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Aztex 08/08/23 1:06:13 PM #51:	How come Japan didn't warn the US before attacking Pearl Harbor!?!?!? --- Hot Girls Message Board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1291-hot-girls <cite>Aztex posted [p:975329534] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>How come Japan didn't warn the US before attacking Pearl Harbor!?!?!? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/08/23 1:12:13 PM #52:	bIuerain posted... Japan was already planning to surrender... to the Soviet Union. Truman dropped those bombs to hasten Japanese surrender on terms favorable to America. People always throw out these claims as if they are fact and there was absolutely zero other reasons for the bombs, such as the obvious and commonly stated one. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:975329654] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>bIuerain posted... </cite><quote>Japan was already planning to surrender... to the Soviet Union. Truman dropped those bombs to hasten Japanese surrender on terms favorable to America.</quote>People always throw out these claims as if they are fact and there was absolutely zero other reasons for the bombs, such as the obvious and commonly stated one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 08/08/23 1:19:39 PM #53:	Japan was already starving its citizens to death and was training them for an all or nothing land invasion. If the emperor and war council wanted to save more people they could have surrendered after Okinawa. Instead Japan asked civilians to commit suicide and not to be captured. Japan used them as human shields. Hell after Iwo Jima Japan was done but still forced its self into a losing battle. Surrender should always be in quotes the council never agreed on the terms to surrender forcing the emperor to do it. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:975329790] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>Japan was already starving its citizens to death and was training them for an all or nothing land invasion. If the emperor and war council wanted to save more people they could have surrendered after Okinawa. Instead Japan asked civilians to commit suicide and not to be captured. Japan used them as human shields. Hell after Iwo Jima Japan was done but still forced its self into a losing battle.Surrender should always be in quotes the council never agreed on the terms to surrender forcing the emperor to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
buddhamonster 08/08/23 1:35:54 PM #54:	bIuerain posted... Japan was already planning to surrender... to the Soviet Union. Truman dropped those bombs to hasten Japanese surrender on terms favorable to America. That was not going to happen. The Yalta conference and Potsdam conference all but ensured that the Soviets would not have accepted any surrender terms from Japan without first allowing the Americans to establish their terms first. In exchange, the Russians were giving recognition of the Mongolian breakaway lands, rail access through the regions currently occupied by Japan (mostly places in Manchuria), and a handful of ports and islands they really wanted on the Pacific coast. The Soviets declared war on Japan at the request of the American Government, and took land that the Americans offered them for their assistance. This myth that the US dropped the bombs so they could rush ahead and end the war for fear of the Soviets taking land is a total myth. The entire thing was agreed upon months in advance. Stalin was there because he promised to invade Japan at the Yalta conference, then affirmed that promise at Potsdam. There was no "fear of a better deal", because they hammered out what the "deal" was going to be months in advance. Furthermore, it's reported that at the Potsdam conference, Stalin was informed of the atomic bombs, and was told of their intention to use it on Japan sometime during the summer. There's even strong evidence to suggest that Stalin was provided photographs of the trinity test as proof. They didn't need to demonstrate to the Soviets that the atomic bombs were a thing. Stalin knew, at a minumum, a full month before everyone else that the bombs existed. The sheer amount of misinformation and myths surrounding the surrender of Japan and atomic bombings is honestly quite astounding, considering just how well documented all this stuff is. Like, we have in writing the Soviets agreeing to invade Japan on behalf of the Americans and all the little port towns and railways that were promised to them should they attack. Why would America request their help, offer them a bunch of concessions for their involvement, then immiedetely panic and speed run surrender for "fear of them getting better terms from the Soviets!". That's nonsensical. It flies in the face of every piece of documented information we have regarding the Yalta and Potsdam agreements. --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! <cite>buddhamonster posted [p:975330124] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>bIuerain posted... </cite><quote>Japan was already planning to surrender... to the Soviet Union. Truman dropped those bombs to hasten Japanese surrender on terms favorable to America.