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1337toothbrush posted...

No, I have been suspended multiple times because of liars like you constantly lying about my stances and then mods, swamped by you (and others like you) mass marking my posts with bs explanations, thought they should believe you because if you tell a lie enough times it becomes the truth.

If you can't see the similarities between Reagan and the modern democratic party then you're just living in denial.

Anyone trying to push both sides shit wants Republicans to win. Maybe you have some rationalization about how much damage they would do and everyone they would kill is a good thing because it would "wake people up" but it doesn't actually make you better morally.

1337toothbrush posted...

No, I have been suspended multiple times because of liars like you constantly lying about my stances and then mods, swamped by you (and others like you) mass marking my posts with bs explanations, thought they should believe you because if you tell a lie enough times it becomes the truth.

If you can't see the similarities between Reagan and the modern democratic party then you're just living in denial.

that's not how the moderation system works. you actually defending russian war crimes is what gets you constantly suspended. if everyone you interact with is 'lying' you are probably the one actually lying

and how exactly is biden = literal reagan? because you say so isn't a valid answer tbh

Cemith posted...

I'm pretty sure I'd also be a "genius entrepreneur" if I was born as an heir to an emerald mine. It was so easy to fuck up Twitter and he managed to make every wrong choice. Some genius he turned out to be.

I doubt you would be able to lie as constantly as Elon. You arent mentally ill like he is.

He wasnt just born extremely rich and had everything handed to him, hes also a delusional narcissist and pathological liar.

hockeybub89 posted...

I'd love to see a conservative on CE actually try to convince LGBTQ people or pro-choicers why the GOP is right for them.

And by actually addressing those issues, not deflecting to gas prices and inflation and CHINA.

It is fascinating (if morbid) to see it devolve into "We must legislate trans people out of existence so our military is strong enough to fight China in WW3."

Legit just brain poisoning at that point

Skankhair posted...

Earth is about 9 quintillion times more savable than Mars is. On Mars the soil and air are poison and the radiation would kill a human. Theres no water or food. Colonizing Mars is definitely impossible now, and probably impossible ever.

Elon Musk is remarkably stupid and you have to be extremely gullible to fall for his nonsense.

In fairness: Colonizing Mars is hypothetically possible, but it'd require centuries of pretty dedicated work to terraform it. I don't think it's out of the question but anytime someone frames it as "we could colonize soon" like no we can't lol

Zero_Destroyer posted...

In fairness: Colonizing Mars is hypothetically possible, but it'd require centuries of pretty dedicated work to terraform it. I don't think it's out of the question but anytime someone frames it as "we could colonize soon" like no we can't lol

Its technically possible but I doubt humans will ever have the technology to actually do it. Right now its definitely impossible.

What about biodomes

on earth I mean

we cant save the earth but we can live in our bubble, maybe

Zero_Destroyer posted...

It is fascinating (if morbid) to see it devolve into "We must legislate trans people out of existence so our military is strong enough to fight China in WW3."

Legit just brain poisoning at that point

And it's ironically similar to how the CCP views things. The Chinese government thinks men are getting too weak and feminine or whatever and that it's weakening their country.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

What about biodomes

on earth I mean

we cant save the earth but we can live in our bubble, maybe

Only the rich will live in them.

The rest of us will suffer in the poisoned air.

Caelthus posted...

How in the biblical fuck were you ever a mod? Jesus christ, dude.

How is he not suspended

First millennial candidate I believe

KI_Simpson posted...

Anyone trying to push both sides shit wants Republicans to win. Maybe you have some rationalization about how how much damage they would do and everyone they would kill is a good thing because it would "wake people up" but it doesn't actually make you better morally.

I'm not pushing both sides shit and I never have. Pointing out that democrats are also bought and paid for by the rich and that therefore they also work for the rich doesn't mean I'm saying democrats are the exact same as the republicans. The democrats are obviously better, and it's really annoying how people like you insist that I have to state the obvious Every. Single. Fucking. Time. or otherwise I'm somehow a republican in disguise or whatever dumb shit.

