foolish teenagers who think they are a hell of a lot smarter than they really are.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't believe in any of the organized religions. Thinking Christianity is stupid is one thing, thinking almost no Christians actually believe anything Jesus of Nazareth was ever ascribed to saying is far stupider than that.

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KobeSystem
08/09/23 9:22:43 PM
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Far Left ICON Jesus Christ

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Axiom
08/09/23 9:25:35 PM
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Knew my boy jesus was a leftie
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St0rmFury
08/10/23 7:01:30 PM
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Jesus: "Be kind to your neighbor."

"But lord, what if my neighbor is... gay?"

Jesus: "Did I fucking stutter?"

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jumi
08/10/23 7:04:24 PM
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Jesus has gone wOkE!!!11

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Lord_Shadow
08/10/23 7:05:34 PM
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https://youtu.be/SZ2L-R8NgrA

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Unsuprised_Pika
08/10/23 7:11:57 PM
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"If a man strikes you turn the other assualt rifle and send that dirty ****** groomer to hell. Fuck the poor. Heil Trump. " - Jesus if he was accurate to how the GOP thinks he is.

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Guns_of_Verdun
08/10/23 7:14:57 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
the cling so hard to the bible but have never read a page in their lives


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HylianFox
08/10/23 8:03:17 PM
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Axiom posted...
Knew my boy jesus was a leftie

Flanders was right

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flussence
08/10/23 8:07:48 PM
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whole crowd of people whooping and hollering and jeering and acting incredulous that fascists are consistently exactly what they say they are

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Tom_Joad
08/10/23 8:11:14 PM
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If that were the case, they'd believe man is inherently good at birth. It's only by living and making choices that one can choose evil. (ie: no original sin)

And to top that, they'd believe that Satan is still a servant of the Lord. The tempter and the accuser, there to provide a choice to humanity. That without him, there cannot be any free will.

Finally, hell would not be a place of eternal torment to Evangelicals, either. It'd be a place to purify souls for the world to come. And that the maximum length any soul can be in there is 12 months.

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But they don't believe any of that. If anything, Evangelists are more akin to the pagan cults of middle east during the time of biblical Israel.

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ChocoboMog123
08/10/23 8:19:17 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
If that were the case, they'd believe man is inherently good at birth. It's only by living and making choices that one can choose evil. (ie: no original sin)

And to top that, they'd believe that Satan is still a servant of the Lord. The tempter and the accuser, there to provide a choice to humanity. That without him, there cannot be any free will.

Finally, hell would not be a place of eternal torment to Evangelicals, either. It'd be a place to purify souls for the world to come. And that the maximum length any soul can be in there is 12 months.

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But they don't believe any of that. If anything, Evangelists are more akin to the pagan cults of middle east during the time of biblical Israel.
Damn, I forgot where they said all of that in Torah class.

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Alteres
08/10/23 8:22:43 PM
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Trumble posted...
Religion is almost never about sincere belief. In the best of cases, it's the result of peer pressure to (at least pretend to) fit in. Often, it's more a convenient way to try and claim authority, by claiming a deity just so happens to want exactly the same values you have. No one (aside from maybe young children who don't know any better) genuinely believes in that crap anymore.
Hmm

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bfslick50
08/10/23 8:32:37 PM
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Jesus doesnt work for them anymore, theyve found a new Mesiah

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HylianFox
08/10/23 8:40:33 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
"Women go to heaven only if they have sex with me" seems to be a common theme in cults

Also "As Leader, I'm the only one who gets to have wives/sex and can take any woman I want"

It's so common even 'Manos': The Hands of Fate used this...

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Charismic_Zach_Gowen
08/10/23 8:52:41 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Newsflash: Evangelicals never gave a shit about what Jesus actually said or did

More at 11
It's not just the Evangelicals. Catholics are becoming more radicalized

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