</quote>That was not going to happen. The Yalta conference and Potsdam conference all but ensured that the Soviets would not have accepted any surrender terms from Japan without first allowing the Americans to establish their terms first. In exchange, the Russians were giving recognition of the Mongolian breakaway lands, rail access through the regions currently occupied by Japan (mostly places in Manchuria), and a handful of ports and islands they really wanted on the Pacific coast. The Soviets declared war on Japan at the request of the American Government, and took land that the Americans offered them for their assistance. This myth that the US dropped the bombs so they could rush ahead and end the war for fear of the Soviets taking land is a total myth. The entire thing was agreed upon months in advance. Stalin was there because he promised to invade Japan at the Yalta conference, then affirmed that promise at Potsdam. There was no "fear of a better deal", because they hammered out what the "deal" was going to be months in advance.Furthermore, it's reported that at the Potsdam conference, Stalin was informed of the atomic bombs, and was told of their intention to use it on Japan sometime during the summer. There's even strong evidence to suggest that Stalin was provided photographs of the trinity test as proof. They didn't need to demonstrate to the Soviets that the atomic bombs were a thing. Stalin knew, at a minumum, a full month before everyone else that the bombs existed.The sheer amount of misinformation and myths surrounding the surrender of Japan and atomic bombings is honestly quite astounding, considering just how well documented all this stuff is. Like, we have in writing the Soviets agreeing to invade Japan on behalf of the Americans and all the little port towns and railways that were promised to them should they attack. Why would America request their help, offer them a bunch of concessions for their involvement, then immiedetely panic and speed run surrender for "fear of them getting better terms from the Soviets!".That's nonsensical. It flies in the face of every piece of documented information we have regarding the Yalta and Potsdam agreements. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HudGard 08/08/23 1:46:51 PM #55:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Oh boy I can't wait for people who have done 30-60 minutes of research on their side of the argument on an excruciatingly complex subject to share their opinion sans context and evidence. I hate how true and prevalent this is. Honestly more like 3-6 minutes more likely. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>HudGard posted [p:975330312] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite><quote>Oh boy I can't wait for people who have done 30-60 minutes of research on their side of the argument on an excruciatingly complex subject to share their opinion sans context and evidence.</quote>I hate how true and prevalent this is. Honestly more like 3-6 minutes more likely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
invertedlegdrop 08/08/23 2:03:14 PM #57:	The bombs were originally designated for Germany but the Nazis fell before the bomb was ready. Dropping the bombs would in Truman's eyes hopefully prevent Operation Downfall which was the two part invasion of Kyushu, then mainland Japan... The idea of invading the home islands horrified the Allies, because the stubborn Japanese defense of Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and Okinawa convinced America military planners that the Japanese populous would fight to the death in the invasion happened... Projections were a million US troops would fall in the invasion, and millions of Japanese would be wiped out... Truman looked at the numbers and went with the bomb and it worked for it DID save millions of lives... If the bombs failed and Downfall happened...Japan would have probably been wiped out with millions dead and everything destroyed... Thankfully Truman's gamble paid off... --- Political correctness is the fascism of the 90s-Roger Ebert I don't have pet peeves, I have major psychotic ******* hatreds-George Carlin <cite>invertedlegdrop posted [p:975330628] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>The bombs were originally designated for Germany but the Nazis fell before the bomb was ready. Dropping the bombs would in Truman's eyes hopefully prevent Operation Downfall which was the two part invasion of Kyushu, then mainland Japan...The idea of invading the home islands horrified the Allies, because the stubborn Japanese defense of Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and Okinawa convinced America military planners that the Japanese populous would fight to the death in the invasion happened...Projections were a million US troops would fall in the invasion, and millions of Japanese would be wiped out...Truman looked at the numbers and went with the bomb and it worked for it DID save millions of lives...If the bombs failed and Downfall happened...Japan would have probably been wiped out with millions dead and everything destroyed...Thankfully Truman's gamble paid off... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/08/23 2:07:13 PM #58:	K181 posted... There was also divided mistrust on if Japan was close to surrender or not. Some thought they were close, but others couldn't get over the brutal defense of Okinawa, Iwo Jima, and Manila out of their heads and couldn't believe that that military was really ready to stand down. And on the Japanese side, some of the top brass wanted to surrender and some didn't. The 1940s in general is one of the worst periods in human history. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:975330695] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite><quote>There was also divided mistrust on if Japan was close to surrender or not. Some thought they were close, but others couldn't get over the brutal defense of Okinawa, Iwo Jima, and Manila out of their heads and couldn't believe that that military was really ready to stand down.</quote>And on the Japanese side, some of the top brass wanted to surrender and some didn't. The 1940s in general is one of the worst periods in human history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrestlinFan 08/08/23 2:15:10 PM #59:	invertedlegdrop posted... The bombs were originally designated for Germany but the Nazis fell before the bomb was ready. Dropping the bombs would in Truman's eyes hopefully prevent Operation Downfall which was the two part invasion of Kyushu, then mainland Japan... The idea of invading the home islands horrified the Allies, because the stubborn Japanese defense of Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and Okinawa convinced America military planners that the Japanese populous would fight to the death in the invasion happened... Projections were a million US troops would fall in the invasion, and millions of Japanese would be wiped out... Truman looked at the numbers and went with the bomb and it worked for it DID save millions of lives... If the bombs failed and Downfall happened...Japan would have probably been wiped out with millions dead and everything destroyed... Thankfully Truman's gamble paid off... Stop parroting this DEAD WRONG bullshit ffs. --- Trying to burn the bridges to a culture that taught us to hate and fear and live like cogs in a machine and not like lovers, friends, and kin. <cite>WrestlinFan posted [p:975330860] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>invertedlegdrop posted... </cite><quote>The bombs were originally designated for Germany but the Nazis fell before the bomb was ready. Dropping the bombs would in Truman's eyes hopefully prevent Operation Downfall which was the two part invasion of Kyushu, then mainland Japan...The idea of invading the home islands horrified the Allies, because the stubborn Japanese defense of Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and Okinawa convinced America military planners that the Japanese populous would fight to the death in the invasion happened...Projections were a million US troops would fall in the invasion, and millions of Japanese would be wiped out...Truman looked at the numbers and went with the bomb and it worked for it DID save millions of lives...If the bombs failed and Downfall happened...Japan would have probably been wiped out with millions dead and everything destroyed...Thankfully Truman's gamble paid off...</quote>Stop parroting this DEAD WRONG bullshit ffs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 08/08/23 2:21:50 PM #60:	I think the fear of mass suicide by the Japanese should be a thing. Soldiers and civilians did take this way out instead of surrendering on the islands. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:975331008] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>I think the fear of mass suicide by the Japanese should be a thing. Soldiers and civilians did take this way out instead of surrendering on the islands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
invertedlegdrop 08/08/23 2:29:37 PM #61:	WrestlinFan posted... Stop parroting this DEAD WRONG bullshit ffs. Really how is it wrong? --- Political correctness is the fascism of the 90s-Roger Ebert I don't have pet peeves, I have major psychotic ******* hatreds-George Carlin <cite>invertedlegdrop posted [p:975331222] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>WrestlinFan posted... </cite><quote>Stop parroting this DEAD WRONG bullshit ffs.</quote>Really how is it wrong? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 08/08/23 5:48:41 PM #63:	itachi15243 posted... Not only did he warn the leadership, both towns had tons of paper pamphlets urgering civilians to evacuate, explaining how devastating the new bomb was dropped on them in the days prior to the Bombs. Nagasaki was the backup site chosen last minute cause of weather. Kokura was supposed to be the 2nd city bombed. The pamphlets urged the citizens to get their government to surrender but the pamphlets did not tell them where to go to be safe. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:975335072] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite><quote>Not only did he warn the leadership, both towns had tons of paper pamphlets urgering civilians to evacuate, explaining how devastating the new bomb was dropped on them in the days prior to the Bombs.</quote>Nagasaki was the backup site chosen last minute cause of weather. Kokura was supposed to be the 2nd city bombed. The pamphlets urged the citizens to get their government to surrender but the pamphlets did not tell them where to go to be safe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 08/08/23 5:51:17 PM #64:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The military thinking every citizen on mainland will fight as hard as every soldier on Iwo Jima doesnt make it fact. