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AceMos
07/31/23 10:16:32 PM
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he commits mass genocide all over wither or not he likes the food a planet offers him

he gets to decide if a entire species is allowed to live or not if they fit his definitions of worthy

its basically eugenics

all of the gods of destruction and even zenoh are evil

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SSJKirby
07/31/23 10:17:30 PM
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ok

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BigMeatyClaws
07/31/23 10:18:34 PM
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okay

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bnui_ransder
07/31/23 10:18:46 PM
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Oh.. k

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LinkDaLunatic
07/31/23 10:19:26 PM
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yeah but in dragon ball super, nothing is ever serious and there's no stakes and all the genocidal maniacs are just our best ol pals haha

like freeza! never mind that he's an actual tyrant and we all have personal vendettas against him, he helped us in the tournament thingy so let's just kinda let him hang out in our universe, enslaving races and getting stronger so he can potentially come back and kill us and everyone we love some day. haha wouldn't that be a hoot, oh that freezer, what a guy lmao

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lilORANG
07/31/23 10:21:34 PM
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His name is Bills!

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McMarbles
07/31/23 10:23:17 PM
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Yeah, but theyre like, gods of destruction, so how the hell you gonna punish them?

Its the Diamond Authority all over again. Youre not going to beat them by force.

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YoungMutual
07/31/23 10:24:05 PM
#9:


Why does this need reminding again?

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AceMos
07/31/23 10:25:55 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

what you say is true but im more willing to forgive it do to when it was written

complex redemption arcs and the like where not really a thing in the 80s and early 90s

again its still aborhant that vegeta never faced any punishment for his many many many crimes and sins

just im more willing to over look his crimes do to when it was written

and vegeta was at least recognized as evil unlike beerus

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harley2280
07/31/23 10:27:01 PM
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He's not good or evil. He's a force of nature. It's like calling a tornado evil.

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Priere
07/31/23 10:27:01 PM
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Couldnt anyone just wish those planets back on a whim if they wanted to?

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AceMos
07/31/23 10:27:25 PM
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harley2280 posted...
He's not good or evil. He's a force of nature. It's like calling a tornado evil.
a tornado is not sentient

beerus is

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ButteryMales
07/31/23 10:38:32 PM
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There's a buttload of Dragon Ball characters that were evil. Oolong, Yamcha, Roshi, Blonde Launch, Tien, Chaotsu, Piccolo, Vegeta, 17, and 18.

Edit: Fat Buu and technically Kid Buu.
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AceMos
07/31/23 10:40:15 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
17, and 18.
where never evil in the main timeline

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ButteryMales
07/31/23 10:44:49 PM
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Debatable.
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A_Good_Boy
07/31/23 10:45:18 PM
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AceMos posted...
a tornado is not sentient

beerus is
He's sentient but he's still more a less a force of nature. The spiritual hierarchy of the multiverse places gods of destruction very near to the top of the hierarchy. Whatever benevolence that may exist and be embodied by the various gods and spiritual entities within the spirit world (such as the kais, the grand kais, and the various supreme kais) all pay deference to the god of destruction, who reports directly to the omniversal king that is directly above them. They operate with a mandate to sow destruction across their respective universes, and if they didn't then someone else would instead.

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harley2280
07/31/23 10:45:58 PM
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AceMos posted...
a tornado is not sentient

beerus is
So is a cat, but it still doesn't have a morality.

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AceMos
07/31/23 10:48:12 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
He's sentient but he's still more a less a force of nature. The spiritual hierarchy of the multiverse places gods of destruction very near to the top of the hierarchy. Whatever benevolence that may exist and be embodied by the various gods and spiritual entities within the spirit world (such as the kais, the grand kais, and the various supreme kais) all pay deference to the god of destruction, who reports directly to the omniversal king that is directly above them. They operate with a mandate to sow destruction across their respective universes, and if they didn't then someone else would instead.
that still makes him and zenoh evil they have power they use that power to hurt others thus they are evil

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Arcanine2009
07/31/23 10:49:51 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
There's a buttload of Dragon Ball characters that were evil. Oolong, Yamcha, Roshi, Blonde Launch, Tien, Chaotsu, Piccolo, Vegeta, 17, and 18.

Edit: Fat Buu and technically Kid Buu.
Oolong Yamacha, and Roshi evil?

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Nemu
07/31/23 10:50:22 PM
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They've done a horrible job explaining the purpose of the balance in terms of cosmology, but destruction is a necessary force, however arbitrarily it is enacted.
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Unknown5uspect
07/31/23 10:52:18 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

That's because the planet is his food

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A_Good_Boy
07/31/23 10:52:49 PM
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AceMos posted...
that still makes him and zenoh evil they have power they use that power to hurt others thus they are evil
We have no idea if the destruction is arbitrary or necessary. All we know is that the gods of destruction are supposed to be increasing the average strength of their various universes by sowing destruction, somehow.

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AceMos
07/31/23 10:55:03 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
We have no idea if the destruction is arbitrary or necessary. All we know is that the gods of destruction are supposed to be increasing the average strength of their various universes by sowing destruction, somehow.
why do they need to do this at all is the thing

the idea that destruction is needed for creation is nonsense

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ButteryMales
07/31/23 10:56:11 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Oolong, Yamacha, and Roshi evil?
Oolong - blackmailer and kidnapper Yamcha - hijacker Roshi - sexual assaulter.
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WellKnownNomad
07/31/23 10:56:35 PM
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Ok, are we suppose to feel bad or something?

