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ViewtifulJoe
07/26/23 2:39:03 PM
#51:


I typed this into Youtube.
People like to make videos about this but very few of them put any research in.
One has just told me with a straight face that Tabuu from SSBB was tougher than DMD Vergil 3.
Edit: King Boo from Luigi's Mansion 1 is apparently stronger than DMD Vergil.
And Ornstein and Smough are ahead all of the above.

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ellis123
07/26/23 2:46:57 PM
#52:


ViewtifulJoe posted...
I typed this into Youtube.
People like to make videos about this but very few of them put any research in.
One has just told me with a straight face that Tabuu from SSBB was tougher than DMD Vergil 3.
People that do these rankings are a circle jerk that are based on whomever did the list first. Hence why if you've heard of the boss/played the game it is absolutely not the hardest boss.

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Xenogears15
07/26/23 2:54:42 PM
#53:


gikos posted...


man that was the salt on my wounds to him were just another random battle monsters but to us he was our worst boss fight

At least Fight for Survival is one of the best RPG battle themes ever.

Long live Shoji Meguro.

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ViewtifulJoe
07/26/23 2:59:58 PM
#54:


ellis123 posted...
People that do these rankings are a circle jerk that are based on whomever did the list first. Hence why if you've heard of the boss/played the game it is absolutely not the hardest boss.
Oh I believe that.
That or they just pick some popular characters and exaggerate their difficulty like Pokemon fans do to Cynthia or lots of people do to Dark Souls.
They're probably trying to goad me into commenting and correcting their lies.

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DarthDemented
07/26/23 3:00:50 PM
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Turbam posted...
Mike Tyson
I'd say Mr dream but he's just a pallette swapped version of tyson

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NeonTentacles
07/26/23 3:04:42 PM
#56:


Demi Fiend in Digital Devil Saga

I beat him but took a long time and a lot of tries >_>

EDIT: I see it was already mentioned lol

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Westernwolf4
07/26/23 3:06:10 PM
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brestugo posted...
My younger brother also regularly beat Tyson. I never did. He still likes to bring this up once or twice a year...

Great game though.

My brother also could not beat Tyson, and I still hold that over his head too.

Of course, he managed to beat Contra without the Konami Code, something I could never manage. Given my limited gaming skills, I really should not talk crap to anyone


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ArtiRock
07/26/23 3:08:41 PM
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Music_Rock_Cat posted...
Eternal Champion at the end of Eternal Champions you literally have to fight him 8 times in one round or restart the whole process after losing said round.
This. Honestly, one of the hardest fights that comes to mind.

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PowerOats
07/26/23 3:12:42 PM
#59:


What was the AV gimmick?
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CreekCo
07/26/23 3:17:01 PM
#60:


Demi Fiend from DDS 1 probably

Probably a bit lower on the list for 10 FS Sauruin from Romancing SaGa, Awakening Jewel Beast (same game) and Knights of the Round/Endboss from Unlimited Saga.

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Kuuko
07/26/23 3:26:07 PM
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Digital Devil Saga 2 Satan is probably "harder" than Digital Devil Saga 1 Demi-fiend. Demi-fiend is more random and probably more likely to kill you with timely crits or statuses, but if you do the Pixie MP stall strategy then it's a lot more manageable and there's a lot less to keep track of. If you do it "legit" with Null Sleep to dodge Gaea Rage and all then it's super rough.

DDS2 Satan doesn't really have any cheesy strats - just a long drawn out fight where you need to keep track of a bunch of things and you lose if you mess anything up. Keep track of his turn order rotation so you know when to attack and what to defend with, your buffs so you can constantly reapply them every rotation, have a calculator up so you keep track of his phase pushes, and more. And even doing everything perfect he can still just kill you 45 minutes in. But I still think it's less random than legit Demi-fiend.

CassandraCroft posted...
Night Terror Soul Calibur III.

Can't be ringed out as he has wings to fly back in, hits like billy-o and blocks like nothing on Earth. The only character I could do it with was Cassandra as she had this weapon called The Dark Blade which could penetrate the block.
Yeah I cheesed him with Sophitia's get-up special. For some reason the AI in that game sucks at defending certain moves so you can loop attacks like that over and over. Without cheese it's pretty rough.

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Crimsoness
07/26/23 3:28:27 PM
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Elmdore in Riovannes in FFT because you're saddled with a seemingly suicidal npc that can't die or you fail

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 3:30:18 PM
#63:


Crimsoness posted...
Elmdore in Riovannes in FFT because you're saddled with a seemingly suicidal npc that can't die or you fail

I must have spent 6 hours on that fight trying to learn ultima only to find out ramza can't learn ultima in that fight.