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:975335121] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> The military thinking every citizen on mainland will fight as hard as every soldier on Iwo Jima doesnt make it fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/08/23 5:54:44 PM #65:	bfslick50 posted... The military thinking every citizen on mainland will fight as hard as every soldier on Iwo Jima doesnt make it fact. Do you think it's unreasonable for two nations at war to make assumptions about the behavior of each others' populations based on interactions with them during the conflict? --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:975335189] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>The military thinking every citizen on mainland will fight as hard as every soldier on Iwo Jima doesnt make it fact.</quote>Do you think it's unreasonable for two nations at war to make assumptions about the behavior of each others' populations based on interactions with them during the conflict? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 08/08/23 6:10:55 PM #67:	He wanted an actual demonstration for the whole world to see, mainly the USSR who are geographically close to Japan and was going to be our next target. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:975335499] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>He wanted an actual demonstration for the whole world to see, mainly the USSR who are geographically close to Japan and was going to be our next target. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 08/08/23 8:31:46 PM #68:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] DeadBankerDream posted... Do you think it's unreasonable for two nations at war to make assumptions about the behavior of each others' populations based on interactions with them during the conflict? Id call it a reasonable assumption or good intentions. The post I was responding to used a much stronger statement than reasonable assumption. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:975338223] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>Do you think it's unreasonable for two nations at war to make assumptions about the behavior of each others' populations based on interactions with them during the conflict?</quote>Id call it a reasonable assumption or good intentions. The post I was responding to used a much stronger statement than reasonable assumption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcoRubio 08/10/23 5:34:29 PM #69:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You really have no clue what you're talking about. --- She/Her <cite>MarcoRubio posted [p:975376428] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You really have no clue what you're talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Powdered_Toast 08/10/23 5:50:27 PM #70:	buddhamonster posted... Why would America request their help, offer them a bunch of concessions for their involvement, then immiedetely panic and speed run surrender for "fear of them getting better terms from the Soviets!". Because some youtubers said so. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! <cite>Powdered_Toast posted [p:975376710] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>buddhamonster posted... </cite><quote>Why would America request their help, offer them a bunch of concessions for their involvement, then immiedetely panic and speed run surrender for "fear of them getting better terms from the Soviets!".</quote>Because some youtubers said so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank 08/10/23 5:51:48 PM #71:	He wanted the glory of winning the war himself in the most memorable way possible. Truly a shit person. --- Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent. Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2 <cite>Carljank posted [p:975376734] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>He wanted the glory of winning the war himself in the most memorable way possible. Truly a shit person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
flussence 08/10/23 6:05:43 PM #72:	"Why does the USA not behave like its propaganda machine tells me it does???? Superman would never do this" --- Editor's note: The sound of children screaming has been removed. <cite>flussence posted [p:975376953] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>"Why does the USA not behave like its propaganda machine tells me it does???? Superman would never do this" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 08/10/23 10:21:49 PM #73:	flussence posted... "Why does the USA not behave like its propaganda machine tells me it does???? Superman would never do this" There is a short of Superman fighting imperial Japan. Popeye did too. Then the Batman serial he yells J a p as he fights villain. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:975381184] in How come T... [t:80529629]...</cite> <quote>flussence posted... </cite><quote>"Why does the USA not behave like its propaganda machine tells me it does???? Superman would never do this"</quote>There is a short of Superman fighting imperial Japan. Popeye did too. Then the Batman serial he yells J a p as he fights villain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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