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darkmaian23 07/20/23 5:27:38 PM #1:	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/you-can-help-stop-these-bad-internet-bills It has been the plan since the beginning to try and put all of these together into one super-bill because none of them are popular. Originally, the plan was to have a "think of the children" week or something and pass them then, but now it seems Congress wants to stick them all into something that needs to pass for different reasons. The article doesn't mention which, which I admit is a weakness, but it frankly might be the cases that sources are telling the EFF that Congress doesn't particularly care which bill gets these passed. And in any case, if you haven't heard of one or more of these bills, now would be a great time to know they exist because everyone is evil and the government means to pass as many as they can despite all objections. --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:974963003] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/you-can-help-stop-these-bad-internet-billsIt has been the plan since the beginning to try and put all of these together into one super-bill because none of them are popular. Originally, the plan was to have a "think of the children" week or something and pass them then, but now it seems Congress wants to stick them all into something that needs to pass for different reasons. The article doesn't mention which, which I admit is a weakness, but it frankly might be the cases that sources are telling the EFF that Congress doesn't particularly care which bill gets these passed. And in any case, if you haven't heard of one or more of these bills, now would be a great time to know they exist because everyone is evil and the government means to pass as many as they can despite all objections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 07/20/23 8:27:29 PM #2:	Bump! --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:974966353] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Bump!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 07/20/23 8:31:44 PM #3:	Every single one of these bills are absolute trash wtf --- #EatTheRich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:974966442] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Every single one of these bills are absolute trash wtf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BearlyWilling 07/20/23 8:46:38 PM #4:	Unknown5uspect posted... Every single one of these bills are absolute trash wtf --- Hmm... <cite>BearlyWilling posted [p:974966760] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Unknown5uspect posted... </cite><quote>Every single one of these bills are absolute trash wtf</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/20/23 8:49:55 PM #5:	Unknown5uspect posted... Every single one of these bills are absolute trash wtf 2 of the bills are bad. but then donald trump becomes president and enforces the death penalty against drug dealers and users... that isn't so good. --- beware of the chun-li <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:974966815] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Unknown5uspect posted...</cite><quote>Every single one of these bills are absolute trash wtf</quote>2 of the bills are bad. but then donald trump becomes president and enforces the death penalty against drug dealers and users... that isn't so good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 07/21/23 4:28:41 AM #6:	kingdrake2 posted... 2 of the bills are bad. Which ones do you think are good, and why? Every single one of these has a pervasive theme of surveillance and internet censorship, and they are trying to pass them as a group in no small part because none can pass alone, and because it means government control of the internet will increase even if some of them don't survive legal challenges. --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:974971817] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>kingdrake2 posted... </cite><quote>2 of the bills are bad.</quote>Which ones do you think are good, and why? Every single one of these has a pervasive theme of surveillance and internet censorship, and they are trying to pass them as a group in no small part because none can pass alone, and because it means government control of the internet will increase even if some of them don't survive legal challenges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ragnarokius 07/21/23 4:37:49 AM #7:	As out of hand as the internet is and how badly it's negatively impacted mental health, culture and even society it probably does need some sort of regulation that isn't going to be immediately popular. If it ever is. But better for humanity and society in the long run. It ain't any of that shit, though. --- https://tinyurl.com/hhcb7k5d https://tinyurl.com/yre5pjxe <cite>ragnarokius posted [p:974971876] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>As out of hand as the internet is and how badly it's negatively impacted mental health, culture and even society it probably does need some sort of regulation that isn't going to be immediately popular. If it ever is. But better for humanity and society in the long run. It ain't any of that shit, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/21/23 4:38:34 AM #8:	We have no rights --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:974971879] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>We have no rights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 07/21/23 4:54:58 AM #9:	tremain07 posted... We have no rights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4 --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKz2U4fvA4U <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:974971963] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>tremain07 posted... </cite><quote>We have no rights</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
