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dancing_cactuar 07/30/23 10:03:05 PM #201:	Remember how Ghost was at the Battle for Earth and made her grand appearance in the infamous "she's got help" shot in Endgame? Oh wait, you don't because she wasn't actually there, so it should have been literally impossible for G'iah to use that power in the horrible CGI fight since there would have been no DNA to gather at the battle's aftermath? And speaking of the DNA cocktail, I guess you can tell the variations of DNA in dust particles considering how Thanos and his goons were part of that concoction, so I also guess an entire battlefield completely full of dust due to both an army of dusted minions and the destruction of the Avengers HQ was sifted through very thoroughly? Wow this all sounds really fucking stupid the more I describe it. --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:975163398] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Remember how Ghost was at the Battle for Earth and made her grand appearance in the infamous "she's got help" shot in Endgame?Oh wait, you don't because she wasn't actually there, so it should have been literally impossible for G'iah to use that power in the horrible CGI fight since there would have been no DNA to gather at the battle's aftermath? And speaking of the DNA cocktail, I guess you can tell the variations of DNA in dust particles considering how Thanos and his goons were part of that concoction, so I also guess an entire battlefield completely full of dust due to both an army of dusted minions and the destruction of the Avengers HQ was sifted through very thoroughly? Wow this all sounds really fucking stupid the more I describe it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/30/23 10:06:14 PM #202:	dancing_cactuar posted... Remember how Ghost was at the Battle for Earth and made her grand appearance in the infamous "she's got help" shot in Endgame? Oh wait, you don't because she wasn't actually there, so it should have been literally impossible for G'iah to use that power in the horrible CGI fight since there would have been no DNA to gather at the battle's aftermath? And speaking of the DNA cocktail, I guess you can tell the variations of DNA in dust particles considering how Thanos and his goons were part of that concoction, so I also guess an entire battlefield completely full of dust due to both an army of dusted minions and the destruction of the Avengers HQ was sifted through very thoroughly? Wow this all sounds really fucking stupid the more I describe it. There shouldnt even be any dna of thanos and his men. They got dusted by infinity stones which were thorough. Even the ships were dusted. Also ebony maws rings are part of his dna. The harvest may be the dumbest thing in the entire mcu <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975163444] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>dancing_cactuar posted... </cite><quote>Remember how Ghost was at the Battle for Earth and made her grand appearance in the infamous "she's got help" shot in Endgame?Oh wait, you don't because she wasn't actually there, so it should have been literally impossible for G'iah to use that power in the horrible CGI fight since there would have been no DNA to gather at the battle's aftermath? And speaking of the DNA cocktail, I guess you can tell the variations of DNA in dust particles considering how Thanos and his goons were part of that concoction, so I also guess an entire battlefield completely full of dust due to both an army of dusted minions and the destruction of the Avengers HQ was sifted through very thoroughly? Wow this all sounds really fucking stupid the more I describe it.</quote>There shouldnt even be any dna of thanos and his men. They got dusted by infinity stones which were thorough. Even the ships were dusted. Also ebony maws rings are part of his dna. The harvest may be the dumbest thing in the entire mcu</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/30/23 10:52:19 PM #203:	As soon as I saw Thanos, my first thought was that there was no way. But idk, maybe someone brought Infinity War Thanos' beheaded corpse to Earth for some reason lol --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:975164146] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>As soon as I saw Thanos, my first thought was that there was no way.But idk, maybe someone brought Infinity War Thanos' beheaded corpse to Earth for some reason lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 07/30/23 10:58:26 PM #204:	Ghost was a SHIELD agent, I'll give that one a pass. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:975164238] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Ghost was a SHIELD agent, I'll give that one a pass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 07/30/23 11:05:07 PM #205:	Ghost's was probably readily available by other means. She had an entire lab dedicated to her and her condition. Then Hank likely took samples to better treat her after everything settled down. Idk why her sample would be taken and put in the Harvest, but it probably wouldn't have been difficult to get her DNA. Hers should've been on the list instead of a Frost Beast. Then it should've been the one Gravik used during the attack on the president rather than extremis. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:975164332] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Ghost's was probably readily available by other means. She had an entire lab dedicated to her and her condition. Then Hank likely took samples to better treat her after everything settled down. Idk why her sample would be taken and put in the Harvest, but it probably wouldn't have been difficult to get her DNA. Hers should've been on the list instead of a Frost Beast. Then it should've been the one Gravik used during the attack on the president rather than extremis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/30/23 11:06:45 PM #206:	KogaSteelfang posted... Ghost's was probably readily available by other means. She had an entire lab dedicated to her and her condition. Then Hank likely took samples to better treat her after everything settled down. Idk why her sample would be taken and put in the Harvest, but it probably wouldn't have been difficult to get her DNA. Hers should've been on the list instead of a Frost Beast. Then it should've been the one Gravik used during the attack on the president rather than extremis. Like the game of thrones writers, feige forgot ghost wasnt at the battle for earth <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975164360] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>Ghost's was probably readily available by other means. She had an entire lab dedicated to her and her condition. Then Hank likely took samples to better treat her after everything settled down. Idk why her sample would be taken and put in the Harvest, but it probably wouldn't have been difficult to get her DNA. Hers should've been on the list instead of a Frost Beast. Then it should've been the one Gravik used during the attack on the president rather than extremis.</quote>Like the game of thrones writers, feige forgot ghost wasnt at the battle for earth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 07/30/23 11:08:36 PM #207:	What irritates me probably the most aside from War Machine being a Skrull since Civil War is how the president issues a statement at the end of the show that despite it being the type of thing where the status quo of the planet is forever changed and there is no going back, and we even see snippets of that at the end when he's on the phone with Nick Fury, they'll probably just forget about it after Armor Wars. The world is in a situation where the president of the United States issued a statement basically going "we are going to kill all aliens because a group of shapeshifting beings attempted to subvert all of our governments and genocide all of us in turn", people are naturally going to be horrified, scared, angry, all sorts of negative emotions. Nobody will care that there are super chill Skrulls that weren't in on the genocide plan, the public executions we briefly see at the end of the show is the type of thing that would continue for literal years because there is literally no possible way to know whether or not every single Skrull is completely gone from the planet and paranoia from that simply does not dissipate. But they'll just forget about it, just like how the giant marble dude out of the Indian Ocean only has a slight reference in what's essentially a comedy show, how HYDRA got their hands on functioning Pym Particles that can undoubtedly be reverse engineered and has never been mentioned, Mordo's seemingly vanished out of this universe's existence, and the fact that society somehow managed to completely go back to the way it was before 5 years of half a global population wipe. That last one really fucking offends me, they give only the barest of nods every now and then, but when Scott was walking around confused shit looked like several movies happened in between Infinity War and Endgame. --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:975164391] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>What irritates me probably the most aside from War Machine being a Skrull since Civil War is how the president issues a statement at the end of the show that despite it being the type of thing where the status quo of the planet is forever changed and there is no going back, and we even see snippets of that at the end when he's on the phone with Nick Fury, they'll probably just forget about it after Armor Wars. The world is in a situation where the president of the United States issued a statement basically going "we are going to kill all aliens because a group of shapeshifting beings attempted to subvert all of our governments and genocide all of us in turn", people are naturally going to be horrified, scared, angry, all sorts of negative emotions. Nobody will care that there are super chill Skrulls that weren't in on the genocide plan, the public executions we briefly see at the end of the show is the type of thing that would continue for literal years because there is literally no possible way to know whether or not every single Skrull is completely gone from the planet and paranoia from that simply does not dissipate. But they'll just forget about it, just like how the giant marble dude out of the Indian Ocean only has a slight reference in what's essentially a comedy show, how HYDRA got their hands on functioning Pym Particles that can undoubtedly be reverse engineered and has never been mentioned, Mordo's seemingly vanished out of this universe's existence, and the fact that society somehow managed to completely go back to the way it was before 5 years of half a global population wipe. That last one really fucking offends me, they give only the barest of nods every now and then, but when Scott was walking around confused shit looked like several movies happened in between Infinity War and Endgame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/30/23 