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McSame_as_Bush
07/04/23 2:30:22 PM
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A federal judge on Tuesday blocked key Biden administration agencies and officials from meeting and communicating with social media companies about protected speech, in an extraordinary injunction in an ongoing case that could have profound effects on the First Amendment.

The injunction came in response to a lawsuit brought by Republican attorneys general in Louisiana and Missouri, who allege that government officials went too far in their efforts to encourage social media companies to address posts that they worried could contribute to vaccine hesitancy during the pandemic or upend elections. The Trump-appointed judges move could upend years of efforts to enhance coordination between the government and social media companies.

The injunction was a victory for the state attorneys general, who have accused the Biden administration of enabling a sprawling federal Censorship Enterprise to encourage tech giants to remove politically unfavorable viewpoints and speakers, and for conservatives whove accused the government of suppressing their speech. In their filings, the attorneys general alleged the actions amount to the most egregious violations of the First Amendment in the history of the United States of America.

The judge, Terry A. Doughty, has yet to make a final ruling in the case, but in the injunction, he wrote that the Republican attorneys general have produced evidence of a massive effort by Defendants, from the White House to federal agencies, to suppress speech based on its content.

The ruling could have critical implications for tech companies, which regularly communicate with government officials, especially during elections and emergencies, such as the coronavirus pandemic.

In his order, the judge made some exceptions for communications between the government officials and the companies, including to warn them of national security threats, criminal activity or voter suppression.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/04/biden-social-lawsuit-missouri-louisiana/

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StateofZen
07/04/23 2:31:37 PM
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Strider102
07/04/23 2:32:12 PM
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I, for one, am absolutely shocked.

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MistyKnight
07/04/23 2:33:38 PM
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Another lawsuit about things right wing fucks made up

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MarcoRubio
07/04/23 2:34:06 PM
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Shadow_Don
07/04/23 2:35:52 PM
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Completely ignore trump literally censoring people or musk censoring people critical of his favorite far right 3rd world dictators.

But yea the vague gesturing from the GOP clown car about hunter bidens dick is definitely evidence of the greatest free speech crime since the big bang.

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Alteres
07/05/23 11:16:28 AM
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I dont care why they are doing it, in general its a good thing and should set a precedent.

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TonyKojima
07/05/23 11:27:13 AM
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Just ignore the judge he has no authority to even make such a ruling.

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Were_Wyrm
07/05/23 11:27:56 AM
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Seems to me everything the Biden admin was communicating with social media companies about falls under the exceptions that were carved out.

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boomgetchopped3
07/05/23 11:32:33 AM
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Hard to imagine this order sticking if its simply companies acting on their own in the case of twitter. Sure candidates should never be able to mandate any censorship, but the Biden team never forced twitter to do so. So how would this work legally?
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TonyKojima
07/05/23 11:34:20 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Hard to imagine this order sticking if its simply companies acting on their own in the case of twitter. Sure candidates should never be able to mandate any censorship, but the Biden team never forced twitter to do so. So how would this work legally?
It wouldn't, this isn't even enforceable.

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CreekCo
07/05/23 11:36:13 AM
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Ignoring the title of this thread, this ruling is a GOOD thing

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Tyranthraxus
07/05/23 11:36:37 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Hard to imagine this order sticking if its simply companies acting on their own in the case of twitter. Sure candidates should never be able to mandate any censorship, but the Biden team never forced twitter to do so. So how would this work legally?

It's an order that's impossible to follow. "You have to coordinate but not about this specific thing" is an unenforceable, self contradictory order.

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Dark_Arbron
07/05/23 11:38:33 AM
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CreekCo posted...
Ignoring the title of this thread, this ruling is a GOOD thing

If you ignore the obviously awful motive by an obviously awful party, sure!

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Alteres
07/05/23 12:16:12 PM
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I guess we collectively gave up when info came out the government was already illegally accessing and recording everything and nobody gave a damn.

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TaylorHeinicke
07/05/23 12:22:46 PM
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Alteres posted...
I guess we collectively gave up when info came out the government was already illegally accessing and recording everything and nobody gave a damn.
Mmhm. Complacency has won. I'm no exemption. I just assume everything I visit/read/write (including this post) is being captured and stored somewhere. Nothing we can do anyways. Internet is too convenient to give up in the name of privacy.