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Baha05
07/31/23 10:57:04 PM
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He really isnt evil more a necessity to the universe

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AceMos
07/31/23 10:57:27 PM
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Baha05 posted...
He really isnt evil more a necessity to the universe
how how is he a necessity

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ArsGoetia
07/31/23 11:00:03 PM
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being evil is cool
its fun to do bad things
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FortuneCookie
07/31/23 11:00:10 PM
#31:


Doesn't matter. He's still a god among the gay furry community.
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AceMos
07/31/23 11:01:18 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

hell galactus actually hates having to eat planets

he was once cured of it even

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jumi
07/31/23 11:01:58 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Oolong Yamacha, and Roshi evil?

Oolong and Yamcha were bad guys when they first appeared. Roshi was not, but he could not ride kinto-un anymore because he was not "pure of heart." That and he's fucking creepy.

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WellKnownNomad
07/31/23 11:03:23 PM
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Master Roshi abuses women, of course hes evil

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Baha05
08/01/23 12:03:28 AM
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AceMos posted...
how how is he a necessity
Destroying things is a natural progression?

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ssjevot
08/01/23 12:06:00 AM
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In Dragon Ball there is an established afterlife and also you can be wished back to life. Dying isn't that big a deal in that universe.

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The_Wheelman1
08/01/23 12:10:00 AM
#39:


There are no truly evil villians in DB Super. Every one just had some tragic backstory that made them do bad things and then they have a change of heart at the end after fighting the heroes.

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Ratchetrockon
08/01/23 12:12:45 AM
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at least there is a heaven, hell, and reincarnation in dragonball. hell doesn't even seem that bad either based on filler unless you are someone like Frieza and put in a type of solitary confinement lol.

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_____Cait
08/01/23 12:14:37 AM
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You could say Goku is evil for putting his family in constant danger because he just really loves punching guys.

At least for Beerus, you can say he was born to destroy. Its basically his nature and his job, just like a hurricane only destroys.

Its also an anime for children and they really dont think about deep morality when you can make a character that is a cool cat anumbis thing and sell lots of merch

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nocturnal_traveler
08/01/23 12:25:06 AM
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It's a job. If Beerus isn't destroying things, he isn't doing his job. He just uses food as an deciding factor, since the concepts of good and evil are subjective.

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evilpresident
08/01/23 12:26:56 AM
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He's a cat, cant they just spray him with a water bottle when he acts up?

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Zikten
08/01/23 12:30:38 AM
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Why doesn't Goku just kill Beerus?
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nocturnal_traveler
08/01/23 12:31:56 AM
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Zikten posted...
Why doesn't Goku just kill Beerus?
Isn't Beerus still stronger at the moment? Besides, why would Goku kill someone that's helping him get stronger and find strong people to fight?

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Tyranthraxus
08/01/23 12:32:53 AM
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Galactus has had so much fucking bullshit tacked on to him post hoc to justify the question "why doesn't someone just fucking kill him?" And when they still failed to justify it they had to pull Abraxas out of his ass and be like "See, this is what happens if you kill Galactus. The only way to not have Abraxas is to not kill Galactus."

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MrMallard
08/01/23 12:34:10 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I saw a fan comic recently where Vegeta got cancelled on Twitter over this lmao

Everyone else in his family just privates their twitter but Vegeta keeps engaging the twitter horde and gets addicted to trolling. Eventually he's not cancelled any more and he misses the attention.
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Tyranthraxus
08/01/23 12:35:33 AM
#48:


MrMallard posted...
I saw a fan comic recently where Vegeta got cancelled on Twitter over this lmao

Everyone else in his family just privates their twitter but Vegeta keeps engaging the twitter horde and gets addicted to trolling. Eventually he's not cancelled any more and he misses the attention.

Is there a part 2 where Goku gets more followers so Vegeta contacts Babidi who runs a bot farm to artificially boost his follower count?

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Null_Gain
08/01/23 12:38:18 AM
#49:


LinkDaLunatic posted...
yeah but in dragon ball super, nothing is ever serious and there's no stakes and all the genocidal maniacs are just our best ol pals haha

like freeza! never mind that he's an actual tyrant and we all have personal vendettas against him, he helped us in the tournament thingy so let's just kinda let him hang out in our universe, enslaving races and getting stronger so he can potentially come back and kill us and everyone we love some day. haha wouldn't that be a hoot, oh that freezer, what a guy lmao

They bring back Frieza for the ToP and like the first thing he does is wipe out a planet of unfortunate aliens. And that's because it's literally Beerus's job to prevent stuff like that

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nocturnal_traveler
08/01/23 12:45:04 AM
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Null_Gain posted...
They bring back Frieza for the ToP and like the first thing he does is wipe out a planet of unfortunate aliens. And that's because it's literally Beerus's job to prevent stuff like that
Aren't the things he destroys at his own discretion? Like, Xenoh couldn't care less what planets the gods of destruction choose to destroy.

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