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These people are fucking delusional. Stop pointlessly breeding these dogs.

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Remember that there are certainly aggressive Pit Buls, but there are also aggressive Chihuahuas and Golden Retrievers.

They are strong and muscular, which means that if they go berserk, they can do a higher intensity of damage.

Damn, sounds like we should be doing things to reduce the frequency and intensity of these attacks.

Pit breeds are not naturally more aggressive or dangerous than other dog breeds. Blame the owners.

Also did you know that chihuahuas are actually more aggressive?

Again, who gives a fuck if a chihuahua is aggressive, if that thing tries to bite you you punt it across the room. A chihuahua doesn't have the real potential to rip someone's face off.

so you dont care about the humane treatment of smaller breeds?

This is such a stupid argument, I don't know why it becomes a focal point for people interested in defending pit bulls.

A feral cat is more aggressive than a grizzly bear. But people aren't afraid of feral cats, gee I wonder why.

If a stranger's dog tries to attack me I don't care about treating it kindly, I care about protecting my genitals. I am punting that thing across the room.

Ok. But you don't care about preventing that attack from happening to begin with?
With say, lessons for dog owners?

You are setting up a ridiculous straw man here.

Answer the question, stop dodging. Would you be in agreeance with lessons for dog owners before they are allowed to own dogs?

Nobody should own a dog they are unprepared to train or take care of, but that's an irrelevant point about an argument I was never making. It's literally completely irrelevant how aggressive chihuahas are, unless morbid chihuahua incidents are a prevalent problem.

Ok, let's dive into that. When a pit bull snaps and tries to kill grandma and the 115lb woman who is walking it tries to get it under control, what sort of advance lesson do you suggest might help her in this situation?

Nobody should own a dog they are unprepared to train or take care of, but that's an irrelevant point about an argument I was never making. It's literally completely irrelevant how aggressive chihuahas are, unless morbid chihuahua incidents are a prevalent problem.

Ok, let's dive into that. When a pit bull snaps and tries to kill grandma and the 115lb woman who is walking it tries to get it under control, what sort of advance lesson do you suggest might help her in this situation?

Nobody should own a dog they are unprepared to train or take care of

It's literally completely irrelevant how aggressive chihuahas are, unless morbid chihuahua incidents are a prevalent problem.

The point of the lessons is to hinder that situation to happen to begin with.

It's like safety training at work. You aren't preparing how to dodge things falling from the crane, you are trained to not walk under a lifted load.

The lessons might include what kind of dogs are suited for body types and knowing what signs to look for so you can distract the dog before it behaves a certain way.

People like you keep implying this is a problem unique to pitbulls. And when confronted about it you say you'll just punt any chihauas and shoot any pitbulls when they go to attack. You never discuss what can be done to prevent it, and other people just post memes on gamefaqs whenever owner education is brought up.

Here's a good idea for preventing that situation

Don't get a pitbull

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I just saved your life, maaaaaan!

Don't go to work! It will prevent you from getting injured or dying at your workplace.

I just saved your life, maaaaaan!

Whenever I bring up the subject that owners should be forced to take lessons before becoming pet owners, people here always cry and say the entire breed should be wiped out instead

Ah yes, the fundamental means I have for creating resources that provide shelter, food and the primary resource required to do literally anything in the modern context - vs owning a very specific kind of pet

Totally the same thing, gj

I mean, at all! The experience is that those that create those horrible statistics will just go for the next dog in line to have a bad reputation

Look at my previous post in context. If your workplace has dangerous aspects to it, you don't stop working - you regulate and put barriers to prevent accidents.

The problem with banning this one specific breed, is that it doesn't solve the problem.... I mean, at all! The experience is that those that create those horrible statistics will just go for the next dog in line to have a bad reputation, and now this new breed is the problem in your eyes. Until we only have dogs "you can punt across the room" if it looks at you the wrong way.

If your argument is ban all dogs that have the potential to injure someone, then that's another argument than going after the Pit Bull specifically. That is what you are being challenged on.

That's cool but 1) a job is an important means of creating wealth which allows you to survive, I've yet to understand why it's so important to have a pit bull that it needs to be considered in the same context. We try to make jobs safer because we have no other choice but to make them safer. And 2) in most situations my job - however dangerous - won't put you or others at risk. If it did, the safety requirement needs to be tenfold.

Cars are a better analogy than a job because cars do affect other people's safety, and there is an element of risky hobbyism to car ownership, where people buy cars well over-powered for commuting.

What do we do with cars? We continually change and evolve the safety parameters, we refine what cars are allowed to exist, we ban elements that are simply too risky or hard to control.

There's a difference between you taking a risk for your amenity or choice of profession, and other people having to bear the risk of your amenity or choice of profession.

No, I don't think pitbulls should all be slaughtered in their sleep.

I do think it should be mandatory for them to be muzzled in public, and for the owners to have to take out insurance in a case their dog kills or maims.

Yes, you can extend that to all dogs if you like. I imagine the premiums will vary according to actuary assessment of risk. At least we'd get good statistics from them.

Pitbull bites aren't any worse than similarly sized dogs. Literally the only thing special about pitbulls is the hysteria

It doesnt matter. In any of the pit bull topics that come up i post similar information and the topics still go towards stats that are cherry picked.

They do the exact thing they complain about with the pitbull lovers. Statistics hand picked to fit a narrative while ignoring the bigger picture.

Nobody should own a dog they are unprepared to train or take care of, but that's an irrelevant point about an argument I was never making. It's literally completely irrelevant how aggressive chihuahas are, unless morbid chihuahua incidents are a prevalent problem.

Ok, let's dive into that. When a pit bull snaps and tries to kill grandma and the 115lb woman who is walking it tries to get it under control, what sort of advance lesson do you suggest might help her in this situation?

This is such a stupid argument, I don't know why it becomes a focal point for people interested in defending pit bulls.

A feral cat is more aggressive than a grizzly bear. But people aren't afraid of feral cats, gee I wonder why.