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gikos
07/26/23 3:32:36 PM
#64:


another boss i had issue was yiazmat from FF12 but it was less hard and more annoying how big his HP pool was

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Evthean
07/26/23 3:33:14 PM
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I remember Penance and Yiazmat being difficult

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CreekCo
07/26/23 3:33:32 PM
#66:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I must have spent 6 hours on that fight trying to learn ultima only to find out ramza can't learn ultima in that fight.

He cant? Thats rough. I forgot where I learned it.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 3:34:55 PM
#67:


CreekCo posted...
He cant? Thats rough. I forgot where I learned it.

Yeah he needs the final tier squire abilities to be able to learn it and they're not unlocked at that point in the story.

In WotL you can recruit Luso and Luso can learn it at that point and then teach it to ramza in the next fight.

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loafy013
07/26/23 3:37:46 PM
#68:


Naves7 posted...
Hardest I've come across is last boss in drakengard 3, if you can even consider that a boss. Never beat it.
I recently beat this game. After a bit, could regularly get up to Two's section without help but then it felt like I hit a wall. Even using video guides to sync up the button prompts, it took a few hours for me to get past it. I'm not sure what would have happened if I had gotten through it straight up, only to get screwed by the final note that happens during the ending dialogue.

For anybody curious, this is the final boss of a hack 'n slash game with a few rail shooter segments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXTI88FGuvI&t=200s

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HudGard
07/26/23 3:42:55 PM
#69:


For me personally, the most attempts I ever had against a boss was Fume Knight from DS2.

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Torgo
07/26/23 3:45:32 PM
#70:


The problem with a question like this... Is whether or not difficulty is intentional and requires skill, or born out of broken mechanics and poor balancing.

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Questionmarktarius
07/26/23 3:48:11 PM
#71:


Hiroshi Yamauchi

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 3:48:41 PM
#72:


Torgo posted...
The problem with a question like this... Is whether or not difficulty is intentional and requires skill, or born out of broken mechanics and poor balancing.

This is a question about difficulty, not game design. Something designed poorly but difficult is more difficult than something designed well and easy.

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Zergrush80
07/26/23 3:52:49 PM
#73:


6 wing Ethereal Queen from Star Ocean on universal difficulty.her entire move set is almost a one shot killer and than theres her spamming her quick fire aoe supernova that takes up like half of the arena.

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Seaman_Prime
07/26/23 3:54:30 PM
#74:


God Hands Azel, god I hate that guy. What makes it worse is that he is so lame characterwise, just adds salt to the wound
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masterpug53
07/26/23 3:58:28 PM
#75:


Few bosses have grinded my gears quite as hatefully as Chac from Final Fantasy X-2. I seriously doubt I could've ever beaten her without Catnip + Trigger Happy.

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GeminiDeus
07/26/23 3:59:09 PM
#76:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Inbachi

Here's a TAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwa6N7jnm2c
Bullet Hell games are fun to look at but I'll never understand them. Why is your character a space ship fighting a young girl that's 3x your own size, and what the hell are even hit boxes of your ship? They're so tiny since bullets are often going over the wings and other spots. Might as well just make it the size of the actual hit box.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 3:59:41 PM
#77:


masterpug53 posted...
Few bosses have grinded my gears quite as hatefully as Chac from Final Fantasy X-2. I seriously doubt I could've ever beaten her without Catnip + Trigger Happy.
I did most of that dungeon with lady luck. Chac is shit but so is everything else.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 4:01:53 PM
#78:


GeminiDeus posted...
Bullet Hell games are fun to look at but I'll never understand them. Why is your character a space ship fighting a young girl that's 3x your own size, and what the hell are even hit boxes of your ship? They're so tiny since bullets are often going over the wings and other spots. Might as well just make it the size of the actual hit box.

Look at the bottom right corner of that video. The glowing dot there is your hit box. And while I like these games I just can't play at that skill level. Suguri on easy mode is a challenge to me.

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psobro
07/26/23 4:03:26 PM
#79:


AldousIsDead posted...
Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden spring to mind.

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GeminiDeus
07/26/23 4:03:33 PM
#80:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Look at the bottom right corner of that video. The glowing dot there is your hit box. And while I like these games I just can't play at that skill level. Suguri on easy mode is a challenge to me.
Yeah, I actually didn't realize the glowing dot was the hit box until after I posted my message, so my bad.

