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mystic_belmont
08/04/23 1:39:49 PM
#51:


WingsOfGood posted...
prove it

Traveling at or beyond the speed of light requires such a jump in knowledge that it'd be like visiting cavemen.

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AldousIsDead
08/04/23 1:44:04 PM
#52:


Foppe posted...
There are 97 known exoplanets 32.6 light-years or closer to us, the nearest being 4 light-years away, so do we really need faster than light travel to visit other planets?
My dude, we yeeted voyager 2 into space 40 years ago and it's still not even 20 lightminutes away yet.

Space is big.

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Letron_James
08/04/23 1:44:13 PM
#53:


Pikachuchupika posted...
I just want to know the truth. What does the government have to hide?

the energy sources for these vehicles which would probably spell the end of fossil fuels.

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Pikachuchupika
08/04/23 1:47:03 PM
#54:


Letron_James posted...
the energy sources for these vehicles which would probably spell the end of fossil fuels.

Oh shiiiii
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Hornswoggled
08/04/23 1:48:00 PM
#55:


I'm very curious about what the real purpose of all this alien gaslighting is.
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Northlane
08/04/23 1:48:43 PM
#56:


To distract you from Donald Trump's arraignment

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Shamino
08/04/23 1:55:56 PM
#57:


mystic_belmont posted...
Traveling at or beyond the speed of light requires such a jump in knowledge that it'd be like visiting cavemen.

People like the TC lack fundamental knowledge of astrophysics, or they are true believers.
If there was an alien species that could travel faster than light they would have a vast vast knowledge of physics, quantum physics, astrophysics, chemistry, metallurgy, etc.
So what is more plausible, somehow they are terrible pilots or they don't have a cloaking device and they keep getting caught? Or, what people think are aliens are computer malfunctions or other explainable phenomenon?

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neccis
08/04/23 2:02:04 PM
#58:


RyukSan posted...
So you can't actually produce any substantiated evidence that this scandal as you called it has any credibility beyond you wanting it to be.

Similar to how Trumps team operates, if you just chant its credible over and over loud enough and bombard people with unsubstantiated articles and sources, you hope people just believe it.
Well, that's typically what people do to make others believe stuff. That's what's always worked so far. At least people aren't being burned alive to prove it. Oh wait, in some places they are, nevermind on that last bit.

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Foppe
08/04/23 2:03:25 PM
#59:


AldousIsDead posted...
My dude, we yeeted voyager 2 into space 40 years ago and it's still not even 20 lightminutes away yet.

Space is big.
And Breakthrough Starshot would need 20-30 years.

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:06:57 PM
#60:


mystic_belmont posted...
Traveling at or beyond the speed of light requires such a jump in knowledge that it'd be like visiting cavemen.

So no proof?
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:08:58 PM
#61:


Hornswoggled posted...
I'm very curious about what the real purpose of all this alien gaslighting is.

Exactly.
It is crazy the "skeptics" quote unquote cause they believe in aliens more than me are't interested in anything but "hey look at me! I am smarter than everyone else! Blah blah" type of posts when they just prove they can't read articles.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:11:02 PM
#62:


Shamino posted...
People like the TC lack fundamental knowledge of astrophysics, or they are true believers.
If there was an alien species that could travel faster than light they would have a vast vast knowledge of physics, quantum physics, astrophysics, chemistry, metallurgy, etc.
So what is more plausible, somehow they are terrible pilots or they don't have a cloaking device and they keep getting caught? Or, what people think are aliens are computer malfunctions or other explainable phenomenon?

Incorrect.
You are making baseless claims on what an alien lifeform beyond your understanding in your own words would be like.
Prove it.
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Shadow_Don
08/04/23 2:11:56 PM
#63:


WingsOfGood posted...
So no proof?

You need proof that faster than light travel is beyond current human understanding?

but at the same time we also need to take nothing but the testimony of a few people at face value and conclude that either aliens exist and/or grand government psyop conspiracy?

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:12:38 PM
#64:


Shadow_Don posted...
You need proof that faster than light travel is beyond current human understanding?

No.
Prove how alien be like.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:13:20 PM
#65:


Shadow_Don posted...
but at the same time we also need to take nothing but the testimony of a few people at face value and conclude that either aliens exist and/or grand government psyop conspiracy?

Once again someone proven unable to read.

