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Shadow_Don posted...

Its not an assumption to say that a civilization with ftl travel would be more advanced than us. Its just a fact.

It is.
1. You don't know how they FTL
2. You don't know what it taked to invent it.

For all you know they discovered a new phenomenon that helped them.
Ex: wormhole fly though doesn't require a big brain

WingsOfGood posted...

But then humans from the future would be interested in the past would they not? We would 100% go to the past if we could time travel.

And thus would be so advanced, that modern technology would be of use or make a difference to them.

lmao aliens and time travel

WingsOfGood posted...

For all you know they discovered a new phenomenon that helped them.
Ex: wormhole fly though doesn't require a big brain

Properly navigating a wormhole would.

WingsOfGood posted...

For all you know they discovered a new phenomenon that helped them.

Yea thats typically how science and tech advances.

Ex: wormhole fly though doesn't require a big brain

How are they flying through wormholes? With technology or with magic?

mystic_belmont posted...

Properly navigating a wormhole would.

So you seen one? Do tell

Shadow_Don posted...

Yea thats typically how science and tech advances.

So you watched countless alien civilization advance to backup that statement?
Right?

mystic_belmont posted...

And thus would be so advanced, that modern technology would be of use or make a difference to them.

Maybe they are traveling the universe trying to find out why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

Heineken14 posted...

Maybe they are traveling the universe trying to find out why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

Maybe they find humans hot and want to breed

We may be their animu waifus

WingsOfGood posted...

So you watched countless alien civilization advance to backup that statement?
Right?

I dont need to observe alien life to tell you that "observing new phenomenon and using it" is literally how science and technology works by definition.

WingsOfGood posted...

Maybe they find humans hot and want to breed

We may be their animu waifus

joke topic confirmed

WingsOfGood posted...

So you watched countless alien civilization advance to backup that statement?
Right?

We are basing it on how our technology advances. If you sent back a carrier group to WW2, it would wipe the floor with any navy from WW2, and that is with only less than 100 years of advancement.

WingsOfGood posted...

So you seen one? Do tell

https://www.astronomy.com/science/what-are-wormholes-an- astrophysicist-explains-these-shortcuts-through-space-time/

While researchers have never found a wormhole in our universe, scientists often see wormholes described in the solutions to important physics equations. Most prominently, the solutions to the equations behind Einsteins theory of space-time and general relativity include wormholes. This theory describes the shape of the universe and how stars, planets and other objects move throughout it. Because Einsteins theory has been tested many, many times and found to be correct every time, some scientists do expect wormholes to exist somewhere out in the universe.
But, other scientists think wormholes cant possibly exist because they would be too unstable.
The constant pull of gravity affects every object in the universe, including Earth. So gravity would have an effect on wormholes, too. The scientists who are skeptical about wormholes believe that after a short time the middle of the wormhole would collapse under its own gravity, unless it had some force pushing outward from inside the wormhole to counteract that force. The most likely way it would do that is using whats called negative energies, which would oppose gravity and stabilize the wormhole.
But as far as scientists know, negative energies can be created only in amounts much too small to counteract a wormholes own gravity. Its possible that the Big Bang created teeny, tiny wormholes with small amounts of negative energies way back at the beginning of the universe, and over time these wormholes have stretched out as the universe has expanded.

mystic_belmont posted...

We are basing it on how our technology advances.

Dun dun dun

An that means it is fundamentally in error.

mystic_belmont posted...

But, other scientists think wormholes cant possibly exist because they would be too unstable.

So you haven't and have no idea.
Wormhole was just an example btw. Any phenomenon that would accomplish same thing works and I am more implying one that we haven't even theorized.
But that would probably just confuse you so I said wormholes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/0/1/AAWLQcAAEuXl.jpg
Figured you folks might need this.

VFalcone posted...

I like how these topics always devolve into the same exact BS back and forth almost immediately at post #2, every single time.

The actual topic/current event is never discussed

Because there's nothing credible to discuss. Just unproven claims being repeated in many different ways and demanding others to be brainless and believe it.

