Current Events > Steven Crowder Accused of Grooming by Employees

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Not even surprised. Dude is a huge piece of shit

Not even surprised. Dude is a huge piece of shit

Uh... am I missing something?

The article says he did this stuff to his staff, who are all adults right? So he is an absolute garbage tier human being, but calling this grooming is a stretch. It's sexual harassment and possibly sexual assault, isn't that bad enough? Do we really need to imply he was doing it to children?

adults can be groomed too, it's usually just called emotional/psychological manipulation instead

Uh... am I missing something?

The article says he did this stuff to his staff, who are all adults right? So he is an absolute garbage tier human being, but calling this grooming is a stretch. It's sexual harassment and possibly sexual assault, isn't that bad enough? Do we really need to imply he was doing it to children?

Is that what he's doing?

Like, I get it, right wingers are guilty of projection all the time, but it really feels like this is trying to fit things into a narrative. He's sexually harassing and bullying his staff, and creating a toxic work environment. We have terminology to describe it.

According to text messages reviewed by the outlet, Crowder sent photos of his genitals to co-workers. He would also allegedly expose his genitals to employees in person so frequently that most of them either laughed uncomfortably or showed outright disgust as a way to give him the attention he sought to as a way to get him to stop.

Uh... am I missing something?

The article says he did this stuff to his staff, who are all adults right? So he is an absolute garbage tier human being, but calling this grooming is a stretch. It's sexual harassment and possibly sexual assault, isn't that bad enough? Do we really need to imply he was doing it to children?

To my knowledge, none of the 5 ex-employees called him a groomer.

"One former Louder with Crowder employee told Mediaite that during his time on the show, he received unsolicited, sexually graphic texts that included photos of Crowders genitalia. Those texts and images were reviewed by Mediaite.

In the moment we dismissed it as sort of frat boy humor. In hindsight, its super creepy and felt groomer-ish, the ex-employee said.

It always felt like childish behavior in the moment that then felt predatory in hindsight, he explained. Like he was always testing peoples comfort levels with that kind of behavior. Because he was the boss though and he had no accountability, it just continued to happen. There was no one trusted to complain to."

That's probably where people are latching onto the word from. Whether he is a groomer or not, that employee at least alleged their experience with Crowder felt like he was behaving like a groomer in a predatory manner towards them anyway. Not a good look either way.

Uh... am I missing something?

The article says he did this stuff to his staff, who are all adults right? So he is an absolute garbage tier human being, but calling this grooming is a stretch. It's sexual harassment and possibly sexual assault, isn't that bad enough? Do we really need to imply he was doing it to children?

Sorry, sending unsolicited dick pics is not "grooming". It's sexual harrassment/assault, but not grooming. The word means nothing now.

Sorry, sending unsolicited dick pics is not "grooming". It's sexual harrassment/assault, but not grooming. The word means nothing now.

so did you fall for the propaganda that only children can be groomed, or are you one of the ones spreading it?

Uh... am I missing something?

The article says he did this stuff to his staff, who are all adults right? So he is an absolute garbage tier human being, but calling this grooming is a stretch. It's sexual harassment and possibly sexual assault, isn't that bad enough? Do we really need to imply he was doing it to children?

Sorry, sending unsolicited dick pics is not "grooming". It's sexual harrassment/assault, but not grooming. The word means nothing now.

so did you fall for the propaganda that only children can be groomed, or are you one of the ones spreading it?

You guys have no idea what grooming means lmao

Some people just feel an impulse to run interference for the alt-right.

I'll admit to having been ignorant of the proper definition.

Does it refer overall to someone manipulating another into a sexual relationship over time (presumably with some significant power differential)?

Some people just feel an impulse to run interference for the alt-right.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is alt-right"

That's not suggesting you are alt-right, just that your comment is akin to running interference for the alt-right.

I'm not conservative nor am I defending Crowder.

It's hard being constantly misunderstood and gaslit by these so-called "tolerant" and "accepting" CEmen

"Everyone who disagrees with me is alt-right"

Some people just feel an impulse to run interference for the alt-right.

You can't fool us, so don't even bother trying.

https://youtu.be/6wHva3JXPh0

Go to 12:25 for an in-depth explanation of what "grooming" actually means. Be prepared, it is NOT an easy watch, especially if you have been abused as a child.

Yes, if you're gonna "well actually," you can manipulate adults and do things that are kinda similar to grooming, but it's nowhere near as scarring or traumatizing as gaining a child's trust so they will be open to sexual acts they are physically not ready for, manipulating them to be afraid to tell other adults or even to think it's their own fault, and leave them horribly psychologically damaged (not to mention physically in many many cases) for the rest of their lives just to make yourself feel good.

It disgusts me that the right wing has coopted this to refer to anything referencing queerness that someone under 18 might see (and they're trying to push the age up until no one can see them) or implying that just letting gay/trans kids be themselves is somehow "grooming" them for sex acts. I hate seeing the word be diluted like this.

So I'm gonna push back when I see anyone help them dilute its meaning, even when they're doing it to demonize someone like Crowder who absolutely is a horrible person and a serial sexual harasser, bully, abusive to his wife... the list goes on and on. But I don't Ike him being called a "groomer."

Some people just feel an impulse to run interference for the alt-right.

Some people just feel an impulse to run interference for the alt-right.

It doesn't even have to be sexual in nature. You can groom a group of people overtime to think and behave a certain way through pressure, gaslighting and disinformation. Some are more susceptible to it than others, and certain settings can make it more successful than others. The ultimate goal of grooming is to get the victim to change their behavior and thought process to prepare for a specific act or series of actions as a return in how much the groomer invested in them.

If you ask me, people like you are helping them with their "groomers are everywhere" bullshit.

https://youtu.be/6wHva3JXPh0

Go to 12:25 for an in-depth explanation of what "grooming" actually means. Be prepared, it is NOT an easy watch, especially if you have been abused as a child.

Yes, if you're gonna "well actually," you can manipulate adults and do things that are kinda similar to grooming, but it's nowhere near as scarring or traumatizing as gaining a child's trust so they will be open to sexual acts they are physically not ready for, manipulating them to be afraid to tell other adults or even to think it's their own fault, and leave them horribly psychologically damaged (not to mention physically in many many cases) for the rest of their lives just to make yourself feel good.

It disgusts me that the right wing has coopted this to refer to anything referencing queerness that someone under 18 might see (and they're trying to push the age up until no one can see them) or implying that just letting gay/trans kids be themselves is somehow "grooming" them for sex acts. I hate seeing the word be diluted like this.

So I'm gonna push back when I see anyone help them dilute its meaning, even when they're doing it to demonize someone like Crowder who absolutely is a horrible bigot AND a serial sexual harasser, bully, abusive to his wife... the list goes on and on. But I don't Ike him being called a "groomer."