Board 8 > Wallz Plays Every NSO Game

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For Gradius one of the big things to learn is which levels you should use Laser and which you should use Double Shot. The moai stage is at least twice as hard if youre not using Double. And sometimes when you die its more important to rush for an Option than to get some of the other powerups. Source: I 1CCd the arcade version

NES version has some cheats and level skips too if you want, though most of them have unusual criteria to use

Game #13 - Tennis (Nintendo, 1984)
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Final time: 5:07

6-2, 4-6, 6-2

I finally won a game! I'm not sure what was different, I just actually won the deuces I got to instead of losing them like I usually do. I jumped out to a 4-0 or 5-0 lead in the first set and it felt like my time had come, but then I fell down 0-4 in the second set and thought I had fallen back down to earth and was going to lose. I managed to finish strong though and give myself hope for the last set, which was back and forth at 2-2 before I took 4 in a row to finish the job.

As for the game, I kinda hate it. Sometimes my guy just misses the ball like he has a hole in his racket, and sometimes he turns around for no reason right before he hits the ball so it goes way off to the side. Also, I swear Mario has been bribed because every ball close to the line is in for the opponent and out for me. It's better than soccer but that's the highest praise I can give it.

NES games beaten: 11/65
Total games beaten: 12/217
JP exclusive games beaten: 1/23
Total play time: 62 hours 43 minutes

MZero Game Ranking

Super Mario Bros.
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Adventures of Lolo
Balloon Fight
Ice Hockey
Excitebike
Ice Climber
Mario Bros.
Baseball
Donkey Kong
Tecmo Bowl
Tennis
Soccer

When I first tried Gradius I never got past the parts in the first stage that shoot rocks up at you.

The part I struggled with was a part where some semi large ship comes at you shooting three large rock like things in different directions consistently. They also move towards you at greater speed than yours and can take many hits. Then several of them come in a row.

If your speed is high I don't think it's much of a problem to dodge things. Just don't die once lol

My speed seemed slower than theirs. Probably was about the same. I hope to give it another go in the coming days.

This challenge is not dead I've just been distracted for a bit

Yeah I haven't had a lot of time either.

Time is beginning to free up after yesterday, though I spent all of yesterday catching up on sleep lol.

I have been stuck enough on Gradius that I think I will start Metroid.

Metroid is a good breather even if choosing another scooter wasn't maybe the smartest.

I have played a bit more Gradius too, it is still ridiculously hard for me to complete.

Oh man I looked it up and the part I reached is the final part

Did you get to the closing door

I beat Super Mario Land 2. It was really good I thought. Now Im playing Super Mario 64 and about 30 stars in. Im at Big Boos Haunt and have yet to do the first Bowser level lol.

I tried getting the through the jet stream star in JRB and I couldnt :( Ive done it before without metal cap but after trying to unsuccessfully for 10 minutes I just said screw it and gave up. Going for 120 stars obviously.

Its not an NSO game obviously but Sunshine will be an interesting one to revisit. I know its reputation is generally less than glowing and I havent played it in about 20 years.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Oh man I looked it up and the part I reached is the final part

You can do it!

WazzupGenius00 posted...

Did you get to the closing door

I just jammed straight into it

wallmasterz posted...

I beat Super Mario Land 2. It was really good I thought. Now Im playing Super Mario 64 and about 30 stars in. Im at Big Boos Haunt and have yet to do the first Bowser level lol.

I tried getting the through the jet stream star in JRB and I couldnt :( Ive done it before without metal cap but after trying to unsuccessfully for 10 minutes I just said screw it and gave up. Going for 120 stars obviously.

Its not an NSO game obviously but Sunshine will be an interesting one to revisit. I know its reputation is generally less than glowing and I havent played it in about 20 years.

Are you back to just playing Mario games?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Are you back to just playing Mario games?

No, Im going to get back to playing other NSO games too. Possibly after 64 and before Sunshine. But the Mario games are short and comforting so they seemed a good way to get back into gaming. Assuming its a while from now, I may play SML2 and 64 again when you and MZero get around to them too.

Good to be back after 1.5 month hiatus of playing nothing.

Ctes has beaten Gradius

So it finally happened. This was probably the game I struggled the most with so far (although that 1 hour of Baseball where I couldn't hit the ball sucked way more). It should be said the time spent is also because I have had some of my most busy weeks here in October and on top of that was put into a mafia game I had signed up for in early August and then forgot about because it didn't happen.

Overall the experience was pretty decent. It's difficult especially before you understand how to go from different abilities. Game is borderline impossible if you get far without good power ups too, this wasn't very clear in-game to me. For it's time it's pretty impressive obviously with a lot of room to improve. Other than some of the crappy sports games that might as well not count, this was my first new experience in this project.