TCs whole gimmick is the same as the grifters. Act like hes sharing with the public something amazing, heavily implying aliens but not directly saying it, to 5 seconds later act like that's not what he's doing, to 5 seconds later to in various ways defend the possibility of aliens visiting. With the huge takeaway being, no proof to the whistleblower claims, any looming scandal or whatever claim in the sources he posts.

Think of it like the countless articles claiming voter fraud but doesn't directly claim the election was stolen from Trump. Those type of articles pander to those who want to believe the election was stolen by pointing at election fraud cases that did actually happen. In reality Any fraud that occured wasn't enough to change the election but people who share articles that fraud happened, the articles tend to pussyfoot on the wording to feed into a wild conspiracy Trump won, without actually saying the election wasn't actually stolen.

WingsOfGood posted...

Any phenomenon that would accomplish same thing works

Which would still be science and technology more advanced than humans. Because again, thats how science and advancement in technology is always done.

RyukSan posted...

Because there's nothing credible to discuss. Just unproven claims being repeated in many different ways and demanding others to be brainless and believe it.

TCs whole gimmick is the same as the grifters. Act like hesitating something amazing, heavily implying aliens, to 5 seconds later act like that's not what he's doing, to 5 seconds later to in various ways defend the possibility of aliens visiting. With the huge takeaway being, no proof.

Please flush the toilet after youve finished posting verbal diarrhea

KitKats posted...

Please flush the toilet after youve finished posting verbal diarrhea

Should take your own advice.

Until you have actual proof to the articles, sources, and whistleblowers being posted on the regular, I rest my case.

RyukSan posted...

Because there's nothing credible to discuss. Just unproven claims being repeated in many different ways and demanding others to be brainless and believe it.

TCs whole gimmick is the same as the grifters. Act like hes sharing with the public something amazing, heavily implying aliens but not directly saying it, to 5 seconds later act like that's not what he's doing, to 5 seconds later to in various ways defend the possibility of aliens visiting. With the huge takeaway being, no proof to the whistleblower claims, any looming scandal or whatever claim in the sources he posts.

Think of it like the countless articles claiming voter fraud but doesn't directly claim the election was stolen from Trump. Those type of articles pander to those who want to believe the election was stolen by pointing at election fraud cases that did actually happen. In reality Any fraud that occured wasn't enough to change the election but people who share articles that fraud happened, the articles tend to pussyfoot on the wording to feed into a wild conspiracy Trump won, without actually saying the election wasn't actually stolen.

There isn't much anyone who actually believes in it can do besides wait for the next news to come out. It's a developing story after all.

About a week ago I posted Chuck Schumer's full Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023 amendment that passed Senate which is probably the only truly serious thing about this UFO development that actually happened and it was the same thing there too.

I don't think anyone actually read that document. I mean, I haven't read it all either because it's long as shit but still. That amendment is very very serious.

It's too bad Congress is on vacation now so we have to wait until September for actual updates on the story. The most that'll come out until that will likely be kinda pointless articles like in the OP that retread the same info (or lack of info)

Shadow_Don posted...

Which would still be science and technology more advanced than humans. Because again, thats how science and advancement in technology is always done.

it would not mean that in any other area than the thing being discussed

it doesn't mean they have more advanced tech across the board

WingsOfGood posted...

it doesn't mean they have more advanced tech across the board

But the tech relating specifically to travel would be more advanced than ours. Which means that it wouldn't make sense that we are shooting them down.

If you can move faster than light then how can a missile hit you?

VFalcone posted...

There isn't much anyone who actually believes in it can do besides wait for the next news to come out. It's a developing story after all.

There's isn't much, and there's no doubt there never will be much.

This is as much a developing story as Trump worlds election fraud to be a developing story. With stories still pandering to widespread election fraud without deliberately claiming Trump lost. I can only imagine the congressional hearings for election fraud if MAGA controlled both houses.

Or lets look at a recent congressional hearings concerning "the Biden Crime family" with Hunter and the hearings with claims trying to connect Joe Biden.

It's going to stay a "developing story" as long as the grift can stay alive.

christians hate this

RyukSan posted...

There's isn't much, and there's no doubt there never will be much.

This is as much a developing story as Trump worlds election fraud to be a developing story. With stories still pandering to widespread election fraud without deliberately claiming Trump lost. I can only imagine the congressional hearings for election fraud if MAGA controlled both houses.

