Current Events > Steven Crowder Accused of Grooming by Employees

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https://youtu.be/6wHva3JXPh0

Go to 12:25 for an in-depth explanation of what "grooming" actually means. Be prepared, it is NOT an easy watch, especially if you have been abused as a child.

Yes, if you're gonna "well actually," you can manipulate adults and do things that are kinda similar to grooming, but it's nowhere near as scarring or traumatizing as gaining a child's trust so they will be open to sexual acts they are physically not ready for, manipulating them to be afraid to tell other adults or even to think it's their own fault, and leave them horribly psychologically damaged (not to mention physically in many many cases) for the rest of their lives just to make yourself feel good.

It disgusts me that the right wing has coopted this to refer to anything referencing queerness that someone under 18 might see (and they're trying to push the age up until no one can see them) or implying that just letting gay/trans kids be themselves is somehow "grooming" them for sex acts. I hate seeing the word be diluted like this.

So I'm gonna push back when I see anyone help them dilute its meaning, even when they're doing it to demonize someone like Crowder who absolutely is a horrible bigot AND a serial sexual harasser, bully, abusive to his wife... the list goes on and on. But I don't Ike him being called a "groomer."

also ce isn't calling crowder a groomer, that's what his employee called him after presumably being groomed by him.

it is describing the process in which a victim can be conditioned to being more ok with repugnant behavior perpetuated towards them.

The employee said it was "groomerish," which I disagree with, but the article really jumped on that and put it front and center, which I think is gross, and then TC took it one step further and just called it grooming.

There's a reason why I already had them tagged as a conservatroll.

a person can groom their spouse over time to be more tolerant to physical or emotional abuse. grooming isn't describing the actual crime, it is describing the process in which a victim can be conditioned to being more ok with repugnant behavior perpetuated towards them.

a person can groom their spouse over time to be more tolerant to physical or emotional abuse. grooming isn't describing the actual crime, it is describing the process in which a victim can be conditioned to being more ok with repugnant behavior perpetuated towards them.

Let's just call it what it is, manipulation.

If you ask me, people like you are helping them with their "groomers are everywhere" bullshit.

I'll admit to having been ignorant of the proper definition.

Does it refer overall to someone manipulating another into a sexual relationship over time (presumably with some significant power differential)?

Damn Nazis have taken over google with their alt-right definitions:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/3/AAPCn7AAEr15.jpg

Damn Nazis have taken over google with their alt-right definitions:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/3/AAPCn7AAEr15.jpg

It's crazy how CEmen act when ostensibly proven wrong.

Chud buds, a man must be as humble in victory as he is in defeat. You would know this if your fathers had taught you how to be men.

It's crazy how CEmen act when ostensibly proven wrong.

Chud buds, a man must be as humble in victory as he is in defeat. You would know this if your fathers had taught you how to be men.

Lmao when they focus on things like diction or grammar, you know you've won.

gg wp, boys

Sorry, no re

Lmao when they focus on things like diction or grammar, you know you've won.

gg wp, boys

Sorry, no re

Lmao when they focus on things like diction or grammar, you know you've won.

gg wp, boys

Sorry, no re

Back to being on topic, no, this is in no way grooming.

Look, everyone involved is an adult. Report the employer for sexual harassment and if desired, pursue legal action. There's no possibility for "grooming" here.

Come on, guys. Don't just abuse buzzwords because they make someone sound worse.

Look, everyone involved is an adult. Report the employer for sexual harassment and if desired, pursue legal action. There's no possibility for "grooming" here.

Check the definition above the highlighted one, bud.

I love it when reactionaries make fools of themselves.

It's okay to hate Steven Crowder for his s*** actions but you don't need to disingenuously use misleading terms to describe him. The guy already has plenty of ammunition to be used against him.

He exhibited classic grooming patterns. Just because it was a workplace setting to adults and not towards a minor doesn't make his behavior and actions any less than that of a person normalizing their toxicity to seek favors and/or find reciprocation from their victims. Which, fortunately he didn't receive from them that we know of anyway. There is nothing disingenuous or misleading about that.

How is sexually assaulting anybody down playing something? Not following your logic.
Also I'm not deflecting anything? What's Steven Crowder did is still shitty and a crime? It's just not grooming.

That doesn't mean what you think it does in the same way. A politician sitting his son down at his meetings, teaching him the proper dictation and mannerisms to take over his role is grooming, not Steven Crowder slapping his balls against people, that's just sexual harassment. Sure he may have been normalizing it in his work in environment but it's just not grooming.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/6/AAPCn7AAEsCS.jpg

Also me defending a dictionary definition doesn't make mean I oppose social reform or am right-wing/conservative lmao

I think most of y'all know that when people hear someone is a groomer they immediately think someone abused children. That's why you see a bunch of right-wing people trying to associate Lgbt people with being groomers. Everyone knows the connotations and it's a gross misuse in order to slander people.

It's okay to hate Steven Crowder for his shit actions but you don't need to disingenuously use misleading terms to describe him. The guy already has plenty of ammunition to be used against him.

"One former Louder with Crowder employee told Mediaite that during his time on the show, he received unsolicited, sexually graphic texts that included photos of Crowders genitalia. Those texts and images were reviewed by Mediaite.

In the moment we dismissed it as sort of frat boy humor. In hindsight, its super creepy and felt groomer-ish, the ex-employee said.

It always felt like childish behavior in the moment that then felt predatory in hindsight, he explained. Like he was always testing peoples comfort levels with that kind of behavior. Because he was the boss though and he had no accountability, it just continued to happen. There was no one trusted to complain to."

That's probably where people are latching onto the word from. Whether he is a groomer or not, that employee at least alleged their experience with Crowder felt like he was behaving like a groomer in a predatory manner towards them anyway. Not a good look either way.

Not even surprised. Dude is a huge piece of shit

Imagine going to the mat for Steven Crowder. Imagine spending this much time trying to minimize what he did and playing semantics. Why do so many people defend evil?

Imagine going to the mat for Steven Crowder. Imagine spending this much time trying to minimize what he did and playing semantics. Why do so many people defend evil?

The Left: "Steven Crowder is a groomer."

The Right: "The employees aren't children, they're adults. Stop labeling everything as groomer!"

Also The Right: "Transgender people are groomers."

I think most of y'all know that when people hear someone is a groomer they immediately think someone [coerced and] abused children. That's why you see a bunch of right-wing people trying to associate Lgbt people with being groomers.

Because they're also evil themselves.