11:13:14 PM #208:	^I get what youre daying but its just not realistic. Really if you looked at the snap and un-snap that would destroy society, cause huge changes in religion, economy and suicides/depression, maybe near extinction. No director js taking on that burden while making the project in front of them <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975164444] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>^I get what youre daying but its just not realistic. Really if you looked at the snap and un-snap that would destroy society, cause huge changes in religion, economy and suicides/depression, maybe near extinction. No director js taking on that burden while making the project in front of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 07/30/23 11:22:37 PM #209:	Blue_Popo posted... There shouldnt even be any dna of thanos and his men. They got dusted by infinity stones which were thorough. Even the ships were dusted. Also ebony maws rings are part of his dna. The harvest may be the dumbest thing in the entire mcu I mean, I don't think there's any established rules for what happens to blood already spilled from people who get dusted by the Infinity Stones, but still. How would they even be able to tell which blood was from people with powers and which was just from Thanos's foot soldiers who are weaker than a regular Skrull? I get that Super Skrulls are a well-established part of the whole Skrull mythos and they were inevitably going to be a thing once Skrulls were part of the MCU. But was this really the best way they could come up with to do it? Blue_Popo posted... ^I get what youre daying but its just not realistic. Really if you looked at the snap and un-snap that would destroy society, cause huge changes in religion, economy and suicides/depression, maybe near extinction. No director js taking on that burden while making the project in front of them Which should've told them that 5 years passing between snap and un-snap might not have been the best idea. It's better to not use a plot twist at all if you're unwilling to follow through on its inevitable results. --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:975164573] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>There shouldnt even be any dna of thanos and his men. They got dusted by infinity stones which were thorough. Even the ships were dusted. Also ebony maws rings are part of his dna. The harvest may be the dumbest thing in the entire mcu</quote>I mean, I don't think there's any established rules for what happens to blood already spilled from people who get dusted by the Infinity Stones, but still. How would they even be able to tell which blood was from people with powers and which was just from Thanos's foot soldiers who are weaker than a regular Skrull? I get that Super Skrulls are a well-established part of the whole Skrull mythos and they were inevitably going to be a thing once Skrulls were part of the MCU. But was this really the best way they could come up with to do it?Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>^I get what youre daying but its just not realistic. Really if you looked at the snap and un-snap that would destroy society, cause huge changes in religion, economy and suicides/depression, maybe near extinction. No director js taking on that burden while making the project in front of them</quote>Which should've told them that 5 years passing between snap and un-snap might not have been the best idea. It's better to not use a plot twist at all if you're unwilling to follow through on its inevitable results.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 07/31/23 6:09:11 AM #210:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... As soon as I saw Thanos, my first thought was that there was no way. But idk, maybe someone brought Infinity War Thanos' beheaded corpse to Earth for some reason lol Thor's axe was coated in Thanos's blood from the gaping chest wound, maybe they got it off the rag he used to clean it? --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:975167704] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>As soon as I saw Thanos, my first thought was that there was no way.But idk, maybe someone brought Infinity War Thanos' beheaded corpse to Earth for some reason lol</quote>Thor's axe was coated in Thanos's blood from the gaping chest wound, maybe they got it off the rag he used to clean it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/31/23 9:49:52 AM #211:	Does anyone feel the last 4 shoes look cheaper than the first 4 Wandavision, falcon, loki and hawkeye look better than moonknight ms marvel, she hulk and secret invasion <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975169799] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Does anyone feel the last 4 shoes look cheaper than the first 4Wandavision, falcon, loki and hawkeye look better than moonknight ms marvel, she hulk and secret invasion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WellKnownNomad 07/31/23 9:52:21 AM #212:	KogaSteelfang posted... Ghost's was probably readily available by other means. She had an entire lab dedicated to her and her condition. Then Hank likely took samples to better treat her after everything settled down. Idk why her sample would be taken and put in the Harvest, but it probably wouldn't have been difficult to get her DNA. Hers should've been on the list instead of a Frost Beast. Then it should've been the one Gravik used during the attack on the president rather than extremis. Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth? --- "Anime is for jerks" - Jeff Gerstmann <cite>WellKnownNomad posted [p:975169832] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>Ghost's was probably readily available by other means. She had an entire lab dedicated to her and her condition. Then Hank likely took samples to better treat her after everything settled down. Idk why her sample would be taken and put in the Harvest, but it probably wouldn't have been difficult to get her DNA. Hers should've been on the list instead of a Frost Beast. Then it should've been the one Gravik used during the attack on the president rather than extremis.</quote>Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/31/23 9:54:26 AM #213:	Blue_Popo posted... Does anyone feel the last 4 shoes look cheaper than the first 4 Wandavision, falcon, loki and hawkeye look better than moonknight ms marvel, she hulk and secret invasion I havent watched Ms Marvel or She Hulk but I felt that Falcon and the Winter Soldier looked the cheapest of the ones I have watched. <cite>Glob posted [p:975169866] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>Does anyone feel the last 4 shoes look cheaper than the first 4Wandavision, falcon, loki and hawkeye look better than moonknight ms marvel, she hulk and secret invasion</quote>I havent watched Ms Marvel or She Hulk but I felt that Falcon and the Winter Soldier looked the cheapest of the ones I have watched.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/31/23 10:30:52 AM #214:	I thought falcon only looked cheap in thr finale but outside of that it had a variety of locales and good action <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975170391] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>I thought falcon only looked cheap in thr finale but outside of that it had a variety of locales and good action</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/31/23 1:15:49 PM #215:	WellKnownNomad posted... Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/0/AAaA_zAAEtga.jpg <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975171734] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>WellKnownNomad posted... </cite><quote>Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/0/AAaA_zAAEtga.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 07/31/23 11:21:32 PM #216:	WellKnownNomad posted... The good ol time honored tradition of blaming the fans not liking the show and expecting too much https://twitter.com/gamespot/status/1684990115146559488?s=46&t=ujiYouoAdweFb0c3KkSmTg I'd say yes, because otherwise, what the fuck are you doing this for then? --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:975182449] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>WellKnownNomad posted... </cite><quote>The good ol time honored tradition of blaming the fans not liking the show and expecting too muchhttps://twitter.com/gamespot/status/1684990115146559488?s=46&t=ujiYouoAdweFb0c3KkSmTg</quote>I'd say yes, because otherwise, what the fuck are you doing this for then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 07/31/23 11:37:24 PM #217:	i get the idea of fans dont know what they want and some times you need to defy what fans want but there are limits secret invasion did not give anything it was a complete waste of time and just raises questions no one cares about hell it closed off more doors than it opened for future stories --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975182650] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>i get the idea of fans dont know what they want and some times you need to defy what fans wantbut there are limits secret invasion did not give anything it was a complete waste of time and just raises questions no one cares about hell it closed off more doors than it opened for future stories </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 07/31/23 11:38:36 PM #218:	hell before secret invasion i did not even know finding the skrulls a new home was a major storyline i thought it was just an excuse to get captain marvel off earth that was resolved and that while doing that she kinda fell into being a galactic hero --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975182668] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote> hell before secret invasion i did not even know finding the skrulls a new home was a major storylinei thought it was just an excuse to get captain marvel off earth that was resolved and that while doing that she kinda fell into being a galactic hero </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 08/01/23 12:40:33 AM #219:	xlr_big-coop posted... I'd say yes, because otherwise, what the fuck are you doing this for then? Well, it depends on what you mean by "fulfilling their expectations". But when it comes to a minimum level of quality, that is an expectation that they should always be striving to fulfil. And they're clearly not. --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:975183394] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>xlr_big-coop posted... </cite><quote>I'd say yes, because otherwise, what the fuck are you doing this for then?</quote>Well, it depends on what you mean by "fulfilling their expectations". But when it comes to a minimum level of quality, that is an expectation that they should always be striving to fulfil. And they're clearly not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/01/23 12:42:28 AM #220:	Tbh, I just hate the retroactive effect mcu stuff has nowadays. It reminds me of actual comic book twists. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:975183415] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Tbh, I just hate the retroactive effect mcu stuff has nowadays. It reminds me of actual comic book twists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 08/01/23 12:43:05 AM #221:	PiOverlord posted... Tbh, I just hate the retroactive effect mcu stuff has nowadays. It reminds me of actual comic book twists. The only retroactive effect i can think of is skrodey if that really happens pre endgame. Any other examples? <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975183423] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>Tbh, I just hate the retroactive effect mcu stuff has nowadays. It reminds me of actual comic book twists.</quote>The only retroactive effect i can think of is skrodey if that really happens pre endgame. Any other examples?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 08/01/23 12:46:00 AM #222:	Blue_Popo posted... The only retroactive effect i can think of is skrodey if that really happens pre endgame. Any other examples? Fury having the Skrulls support him, and push him up through the ranks of shield instead of him earning it for himself. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:975183455] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>The only retroactive effect i can think of is skrodey if that really happens pre endgame. Any other examples?</quote>Fury having the Skrulls support him, and push him up through the ranks of shield instead of him earning it for himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 08/01/23 12:47:27 AM #223:	KogaSteelfang posted... Fury having the Skrulls support him, and push him up through the ranks of shield instead of him earning it for himself. Ok fine but still secret invasion. He said nowadays implying more titles than this one Theres also fury always having a secret skrull wife. Fury losing his eye cuddling a space cat. Fury saying he made tesseract weapons because of thor even though he already knew of captain marvel/skrull/kree So all fury related stuff but I dont know what else is nowadays <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975183472] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>KogaSteelfang posted... </cite><quote>Fury having the Skrulls support him, and push him up through the ranks of shield instead of him earning it for himself.</quote>Ok fine but still secret invasion. He said nowadays implying more titles than this one Theres also fury always having a secret skrull wife. Fury losing his eye cuddling a space cat. Fury saying he made tesseract weapons because of thor even though he already knew of captain marvel/skrull/kreeSo all fury related stuff but I dont know what else is nowadays</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/01/23 1:01:25 AM #224:	Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:975183621] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 08/01/23 1:06:05 AM #225:	PiOverlord posted... Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points. Tbh i may agree with you and i wasnt a fan of that and loki the show in general (still much better than secret invasion) <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975183669] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points.</quote>Tbh i may agree with you and i wasnt a fan of that and loki the show in general (still much better than secret invasion)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 08/01/23 1:37:29 AM #226:	PiOverlord posted... Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points. It's more that a version of Kang decided that those were the pre-destined point, and any timeline where things went differently was "wrong". --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:975183935] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points.</quote>It's more that a version of Kang decided that those were the pre-destined point, and any timeline where things went differently was "wrong".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 08/01/23 2:25:03 AM #227:	WellKnownNomad posted... Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth? During the montage at the beginning of the first Thor, it showed them invading what may have been Norway. Then Odin rocked up, and kicked their shit sideways. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:975184293] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>WellKnownNomad posted... </cite><quote>Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth?</quote>During the montage at the beginning of the first Thor, it showed them invading what may have been Norway. Then Odin rocked up, and kicked their shit sideways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/01/23 3:27:59 AM #228:	PiOverlord posted... Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points. The characters still made those choices, it doesn't change anything. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:975184732] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>Maybe unpopular opinion as I know many like the show, but I'm not really big on Loki's entire premise. It took the actions of the heroes and turned all the movies into some pre-destined points.