Super Mario Bros
The Legend of Zelda
Baloon Fight
Gradius
Mario Bros
Donkey Kong
Ice Hockey
Ice Climber
Soccer
Tennis
Excitebike
Tecmo Bowl
Baseball

Congrats ctes! This one has been haunting you for a while, glad to see you persisted. Whats next, carrying on with Metroid?

I did play a bit of Metroid yesterday. I have gotten the Ice Beam.

I considered Lost Levels or Ghost n Goblins next though maybe something less challenging would be good after Graidus lol. This is just getting on with the Mario franchise of which there is a lot of things or picking the oldest remaining of the first 20 games on there.

Maybe knocking out Pro Wrestling or something first. Also depends on what you guys feel like.

I tried to see if I could find a list of games there by original release date and not NSO release date, which I couldn't, but I guess something like Donkey Kong Jr would be the oldest remaining, without having looked too carefully.

Yeah, the Famicom launch games were Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr, and Popeye

The my next batch of NES games to choose from would be:

Metroid
Donkey Kong Jr.
Lost Levels
Pro Wrestling
Ghost n Goblins

I personally feel like going by chronological order is kind of a bad idea in a project like this but I'm also not one trying to beat everything anyway (because there's a lot of bad sports/arcade games that I'm not going to touch ha ha)

at any rate here's a listing the nes nso games by year (with the japanese release date coming first if it's sooner, since I'm watching through a video project of all the famicom releases chronologically anyway)

1983
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros.
Baseballl

1984
Tennis
Pinball
Donkey Kong 3
Xevious
Clu Clu Land
Excitebike

1985
Balloon Fight
Ice Climbers
Soccer
Wrecking Crew
Super Mario Bros
City Connection
Ninja Jajamaru-kun

1986
Twinbee
Dig Dug 2
Mighty Bomb Jack
Gradius
Ghosts n Goblins
Star Soldier
Volleyball
Babel/Mystery Tower
Solomon's Key
Mappy Land
Zelda
Lost Levels
Metroid
Kid Icarus
Pro Wrestling
Kung Fu Heroes
Daiva Saga 6

1987
Rygar
Punchout
Zelda 2: Adventure of Link

1988
Blaster Master
Super Mario Bros 2 (US)
Super Mario Bros 3
Ninja Gaiden
vs. Excitebike
Super Dodge Ball
Ice Hockey

1989
River City Ransom
Tecmo Bowl
Adventures of Lolo (US)
Mother
Double Dragon 2: The Revenge

1990
Crystalis
SCAT
Shadow of the Ninja
that Kunio Field Day game
Startropics
Journey to Sillius
The Immortal

1991
Yoshi
NES Open Golf
Vice: Project Doom
Eliminator Boat Duel

1992
Nightshade
Fire n Ice

1993
Kirby's Adventure
Joy Mech Fight

Mr_Crispy posted...

I'm watching through a video project of all the famicom releases chronologically anyway)

Were going to need you to share this, good sir

https://www.youtube.com/@RndStranger/featured

he's almost finished with the project, and will wrap up all the cartridge releases in a couple weeks.

there's no US/PAL only NES games since it's only covering Japanese famicom games and it's also missing the famicom disc system games (besides ones that got cartridge releases later like Zelda) because he's counting it as a separate system, but he's planning on going back to do a series for all the fds games at a later point.

Thank you very much. I want to check that out.

Really thought you were gonna say Chrontendo

Mr_Crispy posted...

I personally feel like going by chronological order is kind of a bad idea in a project like this but I'm also not one trying to beat everything anyway (because there's a lot of bad sports/arcade games that I'm not going to touch ha ha)

I think doing it entirely wouldn't be great but for some genres it might be nice since it's harder to go the other way if you've just gotten used to something.

Anyway, list is really nice. Thanks for providing it!

I've been doing some good progress in Pokemon TCG

I've been distracted playing Super Mario Wonder and Pokemon. Some new games dropped recently. Yay going backwards!

GB:
Castlevania Legends

NES:
Devil World
Mysterious Murasame Castle

I really need to get back into the groove

If only we started this back when NSO launched!

I randomly beat Super Mario World just because

Also I have beaten two dungeons in Zelda 1

MZero posted...

I randomly beat Super Mario World just because

I do this somewhat often.

But whenever I play it for this project first place will probably be cemented for the entire thing lol.

I'm not sure how a leaderboard for SMW would work, unless we go by time

Anyway I've collected all the Triforce pieces and just need to go kill Ganon

MZero posted...

