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AceMos 08/07/23 1:48:35 PM #51: |
Baha05 posted...
Right but again the big problem here is the nature of the brand and the nature of the two companies involved with one probably having more of a want for the games to come out faster.so you admit gamefreak are responsbile for the lack of time on the games because if they wanted more time they could use their voting power to get it and again we know nintendos stance on delaying games its a core part of their business and again it lines up with their own self published games low quality --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProfessorKukui 08/07/23 1:54:17 PM #52: |
topic got baha'd
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Baha05 08/07/23 1:57:31 PM #53: |
AceMos posted...
so you admit gamefreak are responsbile for the lack of time on the gamesNo because again they arent publishing the games. Also do realize if you have three or four companies involved with voting powers all it takes it the other three to vote no for more time. Even if you cut it down to three two out of the three can vote no. So there are holes in your logic there. Also the fact that Nintendo does its own weird things should be telling they arent the people to really take their own words seriously enough. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 08/07/23 2:01:54 PM #54: |
there are 3 companies who own TPC
nintendo game freak and creatures inc we know nintendo would vote yes to delaying a game so that means the 2 nos are gamefreak and creatures inc and it fits gamefreaks entire company history they have been putting out rushed products since the beginning gen 1 is a mess of a game ther erecent my town hero is the most meh game ever that gamefreak its self did not bother to even market or promote --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 08/07/23 2:05:30 PM #55: |
ProfessorKukui posted...
topic got baha'dHe might have been the one running defense awhile back for Pokemon Stadium on NSO not including interactivity with the Gameboy games, despite that being an incredibly simple thing for them to do. Makes me wonder why companies even bother with marketing teams at this point lol --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/07/23 2:06:35 PM #56: |
AceMos posted...
there are 3 companies who own TPCThree companies that were part of the formation but again TPC is its own company that does its own things on the side without manor meddling from its three founders. And do you know if Nintendo would hardcore vote yes to delay or are you under the assumption of their own saying from one employee? And using Gen 1 is disingenuous at best since it was literally the first game in the series from a company that didnt male a lot of games prior let alone a lot of games in that style, back on the original Gameboy. And given even how modern gaming lot of smaller companies put out hit or miss games this shouldnt even be a point to argue unless you want to push bad narratives. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/07/23 2:09:46 PM #57: |
Gwynevere posted...
He might have been the one running defense awhile back for Pokemon Stadium on NSO not including interactivity with the Gameboy games, despite that being an incredibly simple thing for them to do. Makes me wonder why companies even bother with marketing teams at this point lolThe problem with that more comes from people blaming Gamefreak for that though which just pushes that really bad narrative again since it would be on Nintendo for that. Not to mention you kinda need the Pokemon Games on NSO to have that compatibility for Stadium since the other means might be more complicated or restrictive (One being borrowing from Home which might be complicated and the other inserting the game data into Stadium itself which might not work if they do plan on bringing the games to NSO) --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 08/07/23 2:19:41 PM #58: |
Regardless of ownership percentages and all that the underlying issue is that there is no financial incentive for any of the involved parties to change the release schedule. The games might be rushed, unfinished messes but they are profitable rushed, unfinished messes.
Game Freak in particular would be very hesitant to slow the schedule down since I have to imagine 99% of their income is directly related to Pokmon games. Expanding the release schedule is going to be a major hit to their financials. Nintendo likes the reasonably hands off easy money the franchise generates. And they like that Game Freak gets the heat when the games quality get attacked. If you want Pokmon games to change they need to start to actually underperform. People need to demonstrate that rushing shit out won't be rewarded. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/07/23 2:22:13 PM #59: |
Compsognathus posted...
Regardless of ownership percentages and all that the underlying issue is that there is no financial incentive for any of the involved parties to change the release schedule. The games might be rushed, unfinished messes but they are profitable rushed, unfinished messes.Which is true but at the same time has been something the industry struggles with unless a game was so badly made. Though in most cases I bet TPC has the bigger incentive here to not change things because they probably are putting in the most operational costs for the franchise. Nintendo has their own profits which means Gamefreak and Creatures would be the only others impacted by any changes and even them the revenue from the IP somewhat goes back to them. It really makes you think how is tis split up four ways in terms of profits. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProfessorKukui 08/07/23 2:38:26 PM #60: |
Gwynevere posted...
