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hockeybub89
07/03/23 7:05:28 AM
#51:


steve_madsci posted...
Pitbull bites aren't any worse than similarly sized dogs. Literally the only thing special about pitbulls is the hysteria
Maybe we shouldn't allow any ownership of any pet that can rip someone to pieces if they have a bad day.

Kinda like how the average person can buy a knife or a handgun, but not bombs, even though both knives and handguns are involved in more incidents than bombs.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:05:31 AM
#52:


ZaruenKosai posted...
So you're okay with executing children that murder others than?
Chances are if a child murders at a young age, they are screwed for life and there is nothing that can be done to change them.
Only thing to do is put them down right?

Banning Pit Bulls is essentially putting the breed to extinction.
If you can't see how monstrous you are just because it's a "dog" and not a human, than you're worse than any pit bull.

False equivalence AND getting then/than wrong. My my.

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David1988
07/03/23 7:06:18 AM
#53:


You should need something like a pilots license equivalent in order to own pitbulls

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divot1338
07/03/23 7:08:23 AM
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Southernfatman
07/03/23 7:09:05 AM
#55:


I like how hardcore pitbull defenders act like the "haters" are the unreasonable ones, but say the craziest kind of stuff.

Pit bulls can horrifically maul and kill people and have many, many, many times. They're insanely powerful and you can't just bat one away. Look at how hard it is to get one off its target. There should be a lot more regulations and required insurance to own one in case it gets out or away and harms/kills someone. I shouldn't have to worry about walking down the street and some asshole's pit gets out and kills me.

"OMG you're just like the nazis! Genocide!"

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:10:32 AM
#57:


GranolaPanic posted...
If you want some examples of the lunacy of the Pitbulls haters here, I had one user say they were going to kill my puppy and another tell me that I belong in prison if I didnt give her to authorities to have her euthanized.
Instead of saying this, why don't you just post the exact quote?

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:13:40 AM
#58:


Avirosb posted...
Instead of saying this, why don't you just post the exact quote?
Because posting exact quotes of moderated messages can lead to getting moderated?

I could post a picture of when someone on this website said that they wanted to adopt a pitbull just to euthanize it once. Id get moderated, but I could post it. Doesn't mean I want to get moderated.

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DnDer
07/03/23 7:15:38 AM
#59:


There's people out there who say owners should be trained to "learn the signs."

And they never seem to comment on the links, interviews, and videos of pitbull owners going, "There were no signs. He just snapped." Let alone the videos that end up in these topics of pitbulls snapping, sometimes without any of the signs.

Just a strange dichotomy I've noticed when these topics go off.

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Tora_Sami
07/03/23 7:17:12 AM
#61:


GranolaPanic posted...
I dont have the exact quotes. When I got Paprika last year, I posted a picture of her. Then some low karma account said that he would kill her.

The other person was Gunplagirl. She said that my disabled puppy was a danger to others and that all Pitbulls need to be taken by authorities to be euthanized. And that if I refused that I should be put in prison.

I knew the haters were insane but that's fucked up. Fuck anyone who told you this.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:17:32 AM
#62:


GranolaPanic posted...
If you want some examples of the lunacy of the Pitbulls haters here, I had one user say they were going to kill my puppy and another tell me that I belong in prison if I didnt give her to authorities to have her euthanized.

Two users =/= everyone who has concerns about the breed. You really need to let that shit go. You got trolled, and very effectively considering you're still crying about it over a year later and trying to equate those two users to everyone else who has even the slightest concerns about the deadliest dog breed.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:18:49 AM
#63:


Slayer_22 posted...
Because posting exact quotes of moderated messages can lead to getting moderated?