You believe in aliens more than me most likely.
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asdf8562
08/04/23 2:13:53 PM
#66:


WingsOfGood posted...
Exactly.
It is crazy the "skeptics" quote unquote cause they believe in aliens more than me are't interested in anything but "hey look at me! I am smarter than everyone else! Blah blah" type of posts when they just prove they can't read articles.
The burden of proof is on you, not the "skeptics" who don't mindlessly believe the appeal to authority or whatever character you think is automatically credible.

You are claiming this is a big looming scandal, but provided nothing but an article that feeds into we should just believe the whistleblowers claims of some secret intelligent non human life creating science fiction aircrafts that you think the government is hiding or that they should "prove" the whistleblowers claims are false.
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Shadow_Don
08/04/23 2:14:13 PM
#67:


WingsOfGood posted...
No.
Prove how alien be like.

Are you ok?

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UnholyMudcrab
08/04/23 2:14:57 PM
#68:


I am begging you to stop this.

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:16:58 PM
#69:


Shadow_Don posted...
Are you ok?

So you don't comprehend saying "alien civ with FTL must be like x,y,z" is something coming out your butt or you do and are upset I called you on it?

Prove it
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:17:47 PM
#70:


asdf8562 posted...
You are claiming this is a big scandal

????
Citation needed
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HeeathLivesOn
08/04/23 2:20:46 PM
#71:


Shadow_Don posted...
Very unlikely that any of those 97 planets have intelligent life so you're gonna have to go a lot farther than 32 light years.
Eh, we haven't even ruled out life on other planets/moons in our own solar system yet (Mars/Venus/Titan and I think Europa)

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asdf8562
08/04/23 2:21:33 PM
#72:


WingsOfGood posted...
????
Citation needed
I'm sorry, I forgot you gotta keep the grift alive by doing the same thing the grifters you call whistleblowers are doing. I edited my post to say big "looming" scandal.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:23:23 PM
#73:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
I am begging you to stop this.

The news on this should die down pretty soon right?

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:23:59 PM
#74:


asdf8562 posted...
I'm sorry, I forgot you gotta keep the grift alive by doing the same thing the grifters you call whistleblowers are doing. I edited my post to say big "looming" scandal.

Title of thread is not me

It is the article name
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Strider102
08/04/23 2:27:20 PM
#75:


The higher ups want to keep the Asari to themselves.

Bastards

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asdf8562
08/04/23 2:27:20 PM
#76:


WingsOfGood posted...
Title of thread is not me

It is the article name
An article name that you love regurgitating as true as you repeatedly makes threads about UFOs, while defending the credibility of your articles and your whistleblowers.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:28:12 PM
#77:


asdf8562 posted...
An article name that you love regurgitating as true as you repeatedly makes threads about UFOs, while defending the credibility of your articles and your whistleblowers.

Ah now you backpedal

"You love article!"

Give me the citation I asked for
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asdf8562
08/04/23 2:28:57 PM
#78:


WingsOfGood posted...
Ah now you backpedal

"You love article!"

Give me the citation I asked for

asdf8562 posted...
I'm sorry, I forgot you gotta keep the grift alive by doing the same thing the grifters you call whistleblowers are doing. I edited my post to say big "looming" scandal.

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Heineken14
08/04/23 2:29:07 PM
#79:


HeeathLivesOn posted...

Eh, we haven't even ruled out life on other planets/moons in our own solar system yet (Mars/Venus/Titan and I think Europa)


Life intelligent/capable enough to visit Earth? Yes we have.

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:29:29 PM
#80:


So I never said it.

Why did you lie then?
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Shadow_Don
08/04/23 2:29:53 PM
#81:


HeeathLivesOn posted...
Eh, we haven't even ruled out life on other planets/moons in our own solar system yet (Mars/Venus/Titan and I think Europa)

The life they are talking about potentially existing within our solar system isn't the kind of life that would be flying around in space ships.

WingsOfGood posted...
So you don't comprehend saying "alien civ with FTL must be like x,y,z" is something coming out your butt or you do and are upset I called you on it?

Prove it

Wtf are you even talking about? All anybody said was ftl travel was beyond human understanding. Not sure how you took that to then demand we show you evidence of what a ftl capable civilization would look like. That makes no sense.

