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Kloe_Rinz 06/29/23 4:44:44 PM #51: |
Approximately 0.001% or less of the internet even use adblockers. (Dont quote me on the percentage). If everyone with an adblocker stopped using YouTube they would hardly even notice a dip in their viewer stats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 06/29/23 4:44:54 PM #52: |
Krojen posted... Give it time, premium will start sneaking in ads too.I'm already seeing videos with embedded ads. --- Currently playing: Megaman Collection 1 and 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/29/23 4:46:08 PM #53: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Obviously.They already make money off their stalker scripts learning everything about your browsing habits and selling off that data, even if they never show you an ad ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 06/29/23 4:47:26 PM #54: |
Kloe_Rinz posted... They already make money off their stalker scripts learning everything about your browsing habits and selling off that data, even if they never show you an ad You honestly think the site would be sustainable with fucking cookie alone? --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/29/23 4:47:35 PM #55: |
Blue_Target posted... ...doesn't this exist already?"view desktop site" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/29/23 4:48:55 PM #56: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted... You honestly think the site would be sustainable with fucking cookie alone?They already tried to monetise free browser features like picture-in-picture. You dont get to call someone else also utilising free browser features a leech ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 06/29/23 4:50:59 PM #59: |
Krojen posted... Give it time, premium will start sneaking in ads too. Of course it will. People trust giant corporations way too much. Once they reach a certain mass and monopoly status, all the good deals fade and the anti-consumer stuff takes over. --- The right wing believe a fact is what their hierarchical belief structure dictates should be true - Not what is reflected in objective reality. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gigageek1500 06/29/23 4:51:09 PM #60: |
So YT Premium is blocking ads and YT Red is original content? And does either come with YT Music? What am I looking at, $40/mo for all of it? --- "Like you're standing in front of them with your hands behind your back, and then present a small ribbon-wrapped gift to them." Duskmon on the colon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/29/23 4:52:13 PM #61: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted... You honestly think the site would be sustainable with fucking cookie alone?I don't care. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foreverzero212 06/29/23 4:53:55 PM #62: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Google pays the power bills, the internet bills, and the development and administrative costs of running the platform.And they pay the shareholders that push for all the changes you cry about for ad friendly content so they can make even more money off the backs of creators. That's why they are pushing more ads. The bills are already easily paid for. And govt built a lot of the infrastructure they use. Anarchy_Juiblex posted... How do you contribute?I $ sub to creators to support them and watch ads on mobile to support leeches. There's nothing wrong inherently with ads. You're just naive in your reasoning for why you think the ads must constantly get worse. It ain't to pay the bills or the creators their fair share, it's to pay the leeches. And the leeches will always demand ad friendly rules on content no matter how many people sign up for premium. I'm old enough to remember cable being sold as ad free tv. --- lions and panthers oh my ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TonyKojima 06/29/23 4:54:13 PM #63: |
TMOG posted... *laughs in Firefox* --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 06/29/23 4:56:28 PM #64: |
gigageek1500 posted... So YT Premium is blocking ads and YT Red is original content? And does either come with YT Music? What am I looking at, $40/mo for all of it? $11.99 total (or less if you sign up with a VPN as a foreigner.) --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlemayor333 06/29/23 4:59:39 PM #65: |
If anybody should have to pay it should be the biggest channels who are using YouTube for their business to post their videos. These people are making millions but Google would rather chase common users away than have them pay some bills. --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 06/29/23 5:02:33 PM #67: |
gigageek1500 posted... So YT Premium is blocking ads and YT Red is original content? And does either come with YT Music? What am I looking at, $40/mo for all of it?YT Red was retired, though some content may still be labeled as "YT Red Original". It's all YT Premium now and unless you're paying for YouTube TV, it should only be like $11.99 a month. YouTube TV is like $55 or $60+ a month, depending on what additional content access packages you purchase with it --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 06/29/23 5:04:55 PM #68: |