It's useful to point out that a party bought and paid for by the rich will overwhelmingly not work in your interests (unless you are the rich). It's important because to arrive at the solution we need to look at root causes. How do you expect to work within the system to fix it when the system is rigged to work against you?

andel posted...

that's not how the moderation system works. you actually defending russian war crimes is what gets you constantly suspended. if everyone you interact with is 'lying' you are probably the one actually lying

and how exactly is biden = literal reagan? because you say so isn't a valid answer tbh

Show me where I have ever defended russian war crimes, you liar.

As for Biden being like Reagan, here are a few to start:

• "Tough on crime" bullshit with a strong focus being on war on drugs. This fossil is still anti-weed, which is even more inexcusable given the decades of results of the war on drugs and how the majority of the population (including the democratic party itself) supports legalization.
• Pro-war stances that push for escalation instead of deescalation. Helping Saudi Arabia carry out genocide in Yemen, continuing Bush's/Obama's/Trump's war schedules in the middle east, manufacturing consent for a future war with China, etc.
• Neoliberal policies pushing for privatization and the use of public funds for private contracts over using the government effectively. Tying down people with debt and at best giving a bit of relief to a few people, but he does it in ways that are most easily challenged in court. Don't forget that Biden was a key reason for why student loan debt is non-dischargeable through bankruptcy.

1337toothbrush posted...

I'm not pushing both sides shit and I never have. Pointing out that democrats are also bought and paid for by the rich and that therefore they also work for the rich doesn't mean I'm saying democrats are the exact same as the republicans. The democrats are obviously better, and it's really annoying how people like you insist that I have to state the obvious Every. Single. Fucking. Time. or otherwise I'm somehow a republican in disguise or whatever dumb shit.

It's useful to point out that a party bought and paid for by the rich will overwhelmingly not work in your interests (unless you are the rich). It's important because to arrive at the solution we need to look at root causes. How do you expect to work within the system to fix it when the system is rigged to work against you?

"It's obvious that Trump is a lunatic so it only needs to be pointed out when Hillary does something bad!" - Every fucking "unbiased" internet user and news organization in 2016. We have known that people do this and the horrific consequences it can have for years, if you still insist on doing it you are either a Republican or don't care if they hurt people. No one stops people from saying when Democratic politicians actually do something bad, but barging in to push "dur Biden iz Reagan!11" feces is deflection to benefit Republicans and you know it.

NightingaleMD posted...

Not at all. I definitely believe it's real, but see previous post. Dems can't govern. It's actually a part of why I so strongly support Elon. Elon also knows this planet is fucked. It's probably too late to save at this point. Colonize mars.

Dems are the only ones who can govern. And Elon is absurd. He's an embodiment of nearly everything wrong in the world. He claims, for example, to want to "save the world" from pollution while being the biggest individual polluter.

NightingaleMD posted...

DOJ should cut a deal with him. Pardon him in exchange for not running for office. Go an olive branch route.

Hell no. Trump must be sent to prison for the rest of his life. No other outcome is acceptable. No olive branches to fascists.

NightingaleMD posted...

It's really too bad he is so focused on that. Have you ever read about his work on environmental law? He's adamant that the EPA is run by the oil and gas corporations and he's 100% right. He's so, so good and has such a great record outside of the vaccine thing. he just really....backed the wrong horse there.

His anti-vaccine activism alone is bad enough to nullify anything good RFK Jr might have ever done in his life. And the anti-vax kookery is in no way the only thing he gets wrong either.

NightingaleMD posted...

It's actually a part of why I so strongly support Elon.

Good to know that we can write off your opinion.

1337toothbrush posted...

I'm not pushing both sides shit and I never have. Pointing out that democrats are also bought and paid for by the rich and that therefore they also work for the rich doesn't mean I'm saying democrats are the exact same as the republicans. The democrats are obviously better, and it's really annoying how people like you insist that I have to state the obvious Every. Single. Fucking. Time. or otherwise I'm somehow a republican in disguise or whatever dumb shit.

It's useful to point out that a party bought and paid for by the rich will overwhelmingly not work in your interests (unless you are the rich). It's important because to arrive at the solution we need to look at root causes. How do you expect to work within the system to fix it when the system is rigged to work against you?