I could post a picture of when someone on this website said that they wanted to adopt a pitbull just to euthanize it once. Id get moderated, but I could post it. Doesn't mean I want to get moderated.
Why would saying that be moderation worthy? What do you think happens to the animals they don't sell.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:24:15 AM
#66:


TheOtherMike posted...
Two users =/= everyone who has concerns about the breed. You really need to let that shit go. You got trolled, and very effectively considering you're still crying about it over a year later and trying to equate those two users to everyone else who has even the slightest concerns about the deadliest dog breed.
Isn't it kinda wild how every single one of these crazy 'trolls' seems to come from the anti-pitbull side rather than the pitbull side?

You got gunpla, no need to explain further.
PoundGarden, again, no need to explain further.
The dude who would post articles daily about pitbulls, sometimes the same articles, and sometimes articles that were ancient, then tag other users just so they could fight in the topics he made.
That's just the notable ones I remember off the top of my head.

But yes, must all be coincidence.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:25:30 AM
#67:


GranolaPanic posted...
I remember that and they were finally banned months later.
He's still posting in random topics I make. His new account is called 'Thud'.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:25:41 AM
#68:


Slayer_22 posted...
crazy 'trolls'

No such thing I'm afraid. I'll give you bored but people who seek to get a rise out of others don't have an emotional stake in the matter.

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Tora_Sami
07/03/23 7:26:38 AM
#69:


Southernfatman posted...
I like how hardcore pitbull defenders act like the "haters" are the unreasonable ones, but say the craziest kind of stuff.

Pit bulls can horrifically maul and kill people and have many, many, many times. They're insanely powerful and you can't just bat one away. Look at how hard it is to get one off its target. There should be a lot more regulations and required insurance to own one in case it gets out or away and harms/kills someone. I shouldn't have to worry about walking down the street and some asshole's pit gets out and kills me.

"OMG you're just like the nazis! Genocide!"

You are unreasonable cause you act like it's 90% of the breed. When it's a extremely small percentage that goes berserk and kill their owners. I think all of you are fuckin monsters.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:29:33 AM
#70:


Avirosb posted...
No such thing I'm afraid. I'll give you bored but people who seek to get a rise out of others don't have an emotional stake in the matter.
Idk, othermike is talking about them just being trolls. Meanwhile shrugging off what is practically a consistent case of 'trolls' within a specific subgroup of people with these 'concerns'.

Feel free to disagree with him on that matter. I'm not pushing the narrative that they're trolls, just that the haters seem to, weirdly enough, attract people who do incredibly unsavory things. And it's really, really odd how only one side does.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:33:41 AM
#71:


GranolaPanic posted...
Shut up. You dont get to tell me what I should let go of.

No, and yes I do. You choosing to ignore good advice is all you, though.

Slayer_22 posted...
Isn't it kinda wild how every single one of these crazy 'trolls' seems to come from the anti-pitbull side rather than the pitbull side?

No, there's several of you who are clearly trolling. Accusing everyone who has concerns about or wants regulation of the breed of wanting to "murder people's pets," downplaying the human atrocity that is genocide by trying to apply it to animals, literally every time someone gets accused of "dog racism," comparing pit bull maulings to chihuahua bites...and concluding that chihuahuas are worse. These are all blatant trolling because no one could possibly say those things in good faith.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:37:13 AM
#72:


Slayer_22 posted...
Feel free to disagree with him on that matter. I'm not pushing the narrative that they're trolls, just that the haters seem to, weirdly enough, attract people who do incredibly unsavory things. And it's really, really odd how only one side does.

Again, here you are taking the two worst users and applying them to literally everyone who isn't in 100% agreement with you. This is wildly disingenuous.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:38:36 AM
#74:


TheOtherMike posted...
No, and yes I do. You choosing to ignore good advice is all you, though.