Turtlemayor333 posted... If anybody should have to pay it should be the biggest channels who are using YouTube for their business to post their videos. Youtube takes ~45% of the ad share. Essentially those channels are already paying them. These people are making millions but Google would rather chase common users away than have them pay some bills. "Common users" get to have their videos hosted and shared for essentially free. What the fuck are you talking about? --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 06/29/23 5:06:03 PM #69: |
My $8.49 YouTube Premium subscription looking better by the minute. --- "Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." -Richard Feynman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shamino 06/29/23 5:09:52 PM #70: |
So how often will ads actually pop up? I'm not a fan of it, but I can handle it in a video or podcast as that's the norm on tv or radio for commercials. However, I draw the line if it's in music while it's playing, as in splitting the song in half, as that never happens on the radio or even on tv in the mtv era. --- Nintendrone/PC Elitist 16 GB 6700k RTX 3080 Cards/Suns/'Yotes/Diamondbacks/ASU Fan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/29/23 5:10:43 PM #71: |
Shamino posted... So how often will ads actually pop up? I'm not a fan of it, but I can handle it in a video or podcast as that's the norm on tv or radio for commercials. However, I draw the line if it's in music while it's playing, as in splitting the song in half, as that never happens on the radio or even on tv in the mtv era.Multiple times per video. For smaller videos it is more ad than video. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/29/23 5:11:52 PM #72: |
Turtlemayor333 posted... If anybody should have to pay it should be the biggest channels who are using YouTube for their business to post their videos. These people are making millions but Google would rather chase common users away than have them pay some bills.That's what Vimeo is for. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 06/29/23 5:12:23 PM #73: |
Shamino posted... So how often will ads actually pop up? Obnoxiously often. There's a reason people go to the effort they do to block them (which usually isn't much for pc/mobile, although sometimes more effort may be required on a smart tv depending on what brand/make of tv it is) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/29/23 5:13:28 PM #74: |
So, has anyone actually confirmed that YouTube is doing this? Everyone running this story is just citing this same Reddit post, and I don't know if that pop-up is genuine or not. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RuneterranSnap 06/29/23 5:14:41 PM #75: |
Youtube and Android need to be cut away from Google into separate companies, imo --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/29/23 5:15:32 PM #76: |
RuneterranSnap posted... Youtube and Android need to be cut away from Google into separate companies, imoDroid already is. It's just the OEM packages that have all the googley bits. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RuneterranSnap 06/29/23 5:23:17 PM #77: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Droid already is. It's just the OEM packages that have all the googley bits.Ahhhh --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 06/29/23 5:27:00 PM #79: |
Kloe_Rinz posted... Approximately 0.001% or less of the internet even use adblockers. (Dont quote me on the percentage). If everyone with an adblocker stopped using YouTube they would hardly even notice a dip in their viewer statsNot true on the account they're spending big money and time to fight it. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) | THE Ohio State:11-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuuuDe14 06/29/23 5:29:34 PM #80: |
Error1355 posted... I've been paying for Premium for years and have zero regrets over it. I use YouTube more than any other streaming platform so it was an easy choice. --- The Official Sons of Sparda of all GameFAQS boards. June 10, 2018. The day Dante returned to us. Do what you want, just don't expect to get paid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RuneterranSnap 06/29/23 5:30:13 PM #81: |
I'm annoyed I can't use my wife's premium on my account :( --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pojr 06/29/23 5:36:23 PM #82: |
I'm cool with YouTube premium, but while there's free ways to block ads why not utilize them? --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/29/23 5:38:27 PM #83: |
voldothegr8 posted... Not true on the account they're spending big money and time to fight it.Companies spend money on dumb unprofitable shit all the time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zado19 06/29/23 5:44:39 PM #84: |
Carljank posted... Google is shit but its not bootlicking to pay for a service you like.It is to nonsensically defend it, unprompted though... Youtube is unusable on the phone now because of multiple, unskippable, minute long ads They made it awful on purpose, then offered a fix in the form of "give me more money" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 06/29/23 5:50:09 PM #86: |