</quote>The characters still made those choices, it doesn't change anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 08/01/23 10:29:52 AM #229:	Blue_Popo posted... The only retroactive effect i can think of is skrodey if that really happens pre endgame. Any other examples? Ironically, Captain Marvel had the most instances of this, between Carol Danvers being the inspiration behind 'Avengers,' and the big mystery behind Fury losing his eye being that a mutant space kitty gave him a widdle scratchy. And people generally disliked or even hated those despite them being pretty innocuous in the grand scheme of things (and arguably not even fitting the base definition of 'retcon'). So it's natural that people would be repulsed by a full-blown retcon with as many gaping holes in it as Skrodey existing all the way back to Civil War. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:975188259] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>The only retroactive effect i can think of is skrodey if that really happens pre endgame. Any other examples?</quote>Ironically, Captain Marvel had the most instances of this, between Carol Danvers being the inspiration behind 'Avengers,' and the big mystery behind Fury losing his eye being that a mutant space kitty gave him a widdle scratchy. And people generally disliked or even hated those despite them being pretty innocuous in the grand scheme of things (and arguably not even fitting the base definition of 'retcon'). So it's natural that people would be repulsed by a full-blown retcon with as many gaping holes in it as Skrodey existing all the way back to Civil War.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 08/01/23 10:56:02 AM #230:	masterpug53 posted... Ironically, Captain Marvel had the most instances of this, between Carol Danvers being the inspiration behind 'Avengers,' and the big mystery behind Fury losing his eye being that a mutant space kitty gave him a widdle scratchy. And people generally disliked or even hated those despite them being pretty innocuous in the grand scheme of things (and arguably not even fitting the base definition of 'retcon'). So it's natural that people would be repulsed by a full-blown retcon with as many gaping holes in it as Skrodey existing all the way back to Civil War. Yes but captain marvel is hardly nowadays <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:975188656] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite><quote>Ironically, Captain Marvel had the most instances of this, between Carol Danvers being the inspiration behind 'Avengers,' and the big mystery behind Fury losing his eye being that a mutant space kitty gave him a widdle scratchy. And people generally disliked or even hated those despite them being pretty innocuous in the grand scheme of things (and arguably not even fitting the base definition of 'retcon'). So it's natural that people would be repulsed by a full-blown retcon with as many gaping holes in it as Skrodey existing all the way back to Civil War.</quote>Yes but captain marvel is hardly nowadays</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 08/02/23 7:08:03 PM #231:	Ive been reading that because of the Russia/Ukraine war large parts of this show had to be rewritten and reshot. and all I ask myself is why the f* would you even pick Russia as the major player here. Black Panther had Wakanda announce itself to the world and tensions throughout phase 3 and especially 4 have shown the US and Wakanda are getting worse. why wasnt this show about the US vs Wakanda. it makes so much more sense and then has the strength of so many more potential Skrull replacements that arent Rhodey. --- Currently Playing: Grounded & Megaman Battle Network Legacy Collection Volume 1 <cite>Xerun posted [p:975216681] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Ive been reading that because of the Russia/Ukraine war large parts of this show had to be rewritten and reshot. and all I ask myself is why the f* would you even pick Russia as the major player here. Black Panther had Wakanda announce itself to the world and tensions throughout phase 3 and especially 4 have shown the US and Wakanda are getting worse. why wasnt this show about the US vs Wakanda. it makes so much more sense and then has the strength of so many more potential Skrull replacements that arent Rhodey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 08/02/23 7:09:56 PM #232:	WellKnownNomad posted... Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth? At least one of them did It was kind of a big deal back in Phase 1 <cite>TMOG posted [p:975216710] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>WellKnownNomad posted... </cite><quote>Now that I think about it, did Frost Giants ever come to earth?</quote>At least one of them didIt was kind of a big deal back in Phase 1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 08/02/23 10:42:03 PM #233:	Xerun posted... Ive been reading that because of the Russia/Ukraine war large parts of this show had to be rewritten and reshot. and all I ask myself is why the f* would you even pick Russia as the major player here. Black Panther had Wakanda announce itself to the world and tensions throughout phase 3 and especially 4 have shown the US and Wakanda are getting worse. why wasnt this show about the US vs Wakanda. it makes so much more sense and then has the strength of so many more potential Skrull replacements that arent Rhodey. Imagine if Okoye became the Black Panther in Wakanda Forever instead of Shuri, so then in Secret Invasion they'd reveal Shuri was replaced by a Skrull after Endgame so the Skrulls would have access to that precious Vibranium and Wakandan science they're keeping away from the rest of the world. With this replacement, they'd now be in a position to secretly smuggle it to other Skrulls across the globe that are in on the plan and whatnot. And then after Wakanda Forever happens and Namor's invasion