No, there's several of you who are clearly trolling. Accusing everyone who has concerns about or wants regulation of the breed of wanting to "murder people's pets," downplaying the human atrocity that is genocide by trying to apply it to animals, literally every time someone gets accused of "dog racism," comparing pit bull maulings to chihuahua bites...and concluding that chihuahuas are worse. These are all blatant trolling because no one could possibly say those things in good faith.
Yes, yes, alright. If it happens so often, you can clearly name these users, no? And I'm talking the effed up stuff, not just 'oh, here's an argument' stuff. I'm talking the stuff like PG and gunpla and these other trolls have said. I can name a good chunk off the top of my head, no issue, and bring up what they've said. I will await, with baited breath, your responses.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:39:27 AM
#75:


GranolaPanic posted...
You dont know me. So dont presume to decide how I should react to things like that. Gunplagirl gave the most disingenuous apology possible and youre still mad that I didnt accept it.

Bro, idgaf if you accept her disingenuous apology or not. I'm not talking about her. I'm talking about you and your mental health. Your weird obsession with those users isn't doing you any good.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:40:01 AM
#76:


TheOtherMike posted...
Again, here you are taking the two worst users and applying them to literally everyone who isn't in 100% agreement with you. This is wildly disingenuous.
Isn't it weird how the two worst users seem to be connected to one side?

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:41:01 AM
#78:


TheOtherMike posted...
Bro, idgaf if you accept her disingenuous apology or not. I'm not talking about her. I'm talking about you and your mental health. Your weird obsession with those users isn't doing you any good.
Weirder to get angry because they're upset over something that messed up. Chill, man. It's a valid point to bring up.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:42:13 AM
#79:


Slayer_22 posted...
Isn't it weird how the two worst users seem to be connected to one side?
Hitler loved dogs. Just saying.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:44:04 AM
#81:


GranolaPanic posted...
Genocide is an acceptable term to use. Because theres constantly people talking about killing every last one of them and breeding them out of existence.

What's your opinion on bulldogs, another breed with bull in their name,
whose literal existence is suffering due to human breeders' laziness?

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:45:57 AM
#82:


Slayer_22 posted...
Yes, yes, alright. If it happens so often, you can clearly name these users, no?

I don't take down users names for saying mean things on the internet. But you, for one.

Slayer_22 posted...
And I'm talking the effed up stuff, not just 'oh, here's an argument' stuff.

Downplaying denocide is fucked up. Calling people racist because they point out that pit bull isn't a race is fucked up. Handwaving child maulings and deaths is fucked up.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:46:50 AM
#83:


Slayer_22 posted...
Isn't it weird how the two worst users seem to be connected to one side?

TheOtherMike posted...
Again, here you are taking the two worst users and applying them to literally everyone who isn't in 100% agreement with you. This is wildly disingenuous.


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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:47:34 AM
#84:


TheOtherMike posted...
I don't take down users names for saying mean things on the internet. But you, for one.

Downplaying genocide is fucked up. Calling people racist because they point out that pit bull isn't a race is fucked up. Handwaving child maulings and deaths is fucked up.
I never did any of these. But you're free to bring up specific examples of me doing so.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:51:45 AM
#85:


Slayer_22 posted...
Weirder to get angry because they're upset over something that messed up. Chill, man. It's a valid point to bring up.

Telling me I'm upset he didn't accept her apology when I didn't even know she apologized is not a valid point to bring up.

GranolaPanic posted...
Genocide is an acceptable term to use.

It objectively is not and I've explained to you repeatedly how it isn't. No one's fault but yours that you refuse to learn the definition of words and want to downplay suffering.

GranolaPanic posted...
It isnt an obsession. I am not going to forgive or forget something like that. If someone said that about your pets, would you let it go the way youre telling me to?

People have said far worse things about me and my husband, nevermind our pets. And yes, I let it go.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 7:56:10 AM
#86:


Slayer_22 posted...
I never did any of these. But you're free to bring up specific examples of me doing so.

You have ABSOLUTELY pulled the "dog racism" card. It's what I have you tagged for.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:56:30 AM
#87:


This is why I duck out of these topics. Make false claims, misrepresent points, terrible arguments, no empathy.