He might have been the one running defense awhile back for Pokemon Stadium on NSO not including interactivity with the Gameboy games, despite that being an incredibly simple thing for them to do. Makes me wonder why companies even bother with marketing teams at this point lolHe's been doing it for a long, long time. Its dedication. --- he's #b#reaking all the rules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomClark 08/07/23 2:39:33 PM #61: |
Give us a fucking Pokmon Ranger game, you cowards!
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Baha05 08/07/23 2:40:22 PM #62: |
ProfessorKukui posted...
He's been doing it for a long, long time. Its dedication.If discussing anything related to video games and making a counter argument for things is dedication so be it. Nothing wrong with that just as there is nothing wrong with praise or criticism. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkBuster22904 08/07/23 2:45:01 PM #63: |
Baha05 posted...
The problem with that more comes from people blaming Gamefreak for that though which just pushes that really bad narrative again since it would be on Nintendo for that.So then its on gamefreak for deciding to not spend ten minutes emailing the rom data to Nintendo. Data that already existed and bridged into other software like Home, on 3ds. or equally their fault for deciding to not update either stadium to recognize either the games or a Home box as a gbc cart, a feat that emulators accomplished long ago. At what point does gamefreak shoulder any responsibility for cutting corners with their own products? --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AllHeDoesIsWin 08/07/23 2:48:16 PM #64: |
Prediction Pokemon World Championship mention Update on that Trading Card Game classic thing Pokemon Go/Unite/Sleep/Cafe/MasterSex updates Detective Pikachu 2 news Scarlet/Violet DLC news ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SF_Okami 08/07/23 2:48:29 PM #65: |
I just waant Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
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Baha05 08/07/23 2:50:38 PM #66: |
DarkBuster22904 posted...
So then it on gamefreak for deciding to not spend ten minutes emailing the rom data to Nintendo. Data that already existed and bridged into other software like Home, on 3rd.No because if anything Nintendo should already have said ROM data in the first place. And in reality no developer ever works on VC ports of any of their games. If that was the case you could probably blame a lot of games that lack features on people not even involved. Which goes to show there is a more inherent bias when it comes the the franchise as a whole and blaming Gamefreak for things not even in their control. Like you bring up Home as an example but Gamefreak doesnt even work on that that is done by Ilca it would be more on them and even then its probably not worth it or easy to make modern Pokemon go backwards to split their stats or combine them back to their Gen 1-2 days. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkBuster22904 08/07/23 3:01:34 PM #67: |
So in summation:
Gamefreak is not responsible for their rushed games because TPC is unreasonable with their schedule. Gamefreak is not responsible for fighting to slow down the schedule because it apparently wouldnt work because reasons. Gamefreak is not responsible for fixing their understaffing problem because it apparently wouldnt help because the deadlines are still tight. They arent responsible for the rights to the VC games despite owning the rights to the VC games. They arent responsible for a basic rom of gen 1 or 2 , which is all the NSO games are, because despite owning those games its 100% Nintendos decision, he said with no proof. They arent responsible for Home because of Ilca, a company they work closely with and issue all Pokemon-related marching orders to. The poor quality of their non-rushed, non-Pokemon games like Little Town Hero has no bearing on the equally-poor quality of their Pokmon games, because, well, you didnt answer this one, And apparently Gamefreak management having a prevailing attitude of it will sell well regardless and not caring when employees push for better, according to testimonials of their actual staff, is also irrelevant, because I notice you didnt address that, either. So again I ask, at what point does Gamefreak take any responsibility for their own products? --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DementedDurian 08/07/23 3:06:01 PM #68: |
DarkBuster22904 posted...
So in summation: Tch. Found the mole. --- (She/Her) I'm a succubus. Don't worry, I'm not going to hurt you. <3 Video Game IGN: Mystic. Ask me for a joke, I come up with some good ones. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/07/23 3:13:36 PM #70: |
DarkBuster22904 posted...
So in summation:
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DKBananaSlamma 08/07/23 3:14:34 PM #71: |
Man, I just wanted to talk about how fun pokeymans are, not workplace politics >_>
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Baha05 08/07/23 3:17:42 PM #72: |
DKBananaSlamma posted...
Man, I just wanted to talk about how fun pokeymans are, not workplace politics >_>Kinda would happen though since these topics tend to just repeat the same line of It will be nothing but mobile games and DLC --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 08/07/23 3:22:47 PM #73: |
Baha05 posted...