Or lets look at a recent congressional hearings concerning "the Biden Crime family" with Hunter and the hearings with claims trying to connect Joe Biden.

It's going to stay a "developing story" as long as the grift can stay alive.

*flush*

AOC participated in the hearing and is taking it seriously

ultimate_reaver posted...

christians hate this

I have no idea how Christians feel as I'm not Christian.

But it's not just Christians or religious people not just believing this.

KitKats posted...

*flush*

AOC participated in the hearing and is taking it seriously

AOC participating doesn't make it credible lol

You liking who participates in a congressional hearing doesn't make something credible.

RyukSan posted...

AOC participating doesn't make it credible lol

*flush*

You literally compared her congressional work to bogus trump election fraud claims

Guess I need to flush your verbal diarrhea for you

KitKats posted...

*flush*

You literally compared her congressional work to bogus trump election fraud claims

Guess I need to flush your verbal diarrhea for you

Given that you think the fallacy of appealing to authority means something is remotely true, you should start taking your own advice. You sound no different than Trump supporters who believe if Trump or Jim Jordon said it, it must be true or credible.

AOC participating does not make it credible nor should one mindlessly believe proof is there because AOC, Trump, the Pope, or anyone just says so.

Shadow_Don posted...

But the tech relating specifically to travel would be more advanced than ours. Which means that it wouldn't make sense that we are shooting them down.

If you can move faster than light then how can a missile hit you?

related to travel

but you started an argument with me saying user claiming human civilization would equate to a caveman and I asked for proof

RyukSan posted...

Because there's nothing credible to discuss. Just unproven claims being repeated in many different ways and demanding others to be brainless and believe it.

Yeah. The hearings revealed nothing. Three high-ranking people testified; two people confirmed that unidentified phenomenons have been observed by most pilots. The other witness claimed there were facilities holding organic lifeforms, but said this was all secondhand information and he hadn't seen it personally and couldn't provide evidence.

What we know about UFOs and aliens are the same as it was before.

RyukSan posted...

Given that you think the fallacy of appealing to authority means something is remotely true, you should start taking your own advice. You sound no different than Trump supporters who believe if Trump or Jim Jordon said it, it must be true or credible.

AOC participating does not make it credible nor should one mindlessly believe proof is there because AOC, Trump, the Pope, or anyone just says so.

You sure do jump the gun a lot and make stuff up to argue about, I never appealed to authority or done any of this stuff youre breathlessly rambling about with trump supporters.

*flush!*

Hayame_Zero posted...

Yeah. The hearings revealed nothing. Three high-ranking people testified; two people confirmed that unidentified phenomenons have been observed by most pilots. The other witness claimed there were facilities holding organic lifeforms, but said this was all secondhand information and he hadn't seen it personally and couldn't provide evidence.

What we know about UFOs and aliens are the same as it was before.

to you

but to congress do you know what was given?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/7/AAefUOAAEuWH.jpg

KitKats posted...

AOC participated in the hearing and is taking it seriously

Oh ok I'm a believer now

KitKats posted...

You sure do jump the gun a lot and make stuff up to argue about, I never appealed to authority or done any of this stuff youre breathlessly rambling about with trump supporters.

*flush!*

You brought up AOC as if bringing up her name automatically means if should be taken seriously without proof.

WingsOfGood posted...

Exactly.
It is crazy the "skeptics" quote unquote cause they believe in aliens more than me are't interested in anything but "hey look at me! I am smarter than everyone else! Blah blah" type of posts when they just prove they can't read articles.

I was referring to this push by the media and certain other people to convince us that aliens are among us.

It's complete bullshit, so why are they doing it? To distract us from the fact that we are living though America's big decline?

aliens are real but they only visit america

RyukSan posted...

There's isn't much, and there's no doubt there never will be much.

This is as much a developing story as Trump worlds election fraud to be a developing story. With stories still pandering to widespread election fraud without deliberately claiming Trump lost. I can only imagine the congressional hearings for election fraud if MAGA controlled both houses.

Or lets look at a recent congressional hearings concerning "the Biden Crime family" with Hunter and the hearings with claims trying to connect Joe Biden.