Not worth it.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 7:58:15 AM
#88:


TheOtherMike posted...
You have ABSOLUTELY pulled the "dog racism" card. It's what I have you tagged for.
Feel free to bring up what I said. Unless you're talking about that time PoundGarden randomly brought up race into a pitbull argument and I said it sounded like he was being racist and comparing pits to a race of people? But you seem to misrepresent stuff, so that's likely.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 8:01:14 AM
#89:


Slayer_22 posted...
Feel free to bring up what I said.

If I don't take down names of CE users, what makes you think I save quotes? I tag and move along, man.

Slayer_22 posted...
But you seem to misrepresent stuff, so that's likely.

What have I misrepresented?

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 8:03:29 AM
#90:


TheOtherMike posted...
If I don't take down names of CE users, what makes you think I save quotes? I tag and move along, man.

What have I misrepresented?
Uhhh...bro.

"You absolutely bring this thing up that I tagged you as!"

"Uhh...proof?"

"I tagged you!"

Definitely someone that I can trust to properly represent arguments.

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The_X_Dawg
07/03/23 8:06:17 AM
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PokemonExpert44
07/03/23 8:09:09 AM
#92:


Pitbulls ftw

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 8:09:18 AM
#93:


So you literally expect me to keep screenshots of years-old CE conversations just in case I need to prove that someone said something in an internet discussion. No one does that.

Instead, I can just tag them "race-baiting pit nutter" and remember that they once used the "dog racism" line in an attempt to make someone look racist.

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 8:11:42 AM
#94:


TheOtherMike posted...
So you literally expect me to keep screenshots of years-old CE conversations just in case I need to prove that someone said something in an internet discussion. No one does that.

Instead, I can just tag them "race-baiting pit nutter" and remember that they once used the "dog racism" line in an attempt to make someone look racist.
Lol. Nice to know you're down to entirely misrepresent things I've said and give me tags like that.

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TheOtherMike
07/03/23 8:17:54 AM
#95:


Slayer_22 posted...
Lol. Nice to know you're down to entirely misrepresent things I've said and give me tags like that.

No, you definitely earned the tag.

Regardless, and to get back on point, the points I mentioned get brought up in literally every pit bull topic. There's plenty of blatant trolling from the pro-pit side of the discussions.

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ai123
07/03/23 8:18:08 AM
#96:


I think terms like genocide and racism should be reserved for crimes committed against humans, rather than animals.

You may think it's technically applicable, but it's really offensive to do so.

We don't do it when we talk about eradicating mosquitos, locusts, or rats.


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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/03/23 8:24:24 AM
#97:


pinky0926 posted...
Ok, let's dive into that. When a pit bull snaps and tries to kill grandma and the 115lb woman who is walking it tries to get it under control, what sort of advance lesson do you suggest might help her in this situation?
People on CE think that training is some type of miracle pill that makes a dog never do anything wrong ever. It never occurs to them that a dog that's gone through training is still an animal and can do whatever the hell it feels at any given time

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Slayer_22
07/03/23 8:32:20 AM
#99:


TheOtherMike posted...
No, you definitely earned the tag.

Regardless, and to get back on point, the points I mentioned get brought up in literally every pit bull topic. There's plenty of blatant trolling from the pro-pit side of the discussions.
Yet you can't name a single person besides me, the one person you do name, myself, you have an absurd tag you can't back up, and the arguments you bring up cannot he cited at all for reference.

Damn, you're really making is super difficult to argue against right now.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 8:35:01 AM
#100:


GranolaPanic posted...
And it can apply to animals in a different context. Every single time Pitbull topics get posted, theres multiple users posting every last one or all of them and I think its obvious what they mean by that. Then theres all the talk of breeding them out of existence so they go extinct or mass confiscation and destruction of the breed.

The breeders already saw to the destruction of that breed.
If they had just done a better job, none of this would've happened.

On the note of animal culling; most of the male members of domestic livestock are killed off
to avoid overpopulation and aggressive rivarly. How's that for ethnic cleansing?

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