Show me where I have ever defended russian war crimes, you liar.

As for Biden being like Reagan, here are a few to start:
* "Tough on crime" bullshit with a strong focus being on war on drugs. This fossil is still anti-weed, which is even more inexcusable given the decades of results of the war on drugs and how the majority of the population (including the democratic party itself) supports legalization.
* Pro-war stances that push for escalation instead of deescalation. Helping Saudi Arabia carry out genocide in Yemen, continuing Bush's/Obama's/Trump's war schedules in the middle east, manufacturing consent for a future war with China, etc.
* Neoliberal policies pushing for privatization and the use of public funds for private contracts over using the government effectively. Tying down people with debt and at best giving a bit of relief to a few people, but he does it in ways that are most easily challenged in court. Don't forget that Biden was a key reason for why student loan debt is non-dischargeable through bankruptcy.

he is so anti weed and pro drug war that he pardoned everyone he could with federal possession charges? he is the furtherst to the left in that regard of any potus we have had.

pro war by having the balls to end our longest war? what is this future war with china shit lmao he is projecting our geopolitical interests and specifically avoiding war while still crippling our enemies. easily the most anti war president we have had in decades

what specific 'neoliberal' policies? using buzzwords doesn't mean anything if you can't point to what you are claiming. attempting to give debt relief is what he has done, any way anyone could do that would be challenged but he is still attempting to work around the far right court that you seem to want since you advocate not voting and claim the courts would be the same regardless of who is potus.

you routinely defended russian warcrimes on 261 and were routinely suspended for it

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1337toothbrush posted...

Pro-war stances that push for escalation instead of deescalation.

"Deescalation" meaning appeasement of Russian aggression?

I'm interested in TC elaborating on this whole give up on Earth, colonize Mars thing. Maybe run through this checklist:

-What's the plan for food production, where are you getting water from?

-How about power? Is solar enough, or is the plan to run fossils fuels up to Mars to produce power?

-Where does the funding come from for material and construction costs for the infrastructure on Mars? What about the logistics of getting the workers and materials there? Hell, where do we even get all that material?

-How do you plan to maintain communications with the colony from Earth until its self sustainable? At closest approach, Mars is about 54.6 million km from Earth, so a message traveling at light speed unimpeded would take about 3 minutes to get there, 3 minutes back. That's your absolute best case communication window, with it likely being impossible at greater distances.

I just don't see how anyone acting in good faith thinks this is a viable alternative to just cleaning up our act here on Earth.

Anteaterking posted...

This is delusional.

It happened. Why do you think Nixon never went to prison? Ford realized it just wasn't worth a civil war.

@NightingaleMD why do you always evade the hard posts? Like defining what woke is

Red_XIV posted...

"Deescalation" meaning appeasement of Russian aggression?

I guess Chamberlain was just "deescalating" and bravely trying to avoid world war lmao

NightingaleMD posted...

It happened. Why do you think Nixon never went to prison? Ford realized it just wasn't worth a civil war.

Who the fuck was getting ready for civil war over Nixon JFC

Gwynevere posted...

I'm interested in TC elaborating on this whole give up on Earth, colonize Mars thing. Maybe run through this checklist:

-What's the plan for food production, where are you getting water from?

-How about power? Is solar enough, or is the plan to run fossils fuels up to Mars to produce power?

-Where does the funding come from for material and construction costs for the infrastructure on Mars? What about the logistics of getting the workers and materials there? Hell, where do we even get all that material?

-How do you plan to maintain communications with the colony from Earth until its self sustainable? At closest approach, Mars is about 54.6 million km from Earth, so a message traveling at light speed unimpeded would take about 3 minutes to get there, 3 minutes back. That's your absolute best case communication window, with it likely being impossible at greater distances.

I just don't see how anyone acting in good faith thinks this is a viable alternative to just cleaning up our act here on Earth.

This planet is doomed. I'm sorry, but it is. Climate science has been ignored long enough and definitely won't have any meaningful intervention that the priority has to shift to becoming an interplanetary species.