02fran 07/24/23 6:53:46 AM #10:	tremain07 posted... We have no rights we have to fight for it <cite>02fran posted [p:975031294] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>tremain07 posted... </cite><quote>We have no rights</quote>we have to fight for it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BunkerBoy 07/24/23 7:59:08 AM #11:	Criminalize VPN usage? Outlaw encryption? What kind of smooth-brains created these godawful bills? <cite>BunkerBoy posted [p:975031803] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Criminalize VPN usage? Outlaw encryption? What kind of smooth-brains created these godawful bills? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrKapowski 07/24/23 8:05:15 AM #12:	BunkerBoy posted... What kind of smooth-brains created these godawful bills? The government --- So! You want to hear a story, eh? <cite>MrKapowski posted [p:975031856] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>BunkerBoy posted... </cite><quote>What kind of smooth-brains created these godawful bills?</quote>The government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 07/24/23 8:07:24 AM #13:	Definitely concerning, but would be more concerning if there was a chance in hell they'd ever be able to enforce any of that shit --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:975031871] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Definitely concerning, but would be more concerning if there was a chance in hell they'd ever be able to enforce any of that shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 07/24/23 8:10:07 AM #14:	MrKapowski posted... The government No its the corporate donors that make them push bills that the government doesnt even understand --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:975031896] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>MrKapowski posted... </cite><quote>The government</quote>No its the corporate donors that make them push bills that the government doesnt even understand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/24/23 8:11:00 AM #15:	Gwynevere posted... Definitely concerning, but would be more concerning if there was a chance in hell they'd ever be able to enforce any of that shit Eventually they'll find a way or just force it no matter how much harm it does. The Tories keep trying in the UK despite their attempts at similar laws collapsing repeatedly when they have no way or companies willing to implement it. --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:975031904] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Definitely concerning, but would be more concerning if there was a chance in hell they'd ever be able to enforce any of that shit</quote>Eventually they'll find a way or just force it no matter how much harm it does.The Tories keep trying in the UK despite their attempts at similar laws collapsing repeatedly when they have no way or companies willing to implement it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 07/25/23 12:39:25 AM #16:	Gwynevere posted... Definitely concerning, but would be more concerning if there was a chance in hell they'd ever be able to enforce any of that shit Big companies can't ignore the US government the way they can ignore Australia or the UK. They can't threaten to leave or take their business elsewhere. Companies already bend the knee to three letter agencies for secret spying. These bills will take away the rest of online privacy and secret communications, restrict who can access what (under the guise of protecting children from objectionable content), and even what content can appear on the internet. This is a huge deal. If any of you still haven't contacted your representatives yet, please do so. If you don't believe the things I'm saying, please check out the EFF and read about these bills and who is against them. And if that still isn't enough, check out the text of the bills themselves. This is bad, and it's worrying that they are trying to pass them all at once without serious scrutiny, especially when the public by and large wants none of it. --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:975048698] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Definitely concerning, but would be more concerning if there was a chance in hell they'd ever be able to enforce any of that shit</quote>Big companies can't ignore the US government the way they can ignore Australia or the UK. They can't threaten to leave or take their business elsewhere. Companies already bend the knee to three letter agencies for secret spying. These bills will take away the rest of online privacy and secret communications, restrict who can access what (under the guise of protecting children from objectionable content), and even what content can appear on the internet. This is a huge deal.If any of you still haven't contacted your representatives yet, please do so. If you don't believe the things I'm saying, please check out the EFF and read about these bills and who is against them. And if that still isn't enough, check out the text of the bills themselves. This is bad, and it's worrying that they are trying to pass them all at once without serious scrutiny, especially when the public by and large wants none of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 