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Lairen
08/01/23 11:12:21 AM
#51:


I think Automata is overated as hell. But its been like $20 new forever and its amazing at that price.

It had a GOTY which is weird cause it has like 1 dlc and also i preferred the original case.

And replicant is great yet not overrated. I liked replicants added story from the enemies perspective when playing after the first ending.

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AnsestralRecall
08/01/23 11:14:10 AM
#52:


It's definitely a slow starting game, but once you get into the swing of things there is no slowing down.

It has one of the most satisfying endings in any game ever imo
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Lairen
08/01/23 11:17:35 AM
#53:


It more or less has 3 character playthroughs. I thought the 2nd playthrough (9s) just didnt add enough while the 3rd character finally continues the story.

I also thought the ending was just ok. Its like they ran out of villains. I mean theres 2 good villains but theyre not really there later and the game runs out of steam without them imo.

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Nok_Su_Kow
08/01/23 11:21:22 AM
#54:


It gets more intriguing after second playthrough. I was in the same boat TC.
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Xenogears15
08/01/23 1:55:29 PM
#55:


AnsestralRecall posted...
It's definitely a slow starting game, but once you get into the swing of things there is no slowing down.

It has one of the most satisfying endings in any game ever imo

I would hardly call the normal and bad endings satisfying. Normal is absolutely unsatisfying. Bad ending is super fucking depressing, with how long and drawn out 9S' death is. Only the true ending is actually satisfying, but boy does it hit all the right notes.

One of the few times a game moved me to tears, the other being A Little Misfortune and Xenogears when I was a kid.

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XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX
08/01/23 1:57:46 PM
#56:


Play through until ending D, it gets better and better even if it seems like you're treading old ground with the 9S run for a bit. I liked 9s' route most personally

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ANort175
08/01/23 1:58:16 PM
#57:


It's a good game, I remember loving that one skill where your character would disappear for a moment and then slash everything in an area around them, you could charge it up to hit big groups of enemies at once. Felt like it was ripped straight from an anime, loved it.

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Xenogears15
08/01/23 1:58:40 PM
#58:


XxX_6GAMING9GOKU_XxX posted...
Play through until ending D, it gets better and better even if it seems like you're treading old ground with the 9S run for a bit. I liked 9s' route most personally

9S' route (or the second half of it) is where shit gets real.

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Pikachuchupika
08/01/23 2:00:25 PM
#59:


Story and music is good. It's the gameplay that gets really repetitive near the end. I wasn't really into the bullet hell either. That shit belongs in a shmup.
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Prestoff
08/01/23 2:03:50 PM
#60:


It's not a 10/10 game, but it's a 8-9/10 type of game mostly for the experience. Amazing graphics, a fucking amazing ost (the strongest point imo), atmosphere, solid gameplay (even though it can get repetitive, had to switch weapons constantly for me to not get bored with), etc. With that said, I can fully understand from both angles why someone would give it a 10/10 and why someone wouldn't enjoy it.

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Garioshi
08/01/23 2:29:56 PM
#61:


Xenogears15 posted...
Xenogears
fucking WHEN

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Xenogears15
08/01/23 3:25:21 PM
#62:


Garioshi posted...
fucking WHEN

When what?

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s0nicfan
08/01/23 3:30:42 PM
#63:


Route A - 7/10 action game
Route B - 5/10 action game
Route C/D - 9/10 action game
Route E - 10/10 a one of a kind masterpiece of an ending that needs to be experienced, ideally without spoilers, at least once.

The game could have used more complex enemy behaviors or a resistances system to motivate players to level up any weapon other than the starting weapons, because there are an unbelievably cool number of weapon and chip combinations that produce incredibly combo videos and are just completely unnecessary to play the game at any difficulty.

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Xenogears15
08/01/23 4:04:55 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Route A - 7/10 action game
Route B - 5/10 action game
Route C/D - 9/10 action game
Route E - 10/10 a one of a kind masterpiece of an ending that needs to be experienced, ideally without spoilers, at least once.

That pretty sussinctly sums the endings up, yeah.

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WingsOfGood
08/01/23 4:07:31 PM
#65:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Oh shit it's the aliens from Metal Slug!

And the naked orgy-born android had a boyfriend now.

Edit: and defeating the gay androids unlocked fast travel. Finally >_>

Holy moly you barely played the game AT ALL before you vomitted this ignorant hot take trash opinion of a thread

Smh

Be ashamed
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AnsestralRecall
08/01/23 5:26:27 PM
#66:


Xenogears15 posted...
I would hardly call the normal and bad endings satisfying. Normal is absolutely unsatisfying. Bad ending is super fucking depressing, with how long and drawn out 9S' death is. Only the true ending is actually satisfying, but boy does it hit all the right notes.