Too many people--mostly wildly uneducated people--think "global warming" or "climate change" means one day it's 65 degrees and another day it's 150 degrees. It's a gradual process of new bellcurve shifts of abnormal, sometimes in both directions.

I mean, it's a hard debate to have. This website is such an echo chamber of left-wing thought I can't have more than one or two posts here without having them deleted because of liberal censorship. And one of them was laughable and clearly not modded by a physician. I'm insulting biden by labeling him with dementia? I'm not his personal physician but off of a teleprompter it is frightening to hear him talk nonsense. Even on the teleprompter he's starting to read punctuation, like "end quote." These are dismissed by his spin team as "senior moments" which in itself is inappropriate. The leader of a country shouldn't have even one "senior moment." it's grossly inappropriate.

I still haven't seen one of you left wingers defend biden getting re-elected. Why support him at all? You're not electing a man, you're electing a staff. He's clearly physically and mentally broken. And that's not an insult, it's the result of being 80 years old. Talk to any, I mean any, 80 year old man or woman. The mind slows as it ages. That's normal--not an insult. Some accelerate more than others. He's rapidly accelerating by his public appearances and 4 more years is an insult to america.

Also kind of funny to see one person in here shitting on Biden for being weak and deferential towards China, and another shitting on him for being escalatory and manufacturing consent for wars against China and others.

But they both agree... conservatives rule and liberals drool.

For a second I thought Ramsay was running for prez

I'd vote him

Hed being some culinary standards to the white house

NightingaleMD posted...

This planet is doomed. I'm sorry, but it is. Climate science has been ignored long enough and definitely won't have any meaningful intervention that the priority has to shift to becoming an interplanetary species.

Too many people--mostly wildly uneducated people--think "global warming" or "climate change" means one day it's 65 degrees and another day it's 150 degrees. It's a gradual process of new bellcurve shifts of abnormal, sometimes in both directions.

I mean, it's a hard debate to have. This website is such an echo chamber of left-wing thought I can't have more than one or two posts here without having them deleted because of liberal censorship. And one of them was laughable and clearly not modded by a physician. I'm insulting biden by labeling him with dementia? I'm not his personal physician but off of a teleprompter it is frightening to hear him talk nonsense. Even on the teleprompter he's starting to read punctuation, like "end quote." These are dismissed by his spin team as "senior moments" which in itself is inappropriate. The leader of a country shouldn't have even one "senior moment." it's grossly inappropriate.

I still haven't seen one of you left wingers defend biden getting re-elected. Why support him at all? You're not electing a man, you're electing a staff. He's clearly physically and mentally broken. And that's not an insult, it's the result of being 80 years old. Talk to any, I mean any, 80 year old man or woman. The mind slows as it ages. That's normal--not an insult. Some accelerate more than others. He's rapidly accelerating by his public appearances and 4 more years is an insult to america.

That's nice, but are you going to answer any of my questions or just pretend that we can pack up and move to Mars tomorrow?

NightingaleMD posted...

This planet is doomed. I'm sorry, but it is. Climate science has been ignored long enough and definitely won't have any meaningful intervention that the priority has to shift to becoming an interplanetary species.

What is your basis for the premise that the planet is doomed and that we have the technology to colonize Mars but not materially change the atmosphere of a planet we've already spent 200 years changing

Your logic doesn't work

Will_VIIII posted...

Who the fuck was getting ready for civil war over Nixon JFC

Nobody. It's a very bad deflection tactic. Trump being convicted isn't starting another Civil War and pardoning him is nonsensical appeasement to an openly corrupt rulebreaker. Nixon's approval ratings when he resigned were dismal; nobody but beltway idiots that'd construct 90s conservatism actually was very mad about Nixon being rightfully exposed.

also OP I know your posts keep getting nuked but I don't like Biden lol he's a centrist doing way too little to fix problems, he's only an alternative to a fucking circus

NightingaleMD posted...

This planet is doomed. I'm sorry, but it is. Climate science has been ignored long enough and definitely won't have any meaningful intervention that the priority has to shift to becoming an interplanetary species.

Too many people--mostly wildly uneducated people--think "global warming" or "climate change" means one day it's 65 degrees and another day it's 150 degrees. It's a gradual process of new bellcurve shifts of abnormal, sometimes in both directions.