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:31:57 PM
#82:


mystic_belmont posted...
Traveling at or beyond the speed of light requires such a jump in knowledge that it'd be like visiting cavemen.


Shadow_Don posted...
All anybody said was ftl travel was beyond human understanding. Not sure how you took that to then demand we show you evidence of what a ftl capable civilization would look like. That makes no sense.


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Shadow_Don
08/04/23 2:33:43 PM
#83:


Those two posts don't conflict with each other at all.

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Amakusa
08/04/23 2:34:46 PM
#84:


I just love how this topic devolved into deflecting physics is believing aliens.

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:34:48 PM
#85:


Shadow_Don posted...
Those two posts don't conflict with each other at all.

To assume it would be like visiting caveman is assuming what aliens would be like.
You cannot.
Humans could easily have invented things aliens never even imagined of.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:35:28 PM
#86:


Amakusa posted...
I just love how this topic devolved into deflecting physics is believing aliens.

I don't believe in aliens.
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HeeathLivesOn
08/04/23 2:36:03 PM
#87:


Heineken14 posted...
Life intelligent/capable enough to visit Earth? Yes we have.
Yeah that part is true. No doubt that even if there was life in those places they would be primitive.

Anyways, if any alien race visited here they'd have substantially better technology than we have and we'd be at their mercy. Lots of these conspiracies show inconsistencies in the quality of alien technology and their actions here on Earth tbh.

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mystic_belmont
08/04/23 2:37:45 PM
#88:


WingsOfGood posted...
Humans could easily have invented things aliens never even imagined of.

Such as what, chemical propulsion, the use of atomic energy for weapons?

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:39:07 PM
#89:


HeeathLivesOn posted...
Anyways, if any alien race visited here they'd have substantially better technology than we have and we'd be at their mercy.

This is an unprovable and baseless assumption.
It generally comes from lack of exploratory thinking such that you can only see such developments arise the same way we might come to them.

Since we don't even know how we could ever do FTL travel, to assume for instance these aliens must have invented computers before FTL is out of a buttocks.
How do they do it? Who knows! But computer like our MUST be involved.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:40:09 PM
#90:


mystic_belmont posted...
Such as what, chemical propulsion, the use of atomic energy for weapons?

Pizza, gunpowder to make any statements is assuming way too much
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mystic_belmont
08/04/23 2:44:10 PM
#91:


WingsOfGood posted...
Pizza, gunpowder to make any statements is assuming way too much

Yeah, if there is anything a spaceship capable of faster than light travel would be afraid of, it's gunpowder.

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:45:01 PM
#92:


mystic_belmont posted...
Yeah, if there is anything a spaceship capable of faster than light travel would be afraid of, it's gunpowder.

Afraid of? I was commenting on humans being able to invent stuff aliens did not.
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mystic_belmont
08/04/23 2:46:22 PM
#93:


WingsOfGood posted...
Afraid of? I was commenting on humans being able to invent stuff aliens did not.

And that would fascinate aliens, because?

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
08/04/23 2:46:59 PM
#94:


Only a moron believes all this ufo crap going on right now.
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:47:28 PM
#95:


mystic_belmont posted...
And that would fascinate aliens, because?

Because they are aliens and not just a human like you thinking from human frame of reference
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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:48:40 PM
#96:


KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Only a moron believes all this ufo crap going on right now.

So what state do you live in and what party did you vote for?

Your answer will be immensely fun.
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mystic_belmont
08/04/23 2:49:24 PM
#97:


WingsOfGood posted...
Because they are aliens and not just a human like you thinking from human frame of reference

What makes you think they are aliens, and not humans from the future or another dimension?

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WingsOfGood
08/04/23 2:50:52 PM
#98:


mystic_belmont posted...
What makes you think they are aliens, and not humans from the future or another dimension?

I don't think anything. My point was to not assume so much.

But then humans from the future would be interested in the past would they not? We would 100% go to the past if we could time travel.
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Shadow_Don
08/04/23 2:51:47 PM
#99:


WingsOfGood posted...
To assume it would be like visiting caveman is assuming what aliens would be like.
You cannot.

Its not an assumption to say that a civilization with ftl travel would be more advanced than us. Its just a fact.

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VFalcone
08/04/23 2:53:30 PM
#100:


I like how these topics always devolve into the same exact BS back and forth almost immediately at post #2, every single time.

The actual topic/current event is never discussed
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