One of the few times a game moved me to tears, the other being A Little Misfortune and Xenogears when I was a kid.

true, i did specifically mean the true ending, but could have specified
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Kim_Seong-a
08/01/23 6:19:11 PM
#67:


WingsOfGood posted...
Holy moly you barely played the game AT ALL before you vomitted this ignorant hot take trash opinion of a thread

Smh

Be ashamed

I had like 6 hours under my belt when I made the topic. >_>

Also this game is *really* confident in its little hackerman minigames if they think I'm ever going to play arcade mode <_<

...and Ending T best ending lmao


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Slaya4
08/01/23 6:32:52 PM
#68:


Imagine saying One Piece is garbage after only watching 10 episodes

Imagine saying Breaking Bad is garbage after only watching the 1st season.

Imagine saying Automata is bad only playing 1 hour of it.

Broseph literally turned the screen and started complaining.

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Lairen
08/01/23 6:35:39 PM
#69:


You have to think its perfect or sucks. Sorry. Just thinking its pretty good but overrated doesnt qualify.

And also you have to act like replicant doesnt exist.

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ArsGoetia
08/01/23 6:45:38 PM
#70:


wanderingshade posted...
How about you loop the game first, dawg.

beat it thrice
game is pseudo philosophical tripe
tbh it reminds me of when all the "intellectual" necklords started extolling nietzsche after xenosaga came out
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FelineCyborg
08/01/23 6:55:26 PM
#71:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Totally unrelated tangent but, crafting systems based on random loot-drops can kiss my ass.

Amen

I actually haven't played much by Platinum but their reputation seemed to be like, masters of action games. >_>

they mainly have that reputation because they made good games when they were clover studios and bayonetta was decent.

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Irony
08/01/23 6:55:51 PM
#72:


Who's alt

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wanderingshade
08/01/23 6:57:22 PM
#73:


ArsGoetia posted...
beat it thrice
game is pseudo philosophical tripe
tbh it reminds me of when all the "intellectual" necklords started extolling nietzsche after xenosaga came out

okay

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Kim_Seong-a
08/02/23 6:44:14 AM
#74:


"You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B, aren't you?"

Damn this game got meta

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Kim_Seong-a
08/02/23 7:57:46 AM
#75:


TFW you try to write a thoughtful critique of how society creates its own objects of worship but you end up just writing Weekend at Bernies

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Jiek_Fafn
08/02/23 8:11:00 AM
#76:


Lairen posted...
It more or less has 3 character playthroughs. I thought the 2nd playthrough (9s) just didnt add enough while the 3rd character finally continues the story.

I also thought the ending was just ok. Its like they ran out of villains. I mean theres 2 good villains but theyre not really there later and the game runs out of steam without them imo.
This was pretty much my take on it. Second playthrough was a chore, but I enjoyed everything else.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/03/23 6:09:22 AM
#77:


9S is a very mature and stable individual.

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TetsuoS2
08/03/23 6:23:15 AM
#78:


story is fine, soundtrack is fantastic, gameplay is witcher 3 trash tier.

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kurdt032
08/03/23 6:57:31 AM
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It's alright. The music is great.

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JCoconut
08/03/23 6:59:54 AM
#80:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
This is just a regular open world action rpg.

Travel from quest marker to quest marker ticking boxes off the chore list while admiring the beautiful scenery, orgasmic ost and 2B's ass. Also it turns into Nanostray sometimes.
This. It's dumb

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spikethedevil
08/03/23 7:29:54 AM
#81:


No accounting for bad taste.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/03/23 7:40:11 AM
#82:


The game turned into a light novel.

If these red heads weren't cute I'd be more upset.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/03/23 8:01:20 AM
#83:


2B lends a hand

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DuuuDe14
08/03/23 8:09:39 AM
#84:


Game of the Generation

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Xenogears15
08/03/23 8:16:20 AM
#85:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
The game turned into a light novel.

If these red heads weren't cute I'd be more upset.

Devola and Popola? I hate that Taro tried to redeem them after the original Nier. I understand that they and the Shadowlord were actually the good guys from the first game, but still. Nier, his daughter/sister, and the people of that village got fucked over by them hard.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/03/23 10:46:18 AM
#86:


So you can buy achievements, lmao.

Totally forgot about Self Destruct. Set it off as a meme in a new game. Ending U best ending.