I mean, it's a hard debate to have. This website is such an echo chamber of left-wing thought I can't have more than one or two posts here without having them deleted because of liberal censorship. And one of them was laughable and clearly not modded by a physician. I'm insulting biden by labeling him with dementia? I'm not his personal physician but off of a teleprompter it is frightening to hear him talk nonsense. Even on the teleprompter he's starting to read punctuation, like "end quote." These are dismissed by his spin team as "senior moments" which in itself is inappropriate. The leader of a country shouldn't have even one "senior moment." it's grossly inappropriate.

I still haven't seen one of you left wingers defend biden getting re-elected. Why support him at all? You're not electing a man, you're electing a staff. He's clearly physically and mentally broken. And that's not an insult, it's the result of being 80 years old. Talk to any, I mean any, 80 year old man or woman. The mind slows as it ages. That's normal--not an insult. Some accelerate more than others. He's rapidly accelerating by his public appearances and 4 more years is an insult to america.

If we terraform Mars, why can't we just terraform Earth instead? It's right here. How are you even going to find the materials or manpower for Mars if Earth is so dead?

Musk can't even take criticism on the Internet without buying one of the biggest websites in the world and running it into the ground in his attempts to liberate it by... turning it into a pay-to-win safe space. He's going to single handedly save the world? Why? Because he has money?

And I don't like Biden at all, but tell me how I, as a LGBTQ pro-choice atheist who works in the healthcare field, sometimes helping people transition or get abortions, will benefit more from a Republican-run country? How will they protect me and support my goals? I can only care so much about the danger of China when there's already danger domestically.

Personally, I think Trump is way more mentally debilitated than Biden AND he fights against everything I hold dear. If those are my options for 2024, the only option I have is to hold my nose and vote for "nothing will fundamentally change".

NightingaleMD posted...

This planet is doomed. I'm sorry, but it is. Climate science has been ignored long enough and definitely won't have any meaningful intervention that the priority has to shift to becoming an interplanetary species.

it is with that attitude. Giving up and letting everyone die is not a winning solution. We're what, a century away from colonizing anything outside of earth? One solution (mitigating climate change) is feasible given enough resources. The other solution (extraterrestrial terraforming) may as well be science fiction.

NightingaleMD posted...

Too many people--mostly wildly uneducated people--think "global warming" or "climate change" means one day it's 65 degrees and another day it's 150 degrees. It's a gradual process of new bellcurve shifts of abnormal, sometimes in both directions

No notes here, it's true. Climate change is more than just global warming. It's everything from temperature to wildlife. I think the message got modded lol so here's my rebuttal to this point.

I still haven't seen one of you left wingers defend biden getting re-elected. Why support him at all? You're not electing a man, you're electing a staff.

I don't mind electing the staff. Biden's staff so far have done a much better job than Trump's... what, 7 associates being charged and/or convicted? To Biden's... Zero? None. Yeah, I don't love casting my ballot for Biden, but, again, his only competition has already done OBSCENE damage to the country. This entire point is fucking moot because even Biden's Team is better than Trump's everything.

Just a warn after all that huh

Topic is hilarious

Will_VIIII posted...

Just a warn after all that huh

The police protect their own

lol

It is a bit concerning that TC claims to be a doctor. I'd be scared shitless seeing someone that believes the batshit stuff he believes

KI_Simpson posted...

"It's obvious that Trump is a lunatic so it only needs to be pointed out when Hillary does something bad!" - Every fucking "unbiased" internet user and news organization in 2016. We have known that people do this and the horrific consequences it can have for years, if you still insist on doing it you are either a Republican or don't care if they hurt people. No one stops people from saying when Democratic politicians actually do something bad, but barging in to push "dur Biden iz Reagan!11" feces is deflection to benefit Republicans and you know it.