I'm not sure how a leaderboard for SMW would work, unless we go by time

No I just meant in my ranking. I can see why it was unclear.

Game #15 - The Legend of Zelda (Nintendo, 1986)
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Final time: 7:09

I know a lot of people like this game and even claim it's their favorite in the series. Honestly though I think this game is really, really bad. The open world concept is kind of neat and innovative at the time, but it's terribly designed. Those screens where you get stuck until you do the right combination of screen changes? Absolutely terrible. Who thought those were a good idea? Why isn't there any sort of indication of which walls are bombable or which trees are burnable? I don't like handholding any more than the next guy, but at least something to make you think "hey there's something unusual here" but no, you just have to bomb every wall in the dungeons.

Then there's the enemies. They have no discernible patterns so you just kind of have to guess where they're going, and they don't have attack animations so all they have to do is bump into you to damage you, which sucks. This is especially annoying with those knight guys who you have to hit in the back. If they were at least trying to attack you instead of wandering around aimlessly you can figure out the right time to attack, but they can just turn whenever and hit you.

And what's the deal with Ganon? Why is he invisible? And if you touch him while he's invisible it damages you, which is so dumb. You can kind of tell where is he based on where the fireballs come from, but it's still ridiculous.

I could go on and on, but basically I think this game is kinda cheeks. I'm a big fan of the Zelda series, so I guess the one good thing I can say is that it spawned a great series that gave me a ton of enjoyment... later on.

NES games beaten: 12/65
Total games beaten: 14/217
JP exclusive games beaten: 1/23
Total play time: 71 hours

MZero Game Ranking

Super Mario World
Super Mario Bros.
Pokemon Trading Card Game
Adventures of Lolo
Balloon Fight
Ice Hockey
The Legend of Zelda
Excitebike
Ice Climber
Mario Bros.
Baseball
Donkey Kong
Tecmo Bowl
Tennis
Soccer

I didn't do an update for SMW but it slaps and will probably be number 1 for a long time

awww thats sad

Where does your ranking go from good to bad?

Also what are you thinking to play next?

I'd say Lolo is good and Excitebike is bad, with Balloon Fight, Ice Hockey, and Zelda being kind of in between depending on how I'm feeling. My write-up on Zelda was pretty harsh, but I held it to a high standard based on reputation.

I think I'll try Gradius and Metroid and then maybe take a break from NES and play some Game Boy or something lol

Anything in particular on Game Boy?

Ctes has beaten Metroid

First Metroid is good by most part but there are some aspects that just don't feel polished enough, promise is definitely there. Fortunately I happen to know that they do get better, at least on SNES.

Super Mario Bros
The Legend of Zelda
Baloon Fight
Metroid
Gradius
Mario Bros
Donkey Kong
Ice Hockey
Ice Climber
Soccer
Tennis
Excitebike
Tecmo Bowl
Baseball

I am unsure about what to do next other than still progressing Pokemon TCG. I might just do Lost Levels and then whatever MZero wants to play on Game Boy after that.

Not sure, whatever I'm in the mood for at the time, I guess? Maybe Kirby or Link's Awakening

Yeah, I mostly ask because I find it enjoyable to tackle games at the same time, at least new and/or less fun experiences. I think the first Kirby is about half an hour long only so that would probably be in one go.

Yeah I get it, sorry I fell behind but I'm working on getting caught back up haha

I beat the first two levels of Gradius so far. I am using the continue code though, it's in the game so it's fair game imo

Yeah no worries. And you're not really behind with TCG and Lolo played.

Agreed.

Zelda is pretty player friendly, probably as player friendly as you can get in the era it came out in since it's still probably not that long after Tower of Druaga's successful but infamous completely nonsensical player hostile esoteric bullshit.

Like if you want to see what it was like back then you could play Atlantis no Nazo or Mighty Bomb Jack. (...Do not play Atlantis no Nazo. Just don't.)

Mr_Crispy posted...

Zelda is pretty player friendly, probably as player friendly as you can get in the era it came out in since it's still probably not that long after Tower of Druaga's successful but infamous completely nonsensical player hostile esoteric bullshit.

Like if you want to see what it was like back then you could play Atlantis no Nazo or Mighty Bomb Jack. (...Do not play Atlantis no Nazo. Just don't.)

yeah Zelda is good for its time, and most of the issues I have with it are products of its era. I know there's much worse from the NES days though

Beat level 3 of Gradius

so far my only major complaint is that enemies can come from behind you. You can't shoot backwards so that seems unfair. Also I was just there 3 seconds ago where did that enemy come from

Sometimes when you go to the top or bottom of the screen to shoot the turrets or collect a powerup, another one will just zoom in from the left side and kill you and it's really frustrating