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daynlokki
07/05/23 1:03:14 PM
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CreekCo posted...
Ignoring the title of this thread, this ruling is a GOOD thing
Its good if you want other countries to be able to meddle in American affairs for sure.
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Gritty
07/05/23 1:07:05 PM
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just defined the Republican Party. Damn
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McSame_as_Bush
07/05/23 7:54:57 PM
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CreekCo posted...
Ignoring the title of this thread, this ruling is a GOOD thing

https://www.justsecurity.org/87155/restricting-the-government-from-speaking-to-tech-companies-will-spread-disinformation-and-harm-democracy/

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ScazarMeltex
07/05/23 7:56:26 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
https://www.justsecurity.org/87155/restricting-the-government-from-speaking-to-tech-companies-will-spread-disinformation-and-harm-democracy/
That's the point of tbe ruling tbh.

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DrizztLink
07/05/23 7:57:50 PM
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CreekCo posted...
Ignoring the title of this thread, this ruling is a GOOD thing
Have you ever had an opinion that wasn't terrible?

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Torgo
07/05/23 8:03:04 PM
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Alteres posted...
I dont care why they are doing it, in general its a good thing and should set a precedent.

  • Covid vaccines helped save many lives, prevented many more from severe illness.


  • Donald trump lost the 2020 election, Biden won.


  • Removing Hunter Biden dick pics is well within terms of service and should have been removed.


  • Donald Trump's administration also asked for and frequently were granted removal of material from Twitter.


I apologize to anyone triggered by these easily verified and well documented facts.

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xlr_big-coop
07/05/23 8:22:41 PM
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Alteres posted...
I dont care why they are doing it, in general its a good thing and should set a precedent.


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dave_is_slick
07/05/23 10:28:27 PM
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Alteres posted...
I dont care why they are doing it, in general its a good thing and should set a precedent.
Fucking shut up.

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Ruvan22
07/06/23 8:43:58 AM
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Are any of the people that quoted Alteres without adding their own reasoning going to explain why they think it's overall a good thing?
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Alteres
07/06/23 8:56:54 AM
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I have never said one word in support of trump.

With the massive amounts of government overreach into our personal data, I dont like anything that makes that easier. With the information they already have it allows targeted fishing expeditions where they can then claim to have discovered or received information from cooperating sources.

Its BS in my opinion.

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Takuya_Lee
07/06/23 9:04:23 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Seems to me everything the Biden admin was communicating with social media companies about falls under the exceptions that were carved out.

Which is why this will easily be overturned on appeal. Or lay least it should be.

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Ruvan22
07/06/23 9:05:07 AM
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Alteres posted...
I have never said one word in support of trump.

With the massive amounts of government overreach into our personal data, I dont like anything that makes that easier. With the information they already have it allows targeted fishing expeditions where they can then claim to have discovered or received information from cooperating sources.

Its BS in my opinion.

Sorry I only saw your quote (absolute statement), I wasn't referring Trump. So anything that allows government to even contact social media sites with a request is "too far" in your opinion?
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Alteres
07/06/23 9:26:03 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Sorry I only saw your quote (absolute statement), I wasn't referring Trump. So anything that allows government to even contact social media sites with a request is "too far" in your opinion?
It depends on where and how the information on social media is posted/saved imo, but I believe most requests for personal data on citizens should need approval before hand. Maybe not on the level of a warrant, but something.

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RuneterranSnap
07/06/23 12:04:30 PM
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Too bad, still gonna happen as it should.

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doshindude
07/06/23 12:46:40 PM
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CreekCo posted...
Ignoring the title of this thread, this ruling is a GOOD thing
It's being invoked maliciously so no, false, wrong.

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CreekCo
07/06/23 2:51:39 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Have you ever had an opinion that wasn't terrible?

I dont think you have a lot of room to talk

Any ruling that enables free speech is a good thing no matter if you like the source

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RuneterranSnap
07/06/23 3:12:24 PM
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CreekCo posted...
I dont think you have a lot of room to talk

Any ruling that enables free speech is a good thing no matter if you like the source
If that "free speech" is nothing but hate and harmful misinformation? Nope.

If free speech protects that, it's time to end free speech.

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RuneterranSnap
07/06/23 3:22:12 PM
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Figures.

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masterpug53
07/06/23 3:30:17 PM
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I too find the 'ministry of truth' accusation to be quite fitting, actually. But that's only because the people using it never grew intellectually or emotionally beyond the level of getting their worldviews from children's books.

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SaikyoStyle
07/06/23 3:35:13 PM
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Why do right-wingers want to be lied to and treated like morons?

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RuneterranSnap
07/06/23 3:39:56 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Why do right-wingers want to be lied to and treated like morons?
People like being treated in a way that's accurate to themselves

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DrizztLink
07/06/23 7:00:18 PM
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CreekCo posted...
I dont think you have a lot of room to talk

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But sure, if you want to show us how you failed high school biology again feel free, it's always a delight.

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