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Medussa
07/26/23 4:05:11 PM
#81:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The glowing dot there is your hit box.

huh, i never knew that. thanks

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LordFarquad1312
07/26/23 4:07:07 PM
#82:


I4NRulez posted...
She's not even the hardest boss that From has put out lol
I'd be interested to read which ones are harder.

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
07/26/23 4:07:46 PM
#83:


Bullet Hell games are famous for giving players a hit box that in pixels can generally be counted with your two hands if not one.


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ZMythos
07/26/23 4:08:46 PM
#84:


Not hardest, but top 20 at least is Dr. Wily in Mega Man 7.

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Priere
07/26/23 4:09:25 PM
#85:


6 wing Ethereal Queen in Star Ocean 4 on Chaos difficulty.

A mountain of health combined with a party wiping move twice a minute is a real treat. That and there is no OP set up (that i can recall) to make the fight super easy like 5 and 6 had.

It required a lot of management of party members in specific roles or youre done.

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GeminiDeus
07/26/23 4:10:27 PM
#86:


ZMythos posted...
Not hardest, but top 20 at least is Dr. Wily in Mega Man 7.
I love that battle! I used to be so good at it when I was a teenager. It's definitely fun despite its difficulty.

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ThisIsAKnoife
07/26/23 4:10:34 PM
#87:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
I'd be interested to read which ones are harder.

I would argue Sword Saint is harder due to his 4 phases

Maybe Nameless King but I personally thought he wasnt too bad

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07/26/23 4:20:29 PM
#89:


The Angler Fish from Links Awakening

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ProboBum
07/26/23 4:24:33 PM
#90:


Ultimate Chimera from Mother 3. A boss so hard, you can't even fight it, just an instant game over. /s

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bruplex
07/26/23 4:36:58 PM
#91:


Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted...
Bullet Hell games are famous for giving players a hit box that in pixels can generally be counted with your two hands if not one.

This is the right answer. Specifically, I remember the final boss from Mars Matrix giving me fits. It's a solid 3 - 4 minute real-time battle in bullet hell where you can't make any mistakes. Brutal. Ikaruga's hard-mode final boss is just as nuts.

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LordFarquad1312
07/26/23 4:38:10 PM
#92:


ThisIsAKnoife posted...
I would argue Sword Saint is harder due to his 4 phases
Sekiro is much better balanced.

I can probably beat Sword Saint in half an hour after 3 years of not touching the game.

Malenia is bs. Sometimes a Glintplade Phalanx and a Transient Moonlight is enough to stagger her. Sometimes you need another Transient Moonlight. Sometimes she just doesn't stagger after using the entire FP bar using skills .

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SlamVook
07/26/23 4:38:11 PM
#93:


Mundus from Devil May Cry 1 in Dante Must Die difficulty is pretty tough

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Dabrikishaw15
07/26/23 4:40:36 PM
#94:


AldousIsDead posted...
Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden spring to mind.
Yeah it's those two. People got sick trying to beat them

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 4:40:43 PM
#95:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Malenia is bs. Sometimes a Glintplade Phalanx and a Transient Moonlight is enough to stagger her. Sometimes you need another Transient Moonlight. Sometimes she just doesn't stagger after using the entire FP bar using skills .

Here's an analysis of what you're talking about. The tl;dw is that Malenia doesn't play by the rules which means things that you've been doing the whole game suddenly don't work on just her and only her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Vbsr3Ko7M

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Ratchetrockon
07/26/23 4:41:32 PM
#96:


terraria had some bosses that seemed unbeatable to me without specific equipments. so i gonna go with that

havent played it since it came out for ps3 tho so maybe they werent that bad

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Nukazie
07/26/23 4:41:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nGvimrPqXk

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SuperSaiyanTien
07/26/23 4:43:25 PM
#98:


Medussa posted...
my immediate thought was "i don't know, but it'll be some bullet hell bullshit"

One of the hardest I've fought against was Undertale Genocide Sans. That fight is just stupid sometimes.


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Tyranthraxus
07/26/23 4:51:56 PM
#99:


SuperSaiyanTien posted...
One of the hardest I've fought against was Undertale Genocide Sans. That fight is just stupid sometimes.

Sans is basically nothing compared to actual bullet hell.

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Lobinde
07/26/23 4:53:20 PM
#100:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Look at the bottom right corner of that video. The glowing dot there is your hit box. And while I like these games I just can't play at that skill level. Suguri on easy mode is a challenge to me.
To be fair, Suguri's easy mode is really quite hard as far as easy modes go.
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