Poll of the Day > Say what you will about crazed comic book movie fans...

(+) Yeah! (+)

...but I will never understand people who sent death threats to the actress that played Skylar White in Breaking Bad.

Like I can kinda empathize with the comic book nerd that sees his role model/waifu be portrayed in such a disappointing way on the big screen but its entirely another to threaten the life of an actress who was tasked with playing an antagonistic role and did so apparently well.

I guess I just straight up cannot understand what would drive a person to do that? I guess someone that's been cheated on before? /blog

she's supposed to just be "one of the guys" when she learns of her husbands obviously illegal as fuck activities.

They did the same thing to the Joffrey kid and IIRC Laura Bailey as well

I'd say the thing to keep in mind is that crazy people exist in all walks of life. So the problem is not so much "crazy comic book fans" or "crazy video game fans" or "crazy movie fans" - it's fans of anything... who also happen to be crazy.

The real problem is that everyone today uses implied groupthink as an ad hominem. If 100 people complain about a character in a film because they're poorly written, but 1 of those people also make sexist or racist comments about the actor that plays them, people immediately dismiss the opinions of the other 99 people as being solely motivated by bigotry because of "guilt by association". A few comic fans act like assholes, and then people whine about how all comic fans are assholes and how "toxic" the fandom is. Which is itself kind of bullshit.

People are always quick to fling those accusations (and studios encourage it because it allows them to deflect all criticism when they shit out terrible movies), but that in itself is also shitty asshole behavior.

Honestly, that sort of "All X think Y" mindset is a huge negative of Internet social culture in general. The Internet hugely empowers tribalism in general, and it leads to an infinite sea of shit takes.

same vibe as the assholes that harassed the actors in the the star wars movies. yeah, the sequels sucked, but fans are just absolutely psychotic.

Metalsonic66 posted...

the Joffrey kid

Yes! That's another one that I'll never understand.
Nade_Duck posted...

assholes that harassed the actors in the the star wars movies

I chalk that up under the first group i.e. "crazed comic book movie" fans only because its a similar "this is supposed to be a story about my childhood heroes, not ___!"
Mind you I'm not defending literal criminal behavior, I just think its a slightly different case.

Nade_Duck posted...

same vibe as the assholes that harassed the actors in the the star wars movies. yeah, the sequels sucked, but fans are just absolutely psychotic.

The sequels sucking also wasnt remotely the fault of the actors , it was because there wasnt a cohesive story drawn out from the start and that they kept switching directors.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I'd say the thing to keep in mind is that crazy people exist in all walks of life. So the problem is not so much "crazy comic book fans" or "crazy video game fans" or "crazy movie fans" - it's fans of anything... who also happen to be crazy.

The real problem is that everyone today uses implied groupthink as an ad hominem. If 100 people complain about a character in a film because they're poorly written, but 1 of those people also make sexist or racist comments about the actor that plays them, people immediately dismiss the opinions of the other 99 people as being solely motivated by bigotry because of "guilt by association". A few comic fans act like assholes, and then people whine about how all comic fans are assholes and how "toxic" the fandom is. Which is itself kind of bullshit.

People are always quick to fling those accusations (and studios encourage it because it allows them to deflect all criticism when they shit out terrible movies), but that in itself is also shitty asshole behavior.

Honestly, that sort of "All X think Y" mindset is a huge negative of Internet social culture in general. The Internet hugely empowers tribalism in general, and it leads to an infinite sea of shit takes.

I think that's just Kotaku "journalists" who do that and idiots on Twitter.

I'm on the schizo-spectrum, and I'm often shocked how 'normal' people can be so disconnected from reality.

AltOmega2 posted...

Yes! That's another one that I'll never understand.

I chalk that up under the first group i.e. "crazed comic book movie" fans only because its a similar "this is supposed to be a story about my childhood heroes, not ___!"
Mind you I'm not defending literal criminal behavior, I just think its a slightly different case.

but only slightly. both are unreasonable and childish, and likely based in bigotry or sexism as far as the worst of it goes. completely defeating their own arguments by making nobody want to listen to their stupid shit.

but yeah, in this case one's definitely worse than the other. they're both on the same side of the line, though.

gogues posted...

The sequels sucking also wasnt remotely the fault of the actors , it was because there wasnt a cohesive story drawn out from the start and that they kept switching directors.

kinda my point. they're not only being assholes, but it's completely misguided and pointless. it's stupid on multiple levels.

Ironic, considering plenty of people who play some of the most despicable characters are also some of the most notoriously nice cast members.

gogues posted...

The sequels sucking also wasnt remotely the fault of the actors , it was because there wasnt a cohesive story drawn out from the start and that they kept switching directors.

hayden inarguably played a very terrible skywalker

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Honestly, that sort of "All X think Y" mindset is a huge negative of Internet social culture in general. The Internet hugely empowers tribalism in general, and it leads to an infinite sea of shit takes.

But if I can't practice outgroup homogeneity, how am I supposed to feel superior to groups I hate?

Yeah why couldnt they show Anna Gunn the same amount of respect that comic movie fans have shown to Brie Larson

The only shred of joy I have in my miserable existence is fantasizing about being a powerful crime lord like Walter White and I cannot stand that females have decided to ruin even my imagined happiness

gogues posted...

The sequels sucking also wasnt remotely the fault of the actors , it was because there wasnt a cohesive story drawn out from the start and that they kept switching directors.

It's almost never gonna be the fault of the actor, except in cases where they control the production (and those typically aren't the people receiving death threats). Actors are picked by a casting director and directed on how to act by the director based on how the part was written. They come in and do what they're told to. They may throw in some flourishes but even that has to pass in front of so many of the actual decision makers before it's shipped.

Obviously it's unreasonable to send anyone a death threat for any part of a production. But the idiots that do choose the actors because they're so simple minded that they can't see beyond the person playing the character. Well... that and they love a chance to bully certain types of people so they believe the role is their ticket in.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I'd say the thing to keep in mind is that crazy people exist in all walks of life. So the problem is not so much "crazy comic book fans" or "crazy video game fans" or "crazy movie fans" - it's fans of anything... who also happen to be crazy.

The real problem is that everyone today uses implied groupthink as an ad hominem. If 100 people complain about a character in a film because they're poorly written, but 1 of those people also make sexist or racist comments about the actor that plays them, people immediately dismiss the opinions of the other 99 people as being solely motivated by bigotry because of "guilt by association". A few comic fans act like assholes, and then people whine about how all comic fans are assholes and how "toxic" the fandom is. Which is itself kind of bullshit.

People are always quick to fling those accusations (and studios encourage it because it allows them to deflect all criticism when they shit out terrible movies), but that in itself is also shitty asshole behavior.

Honestly, that sort of "All X think Y" mindset is a huge negative of Internet social culture in general. The Internet hugely empowers tribalism in general, and it leads to an infinite sea of shit takes.

God I wish everyone could see this post.

Revelation34 posted...

I think that's just Kotaku "journalists" who do that and idiots on Twitter.

I literally see it on gamefaqs all the time, assigning the blame to a specific website is no different then assigning blame to specific fandoms.