Kinda would happen though since these topics tend to just repeat the same line of It will be nothing but mobile games and DLCThe topic properly got CE'd --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/07/23 3:23:36 PM #74: |
DKBananaSlamma posted...
The topic properly got CE'dDoes that make me one of yall? Or the other way around? --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/07/23 3:30:33 PM #75: |
Baha05 posted...
Does that make me one of yall? Or the other way around? Welcome to Hotel CElifornia. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 08/08/23 1:46:43 AM #76: |
Gen 1 and 2 on Switch lets go!!
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DarkChozoGhost 08/08/23 1:49:36 AM #77: |
Baha05 posted...
disingenuous at best --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/08/23 1:53:03 AM #78: |
Not sure what you are implying there by cutting out the majority of the post but
SomeLikeItHoth posted... Gen 1 and 2 on Switch lets go!! Has there been any leaks? --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 08/08/23 1:53:25 AM #79: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted... Gen 1 and 2 on Switch lets go!!They should have gen 3 too ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 08/08/23 1:54:10 AM #80: |
Baha why do you always get into arguments when it comes to gamefreak and pokemon? You seem to do this in every topic I see you in about games.
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Baha05 08/08/23 1:56:15 AM #81: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Baha why do you always get into arguments when it comes to gamefreak and pokemon? You seem to do this in every topic I see you in about games.Because Incan disagree and point out flaws of peoples complaints? I just think people doing what they do with Gamefreak are just overly kinda hypocritical. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 08/08/23 3:18:40 AM #82: |
Baha05 posted...
Has there been any leaks?Only Zikten posted... They should have gen 3 tooSeems kind of overkill. Although I wouldn't mind it. --- FAM FOREVER | https://iili.io/HSJO4Uv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/08/23 3:19:44 AM #83: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
OnlyWouldnt be over kill but I can see it being released at the slower pace. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/08/23 3:23:48 AM #84: |
When will this happen? Anyone got a time? One that including a "time from now" response because I can't read US times and convert them. My brain refuses.
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ViewtifulJoe 08/08/23 3:24:21 AM #85: |
What are the odds this will be entertainingly anti-hype?
I kinda love stuff like that. --- Still waiting on that third threat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 08/08/23 3:26:19 AM #86: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
When will this happen? Anyone got a time? One that including a "time from now" response because I can't read US times and convert them. My brain refuses.5 and a half hours from now. --- FAM FOREVER | https://iili.io/HSJO4Uv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/08/23 3:27:14 AM #87: |
ViewtifulJoe posted...
What are the odds this will be entertainingly anti-hype?The present or topics? --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulJoe 08/08/23 3:40:06 AM #88: |
Baha05 posted...
The present or topics?The video. If they make a bunch of games that's neat, but if it's the presentation equivalent of a garbage bag bursting open while you're carrying it, that's good too. --- Still waiting on that third threat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 08/08/23 3:41:05 AM #89: |
ViewtifulJoe posted...
The video.It will be seen as both to a lot of people be it good or stuff they dont want which is always been a problem with Directs, Presents, Play, or even E3 --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 08/08/23 4:32:13 AM #90: |
Is it too early to start with the expectations vs hopes thing?
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tremain07 08/08/23 7:39:16 AM #91: |
It's time
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AceMos 08/08/23 7:54:44 AM #92: |
tremain07 posted...
It's timelink link --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 08/08/23 7:55:09 AM #93: |
Sorry at work it's up to you ace
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AceMos 08/08/23 7:55:56 AM #94: |
i cant find the direct
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AceMos 08/08/23 7:56:31 AM #95: |
its still an hour away thats why i cant find it
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tremain07 08/08/23 8:00:17 AM #96: |
Oh darn it I'll be back at lunch
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M-Watcher 08/08/23 8:06:29 AM #97: |
Predictions:
Mobile updates Mobile updates Mobile updates Mobile upda- you get the point Talking about some real life thing like the ongoing championship Detective Pikachu Returns info A Scarlet and Violet event coming soon Scarlet and Violet DLC info + Teal Mask release date And maybe some announcement for a non-mobile spinoff game like Mystery Dungeon --- Currently playing / Backlog / Collection: https://howlongtobeat.com/user?n=M_Watcher ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 08/08/23 8:24:06 AM #98: |
Predictions:
Talk about Pokemon Sleep DLC info SV raid stuff that nobody cares about mobile game --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Scarecrow17 08/08/23 8:25:20 AM #99: |
Mystery Dungeon please
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