You say this as if I never criticize republicans. If you want to stick your head in the sand then go ahead, but stop making up lies about me.

andel posted...

he is so anti weed and pro drug war that he pardoned everyone he could with federal possession charges? he is the furtherst to the left in that regard of any potus we have had.

pro war by having the balls to end our longest war? what is this future war with china shit lmao he is projecting our geopolitical interests and specifically avoiding war while still crippling our enemies. easily the most anti war president we have had in decades

what specific 'neoliberal' policies? using buzzwords doesn't mean anything if you can't point to what you are claiming. attempting to give debt relief is what he has done, any way anyone could do that would be challenged but he is still attempting to work around the far right court that you seem to want since you advocate not voting and claim the courts would be the same regardless of who is potus.

you routinely defended russian warcrimes on 261 and were routinely suspended for it

Your first point actually reinforces my point of Biden doing the absolute minimum possible and pretending like he's doing more than he really is and people like you fall for it. Him pardoning a few people that he imprisoned with his push for the war on the drugs doesn't make up for the time they were imprisoned and doesn't solve the issue for future prisoners.

Your second point is hilarious because he ended our longest war by... following Trump's schedule for withdrawal, just like how Obama carried out Bush's policies. See, this is the problem I have. Republicans aggressively do damage and democrats just go along with it. Are both sides the same? Obviously not, but if you're taking one step forward and five steps back, guess what direction you're going. Tell me, what are "our" geopolitical interests? You're using the buzzwords of neocons, which is funny since you then go on to accuse me of using buzzwords. According to you, using Ukraine as a pawn in a proxy war is "avoiding war".

I already pointed out how Biden is a neoliberal. He strongly believes in using private enterprise rather than effective government for doing things, just as the democratic party has been doing since at least the Clinton years. He heavily subsidizes private insurers, oil companies, war contractors, and more. Where have a advocated for not voting? Seriously, stop pulling shit out of your ass.

Speaking of pulling shit out of your ass, stop lying about me on Russia. Never have I ever defended Russian war crimes. Notice how you just said I advocated for not voting when there isn't a single post in this topic where I did this and now you pretend like those moderations were legitimate. This is gaslighting in action. You and the rest of the liars make up a narrative about me and the mods, inundated with your flood of bullshit markings fell for it. You and the rest of your disingenuous crew are why the politics board is now shut down.

Red_XIV posted...

"Deescalation" meaning appeasement of Russian aggression?

Speaking of the disingenuous crew of liars, here's Red_XIV to lie about my positions. When have I ever said we should appease Russia? To neocons like you, anything short of nuking Russia into the stone ages is appeasement.

hockeybub89 posted...

I guess Chamberlain was just "deescalating" and bravely trying to avoid world war lmao

I love how the neocons always have to go all the way back to World War 2 to use as a flimsy excuse for pushing their wars. You know, World War 2, a war we didn't join until after *we were directly attacked*.

Gwynevere posted...

It is a bit concerning that TC claims to be a doctor. I'd be scared shitless seeing someone that believes the batshit stuff he believes

It's been questioned before

1337toothbrush posted...

I love how the neocons always have to go all the way back to World War 2 to use as a flimsy excuse for pushing their wars. You know, World War 2, a war we didn't join until after *we were directly attacked*.

I didn't know Chamberlain was an American.

I'm a "neocon" because I don't think anyone is escalating against Putin or that Biden is deliberately stoking flames with China?

Weird for you to call people conservatives while doing the conservative thing of being "anti-war" by suggesting countries stop "antagonizing" Russia. But how dare we pull out of Afghanistan when there was still so much terrorism to beat!

Putin must be paying you well.

hockeybub89 posted...

I didn't know Chamberlain was an American.

I'm a "neocon" because I don't think anyone is escalating against Putin or that Biden is deliberately stoking flames with China?

Weird for you to call people conservatives while doing the conservative thing of being "anti-war" by suggesting countries stop "antagonizing" Russia. But how dare we pull out of Afghanistan when there was still so much terrorism to beat!

Putin must be paying you well.

You're right, Chamberlain wasn't American, which makes bringing him up in the first place while discussing American geopolitics even stupider. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

I wasn't against pulling out of Afghanistan, I was pointing out that democrats are following a similar, but somewhat different, script to republicans. Not surprised you wouldn't understand this basic point. It's no wonder you think I'm being paid by Putin. You know, me, the same guy who wrote "May he get blown apart when Ukraine rolls in on Moscow, I don't really give a shit about him." earlier in the topic. Please think before posting.