proves that not only is Wakanda not as sturdy as previously thought but the neighboring kingdom who attacked them also has Vibranium, and the ability to recreate the heart shaped herbs is in right in the hands of Wakanda/the Skrulls, this would be one of the inciting incidents to start accelerating the plan to make sure no more wild cards are thrown on the table. And given how Everett Ross is revealed to be a Skrull Infiltrator in Secret Invasion, it would make sense why he'd be giving Wakanda classified info in the movie, so their golden goose remains intact. --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:975220582] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Xerun posted... </cite><quote>Ive been reading that because of the Russia/Ukraine war large parts of this show had to be rewritten and reshot. and all I ask myself is why the f* would you even pick Russia as the major player here. Black Panther had Wakanda announce itself to the world and tensions throughout phase 3 and especially 4 have shown the US and Wakanda are getting worse. why wasnt this show about the US vs Wakanda. it makes so much more sense and then has the strength of so many more potential Skrull replacements that arent Rhodey.</quote>Imagine if Okoye became the Black Panther in Wakanda Forever instead of Shuri, so then in Secret Invasion they'd reveal Shuri was replaced by a Skrull after Endgame so the Skrulls would have access to that precious Vibranium and Wakandan science they're keeping away from the rest of the world. With this replacement, they'd now be in a position to secretly smuggle it to other Skrulls across the globe that are in on the plan and whatnot. And then after Wakanda Forever happens and Namor's invasion proves that not only is Wakanda not as sturdy as previously thought but the neighboring kingdom who attacked them also has Vibranium, and the ability to recreate the heart shaped herbs is in right in the hands of Wakanda/the Skrulls, this would be one of the inciting incidents to start accelerating the plan to make sure no more wild cards are thrown on the table. And given how Everett Ross is revealed to be a Skrull Infiltrator in Secret Invasion, it would make sense why he'd be giving Wakanda classified info in the movie, so their golden goose remains intact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/02/23 10:51:27 PM #234:	Xerun posted... why wasnt this show about the US vs Wakanda. I've not seen the second Black Panther, but I'd find it a little hard to swallow that Wakanda wouldn't be able to pick up on a Skrull in their midst --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:975220733] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Xerun posted... </cite><quote>why wasnt this show about the US vs Wakanda.</quote>I've not seen the second Black Panther, but I'd find it a little hard to swallow that Wakanda wouldn't be able to pick up on a Skrull in their midst </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 08/02/23 10:54:30 PM #235:	pegusus123456 posted... I've not seen the second Black Panther, but I'd find it a little hard to swallow that Wakanda wouldn't be able to pick up on a Skrull in their midst They dont know that Skrulls exist. And Skrulls mimic the DNA of people completely so a body scan wouldnt help them --- Currently Playing: Grounded & Megaman Battle Network Legacy Collection Volume 1 <cite>Xerun posted [p:975220783] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>I've not seen the second Black Panther, but I'd find it a little hard to swallow that Wakanda wouldn't be able to pick up on a Skrull in their midst</quote>They dont know that Skrulls exist. And Skrulls mimic the DNA of people completely so a body scan wouldnt help them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 08/02/23 11:06:50 PM #236:	Actually now that I think about it, (spoilers for Black Panther 2) ~~doesn't Ross being in this kind of establish that this takes place before Wakanda Forever? If I remember correctly didn't Okoye break him out of the prison van and take him back to Wakanda at the end?~~ <cite>TMOG posted [p:975220956] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>Actually now that I think about it, (spoilers for Black Panther 2) doesn't Ross being in this kind of establish that this takes place before Wakanda Forever? If I remember correctly didn't Okoye break him out of the prison van and take him back to Wakanda at the end?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WellKnownNomad 08/02/23 11:58:03 PM #237:	So basically the following did a better Secret Invasion story than Secret Invasion: Peacemaker Kamen Rider Kabuto the Zygon Invasion and Zygon Inversion from Doctor Who --- "Anime is for jerks" - Jeff Gerstmann <cite>WellKnownNomad posted [p:975221577] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>So basically the following did a better Secret Invasion story than Secret Invasion:PeacemakerKamen Rider Kabutothe Zygon Invasion and Zygon Inversion from Doctor Who </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/03/23 12:06:19 AM #238:	WellKnownNomad posted... So basically the following did a better Secret Invasion story than Secret Invasion: Agents of SHIELD --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:975221682] in Secret Inv... [t:80519499]...</cite> <quote>WellKnownNomad posted... </cite><quote>So basically the following did a better Secret Invasion story than Secret Invasion:</quote>Agents of SHIELD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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