I'm minimized videos all the time when I don't have premium you guys must be watching some weird shit --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foreverzero212 06/29/23 6:08:52 PM #87: |
Kloe_Rinz posted... Companies spend money on dumb unprofitable shit all the timeYeah and this could be as simple as one of the dumb leeches that manages billions of shares complained to them to start doing something about it because he heard one of his grandkids can block ads. --- lions and panthers oh my ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Target 06/29/23 6:10:20 PM #88: |
Irony posted... I'm minimized videos all the time when I don't have premium you guys must be watching some weird shitI think its free for Android and Premium only for iPhone? --- https://imgur.com/JXxiPHm https://imgur.com/JXxiPHm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BaphometFlux 06/29/23 6:11:50 PM #89: |
Blue_Target posted... I think its free for Android and Premium only for iPhone?Nope I can do it for free and Im on IPhone. --- "The Future Rules!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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willythemailboy 06/29/23 6:23:27 PM #90: |
UnholyMudcrab posted... So, has anyone actually confirmed that YouTube is doing this? Everyone running this story is just citing this same Reddit post, and I don't know if that pop-up is genuine or not.My first impression of this is that it's a "fake" news thing that Youtube intentionally put out to gauge public reaction to it as an idea. Using social media to do market research at a cost of a few minutes work by an intern on a throwaway reddit account. --- There are four lights. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barber102 06/29/23 6:23:39 PM #91: |
Blue_Target posted... I think its free for Android and Premium only for iPhone? doesnt work on either for me. --- Dinosaurs built the pyramids. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BettyWhite 06/29/23 6:25:49 PM #92: |
Error1355 posted... I've been paying for Premium for years and have zero regrets over it. I use YouTube more than any other streaming platform so it was an easy choice. Yeah. YouTube is my background noise, nightly ritual and how I listen to music. Easy decision to pay for it. --- Thank you for being a friend <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 06/29/23 6:27:11 PM #94: |
TMOG posted... Lick harder, that boot's not quite clean yet. This is his entire persona, he is one of the most taggable people from 261. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 06/29/23 6:29:40 PM #95: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted... And youtube is under no obligation to keep your account active. If they offer free accounts, then they have an obligation to keep a free account active as long as it is being used. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlemayor333 06/29/23 6:47:07 PM #96: |
What if someone creates an extension that allows the ad to play for the full duration but mutes the audio and opens up a tab with pictures of animals? I feel like they're eventually going to make people do little quizzes about the ads. Answer 3 questions about the ad and if you get at least 2 wrong, you have to re-watch it. The infrastructure for this is already there. On YouTube TV they have surveys during the commercial breaks sometimes, and it's optional to interact with at this point but they could easily turn that survey into a quiz that you have to answer correctly to keep watching. I don't know how people aren't seeing the questions about being forced to engage with advertising, like in 20 years they're going to be tracking your eyeballs and charging you a fee if you don't look at all the billboards when you walk down the street - the natural conclusion of "Adblock is theft." --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 06/29/23 7:02:30 PM #97: |
Turtlemayor333 posted... like in 20 years they're going to be tracking your eyeballs Yeah that's already a thing with the VR goggles and was inferred with the Sony and Xbox cameras. Some company has also come out with a "free" smart tv that does stuff that will make your head explode. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Notti 07/02/23 7:41:36 AM #98: |
I wonder if this is Yts version of "inflation". --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thompson 07/02/23 8:23:57 AM #99: |
Turtlemayor333 posted... like in 20 years they're going to be tracking your eyeballs and charging you a fee if you don't look at all the billboards when you walk down the street - the natural conclusion of "Adblock is theft."Imagine a future where sunglasses have been outlawed, and then imagine that there will be corporate bootlickers saying that is a good thing. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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b_nolan 07/02/23 8:24:56 AM #100: |
CoyoteTheGreat posted... This is his entire persona, he is one of the most taggable people from 261.Yeah he's no one to be taken seriously --- 3219 9552 1415 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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