I can't tell how legitimate or facetious the OP is being, however I've heard that dude speak at a Town Hall event and he is legitimately insane and extremist lol.

You could nuke earth a dozen times over, and the least habitable part of that earth would still be infinitely more habitable for us than anywhere on Mars.

For a thousandth the cost, the rich could build mega bunkers on earth that hold a thousand times the number of people at a higher standard of living than a shithole first generation Mars colony.

1337toothbrush posted...

You're right, Chamberlain wasn't American, which makes bringing him up in the first place while discussing American geopolitics even stupider. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

I wasn't against pulling out of Afghanistan, I was pointing out that democrats are following a similar, but somewhat different, script to republicans. Not surprised you wouldn't understand this basic point. It's no wonder you think I'm being paid by Putin. You know, me, the same guy who wrote "May he get blown apart when Ukraine rolls in on Moscow, I don't really give a shit about him." earlier in the topic. Please think before posting.

And yet here you are pushing nonsense about how Biden is escalating global tensions and also prepping us for the future wars being plotted, aka Russian bot propaganda bullshit spread all over the conservative sphere. You might not be a literal paid shill, but you're pushing their shit all the same.

Biden absolutely sucks, but what are we supposed to do when the Republicans suck so much worse? Stop voting in protest and hope America collapses really smoothly and quickly before Republican rule can hurt too many people?

NightingaleMD posted...

Dems can't govern.

What a dumb fucking post not based in reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

NightingaleMD posted...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHCjy_8EgLM

hockeybub89 posted...

And yet here you are pushing nonsense about how Biden is escalating global tensions and also prepping us for the future wars being plotted, aka Russian bot propaganda bullshit spread all over the conservative sphere. You might not be a literal paid shill, but you're pushing their shit all the same.

It's not a conservative conspiracy theory that the US strives for global domination. It was basically stated as much in the Wolfowitz/Bush doctrine, which has been followed by both republican and democratic presidents. It wasn't all long ago when Romney was screaming about Russia and Obama was telling him that the cold war was over. Now it's democrats screaming about Russia while republicans are playing the opposite role. It's all a play though, since opposition to Russia is overwhelmingly bipartisan as we can see when it comes to actual votes in congress.

hockeybub89 posted...

Biden absolutely sucks, but what are we supposed to do when the Republicans suck so much worse? Stop voting in protest and hope America collapses really smoothly and quickly before Republican rule can hurt too many people?

There is nothing we can do within the system, it's not designed to work for the masses. All we can do is consistently vote democrat and criticize them to try to coax them into throwing a bone here or there.

NightingaleMD posted...

It happened. Why do you think Nixon never went to prison? Ford realized it just wasn't worth a civil war.

Ford's pardon of Nixon turned out to be an absolute catastrophe for America. If Nixon had been punished for his crimes, that would've done a lot to prevent later Presidents from committing their own crimes. (And Trump likely would've never even run for President if he weren't under the impression that it would allow him to commit crimes with impunity.) And the idea that there would've been a "civil war" if Nixon went to prison is sheer insanity.

1337toothbrush posted...

I love how the neocons always have to go all the way back to World War 2 to use as a flimsy excuse for pushing their wars. You know, World War 2, a war we didn't join until after *we were directly attacked*.

If we had joined World War II sooner, it might not have actually been "World War II", due to ending much more quickly and with much less loss of life. And if Chamberlain hadn't appeased Hitler, that's not even a "might", it's an absolute certainty. If Britain and France had been willing to go to war in 1938 to support Czechoslovakia, Germany would've been defeated in less than a year. Millions of lives would've been saved. The Holocaust would have never happened. That's a perfect example of why appeasing an expansionist dictator just makes things worse and costs far more lives.

1337toothbrush posted...

You're right, Chamberlain wasn't American, which makes bringing him up in the first place while discussing American geopolitics even stupider. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

So America's situation now can't possibly be analogous to the position of another nation in the past? Even though Britain in 1938 was the global superpower, just like the US is now?