Also unlocked ending E by accident trying to see 9S's ending. Hardest final boss of any JRPG, lol.

....anyyyywayyyys

Really nice story. I liked it. Well worth the time to complete. From a practical standpoint the game loops feels kinda gimmicky since afaik there's no in-universe mechanism for time resetting, the second route is just a director's cut of the first, and the third is just...the next part of the story lol.

But they help hammer home the whole bittersweet struggle of existence thing the game was going for, I guess. >_>

Xenogears15 posted...
Devola and Popola? I hate that Taro tried to redeem them after the original Nier. I understand that they and the Shadowlord were actually the good guys from the first game, but still. Nier, his daughter/sister, and the people of that village got fucked over by them hard.

Oh, had no idea the games were hard connected like that. Only remember hearing that Automata takes place thousands of years after the other Nier/Drakengard games. Might have to play Replicant sometime just to see more of the story. >_>

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s0nicfan
08/03/23 10:52:04 AM
#87:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Oh, had no idea the games were hard connected like that. Only remember hearing that Automata takes place thousands of years after the other Nier/Drakengard games. Might have to play Replicant sometime just to see more of the story. >_>

Replicant has the better story, although the game itself, even the remake, is a pretty major downgrade from automata in terms of gameplay. The levels are smaller, they don't change as much, the enemies are spongier, the weapon and move variety is weaker, the side quests are a lot more tedious, and the gimmick with the ending isn't quite as compelling. You're also required to do more to get the true ending.

Replicant has an equally good soundtrack, equally good visuals, better characters, the side quests do have more meaningful stories associated with them, and completing the first route is more satisfying then route a in automata.

Overall, as somebody who also started with automata, if you liked the story at all I would highly recommend playing replicant. Just go in knowing that the game is going to be less fun moment to moment so you might want to plan for some breaks.

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Xenogears15
08/03/23 11:14:10 AM
#88:


Kim_Seong-a posted...


Oh, had no idea the games were hard connected like that. Only remember hearing that Automata takes place thousands of years after the other Nier/Drakengard games. Might have to play Replicant sometime just to see more of the story. >_>

Do yourself a favor and watch an LP for the story instead. The gameplay does NOT hold up. Find one that does the Nier Dad playthrough, not the Nier brither playthrough. Somehow, the story hits harder that way.

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BakonBitz
08/03/23 12:12:55 PM
#89:


Speaking of NieR, Yoko Taro had a based reaction to being paid on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/yokotaro/status/1687107142770429952?s=20
"If you pay, you might get money, sounds like an amazing scam."

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s0nicfan
08/03/23 12:24:09 PM
#90:


Yoko Taro has TWO f2p gacha games on the mobile market, so I dunno how much he should be talking about "paying for a chance at a reward."

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dave_is_slick
08/03/23 12:25:08 PM
#91:


Xenogears15 posted...
Do yourself a favor and watch an LP for the story instead. The gameplay does NOT hold up. Find one that does the Nier Dad playthrough, not the Nier brither playthrough. Somehow, the story hits harder that way.
Nah, play it.

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s0nicfan
08/03/23 12:26:50 PM
#92:


dave_is_slick posted...
Nah, play it.

Also don't do Nier dad. It helps the dynamic between him and his daughter/sister, but it makes another key character relationship weird and creepy.

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spanky1
08/03/23 12:30:37 PM
#93:


I tried so hard to like this game and I just couldn't do it.

One of those situations where it feels like the whole world is gaslighting me.

I just don't understand how people find the story or characters interesting.

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Xenogears15
08/03/23 1:16:27 PM
#94:


s0nicfan posted...
Also don't do Nier dad. It helps the dynamic between him and his daughter/sister, but it makes another key character relationship weird and creepy.

Who?

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Lairen
08/03/23 1:18:10 PM
#95:


Xenogears15 posted...
Who?

Did you play the game? Theres like 5 characters in it and he has literally one romance.

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Xenogears15
08/03/23 1:19:15 PM
#96:


Lairen posted...
Did you play the game? Theres like 5 characters in it and he has literally one romance.

Do you mean Kain?

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Lairen
08/03/23 1:20:06 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Do you mean Kain?

Literally who else.......

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KajeI
08/03/23 1:21:07 PM
#98:


The Nier remake they put out a bit ago is absolutely worth playing, the old one was the one you could just watch a LP for.

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Xenogears15
08/03/23 1:21:46 PM
#99:


Lairen posted...
Literally who else.......

Because I don't remember it. Nor would I have found it creepy, either.

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Squall28
08/03/23 1:23:25 PM
#100:


I kinda want to replay this now.

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