07/25/23 12:42:41 AM #17:	These are fucking terrible. Holy shit --- Atlanta Falcons choking a 28-3 lead in the 3rd qtr: https://youtu.be/gY8exXZgyqc Atlanta Falcons choking a 26-10 lead in the 4th qtr: https://youtu.be/BYJHgyXiwvs <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:975048729] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>These are fucking terrible. Holy shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BryceYoung 07/25/23 12:45:45 AM #18:	I like how the URL says "you can help stop these bad bills" No, you can't. If the government and the corporations want the bill to pass, it'll pass. One way or another. This isn't a democracy. Average citizens have no power here. --- Future backup QB <cite>BryceYoung posted [p:975048769] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>I like how the URL says "you can help stop these bad bills"No, you can't. If the government and the corporations want the bill to pass, it'll pass. One way or another. This isn't a democracy. Average citizens have no power here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 07/25/23 12:51:28 AM #19:	BryceYoung posted... I like how the URL says "you can help stop these bad bills" No, you can't. If the government and the corporations want the bill to pass, it'll pass. One way or another. This isn't a democracy. Average citizens have no power here. EARN IT is on like it's third try. Bad bills have been defeated before, and they can be defeated again. None of us can force Congress to act in a certain way, but taking about these issues and applying pressure is not nothing. Not every company, government agency, or member of Congress will be in favor of these bills either. --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:975048835] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>BryceYoung posted... </cite><quote>I like how the URL says "you can help stop these bad bills"No, you can't. If the government and the corporations want the bill to pass, it'll pass. One way or another. This isn't a democracy. Average citizens have no power here.</quote>EARN IT is on like it's third try. Bad bills have been defeated before, and they can be defeated again. None of us can force Congress to act in a certain way, but taking about these issues and applying pressure is not nothing. Not every company, government agency, or member of Congress will be in favor of these bills either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BryceYoung 07/25/23 2:50:14 PM #20:	darkmaian23 posted... EARN IT is on like it's third try. Bad bills have been defeated before, and they can be defeated again. None of us can force Congress to act in a certain way, but taking about these issues and applying pressure is not nothing. Not every company, government agency, or member of Congress will be in favor of these bills either. True, but only temporarily. We may be able to stall, but the money will grow and grow until it flips more and more of those companies, agencies, and congresspeople. Best we can hope for is to stall for a few years. --- Future backup QB <cite>BryceYoung posted [p:975059303] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>darkmaian23 posted... </cite><quote>EARN IT is on like it's third try. Bad bills have been defeated before, and they can be defeated again. None of us can force Congress to act in a certain way, but taking about these issues and applying pressure is not nothing. Not every company, government agency, or member of Congress will be in favor of these bills either.</quote>True, but only temporarily. We may be able to stall, but the money will grow and grow until it flips more and more of those companies, agencies, and congresspeople. Best we can hope for is to stall for a few years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 07/25/23 2:50:52 PM #21:	become ungovernable --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:975059316] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>become ungovernable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 07/27/23 2:55:54 AM #22:	These geezer stooges are so out of touch. --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:975090741] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>These geezer stooges are so out of touch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 07/27/23 3:07:24 AM #23:	BryceYoung posted... I like how the URL says "you can help stop these bad bills" No, you can't. If the government and the corporations want the bill to pass, it'll pass. One way or another. This isn't a democracy. Average citizens have no power here. Reminder to the Second Amendment fanatics Those guns were meant to oppose tyranny, right? Any time now. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975090832] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>BryceYoung posted... </cite><quote>I like how the URL says "you can help stop these bad bills"No, you can't. If the government and the corporations want the bill to pass, it'll pass. One way or another. This isn't a democracy. Average citizens have no power here.</quote>Reminder to the Second Amendment fanaticsThose guns were meant to oppose tyranny, right? Any time now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Memorial_Bench 07/28/23 11:15:36 PM #24:	I have faith the internet will not fall to these luddites. --- Thank You <cite>Memorial_Bench posted [p:975128230] in Congress p... [t:80514345]...</cite> <quote>I have faith the internet will not fall to these luddites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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