It's going to stay a "developing story" as long as the grift can stay alive.

You're being unnecessarily hostile and you're incorrect with your first statement. Congress will continue with the whistleblower story when they are back from vacation. House and Senate will resume their investigation. If I remember correctly, Senate will be doing their own hearing in September.

Whether you think it's bullshit or not doesn't change the fact that it's an event that'll happen. Which was my point lol.

Also, the election fraud and Hunter Biden shit doesn't have and never had bipartisan support and isn't acknowledged as actual things by Congress as a whole.

Nukazie posted...

aliens are real but they only visit america

???

My question in all this would be...

Why is it ALL about US? Like assuming that extraterrestrials are visiting the planet, wouldn't there be governments literally all over the world doing exactly the same thing as the US is reportedly doing?

So you either believe every government agency across the world is doing this, or that maybe some of this is being made to seem a little more substantial than it truly is.

Anyway. I'm not here to just continue the same pointless thing again. Have fun WingsOfGood and KitKats

Hornswoggled posted...

I was referring to this push by the media and certain other people to convince us that aliens are among us.

It's complete bullshit, so why are they doing it? To distract us from the fact that we are living though America's big decline?

No.

The answer is much more simple. Money.

People will make documentaries and movies and write nyt best sellers about this. The coverage itself is getting tons of views as well.

RyukSan posted...

You brought up AOC as if bringing up her name automatically means if should be taken seriously without proof.

I brought her up because it reveals the blatantly disingenuous nature of your comparisons to bogus election fraud claims by trump. Youre literally making up stuff to argue.

I think youve broken the toilet now with all this verbal diarrhea.

VFalcone posted...

incorrect with your first statement

I await actual substantiated evidence that proves me wrong.

Not hearsay. Not appeal to your favorite crush or congrressperson. Not pictures or sound quality that's conveniently bad in quality. Actual substantiated proof.

Until then, it has yet to be seen that I'm incorrect. Congress continuing yet another hearing doesn't make something true.

KitKats posted...

brought her up because it reveals the blatantly disingenuous nature of your comparisons to bogus election fraud claims by trump. Youre literally making up stuff to argue.

Which is an appeal to authority or at the least an appeal to someone you think should automatically hold credibility to any claim made.

Bringing up AOC does not provide credibility that the hearing and the claims surrounding it are true. The only thing bringing her up does is appeal to someone you like and demands others to automatically think it must be credible because a Congresswoman you like says so.

RyukSan posted...

Which is an appeal to authority or at the least an appeal to someone you think should automatically hold credibility to any claim made.

Bringing up AOC does not provide credibility that the hearing and the claims surrounding it are true. The only thing bringing her up does is appeal to someone you like and demands others to automatically think it must be credible because a Congresswoman you like says so.

The toilet has overflowed and spilling onto the floor now.

RyukSan posted...

I await actual substantiated evidence that proves me wrong.

Not hearsay. Not appeal to your favorite crush or congrressperson. Not pictures or sound quality that's conveniently bad in quality. Actual substantiated proof.

Until then, it has yet to be seen that I'm incorrect. Congress continuing yet another hearing doesn't make something true.

Yeah and I agree with you. That's literally why all we can do is wait and see what happens with Congress. Aliens aren't likely to just knock on your door.

Congress will investigate, House is expected to pass the amendment. Discussion is pointless until it's over

VFalcone posted...

Yeah and I agree with you. That's literally why all we can do is wait and see what happens with Congress. Aliens aren't likely to just knock on your door.

Congress will investigate, House is expected to pass the amendment. Discussion is pointless until it's over

Which is why I await actual substantiated proof there's anything to this hearing beyond, "just believe."

Not topics, articles and sources that amount to same noise as other unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that demand the public just believe because grifters know how to keep peoples attention or someones favorite mouthpiece believes.

KitKats posted...

The toilet has overflowed and spilling onto the floor now.

You really should have more confidence in yourself, and stop talking about yourself that way.

RyukSan posted...

Which is why I await actual substantiated proof there's anything to this hearing beyond, "just believe."

strawman says hi

I ask why

why are you strawmanning?