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Guns_of_Verdun
07/02/23 8:31:22 AM
#102:


I wouldn't mind ads if they weren't so fucking invasive

Getting unskippable 30 seconds ads or skippable after 10 seconds surverys or ads on videos that are like 5 seconds long

I try using Youtube on my phone and it's boardline unusable. I've even had ads interrupt songs

And then if you're watching a youtuber, they will have their own in video sponsorships on top of the ads. So you'll get unskippable ad, introduction, spsonor, unskippable ad.

The amount of advertising per actual content ratio is unacceptable. Plus the same 3 or 4 ads repeat themselves constantly.

If have to hear Tom Brady talk about Hertz one more time, I might inflate a football up his ass.

One time I got 2 Hertz ads literally back to back. An unskippable 10 second one and a skippable 30 second one

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GhostFaceLeaks
07/02/23 8:35:17 AM
#103:


How long until they eventually just ban users for using adblock? That seems inevitable.

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CountCorvinus
07/02/23 8:45:43 AM
#104:


Maybe I'd turn off my adblocker if I didn't get served full length shitty Prager U videos as "advertisements", Neal.

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tripleh213
07/02/23 8:46:08 AM
#105:


CountCorvinus posted...
Maybe I'd turn off my adblocker if I didn't get served full length shitty Prager U videos as "advertisements", Neal.


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Monferno_AQW
07/02/23 11:08:40 AM
#106:


They get to make money off selling my data, I get to block their ads for free with uBlock Origin. That's a fair trade, IMO.

But I'd be willing to whitelist YouTube...on the condition I get 100% of all profits they make from selling my data.

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untrustful
07/02/23 11:11:20 AM
#107:


Turtlemayor333 posted...
What if someone creates an extension that allows the ad to play for the full duration but mutes the audio and opens up a tab with pictures of animals?

I feel like they're eventually going to make people do little quizzes about the ads. Answer 3 questions about the ad and if you get at least 2 wrong, you have to re-watch it. The infrastructure for this is already there. On YouTube TV they have surveys during the commercial breaks sometimes, and it's optional to interact with at this point but they could easily turn that survey into a quiz that you have to answer correctly to keep watching.

I don't know how people aren't seeing the questions about being forced to engage with advertising, like in 20 years they're going to be tracking your eyeballs and charging you a fee if you don't look at all the billboards when you walk down the street - the natural conclusion of "Adblock is theft."
Correct.

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Ratchetrockon
07/02/23 11:16:39 AM
#108:


Omg

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pokedude900
07/02/23 11:29:54 AM
#110:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I've even had ads interrupt songs

That shouldn't be possible unless it was like a medley or something. Midrolls can only be placed on videos that are 8 minutes or longer. And that's on the uploader rather than Youtube itself.

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Robot2600
07/02/23 11:35:08 AM
#111:


google is one of the richest companies in the world.

collectively tell them to go fuck themselves.

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PesticideDream
07/02/23 12:44:56 PM
#112:


It's not going anywhere. People are so cucked by these companies. They have the general population by the FOMO balls. Price hikes, DLC, microtransactions, loot boxes, account sharing blocking, ad-blocking, third-party app restricting, people will grunt about all of this and then these companies rake in millions to billions more.
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Takuya_Lee
07/02/23 1:01:54 PM
#113:


PesticideDream posted...
It's not going anywhere. People are so cucked by these companies. They have the general population by the FOMO balls. Price hikes, DLC, microtransactions, loot boxes, account sharing blocking, ad-blocking, third-party app restricting, people will grunt about all of this and then these companies rake in millions to billions more.

I disagree. People do push back on it, especially when it's very blatant. Micro transactions have not worked for some companies.

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Gwynevere
07/02/23 1:03:27 PM
#114:


I pay for YT premium since it used to be bundled with Google play music, and I consider it worth it, but I don't blame anyone for not buying it and using an ad blocker instead. People calling them leeches have huffed too much boot polish.

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Anteaterking
07/02/23 1:08:41 PM
#115:


I watch Youtube on my TV so my days of ad blocking have been far behind me.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/02/23 3:09:42 PM
#116:


Gwynevere posted...
I pay for YT premium since it used to be bundled with Google play music, and I consider it worth it, but I don't blame anyone for not buying it and using an ad blocker instead. People calling them leeches have huffed too much boot polish.

If someone contributes absolutely nothing to the sustainability of a platform, yet uses its resources, how is that not a parasitic relationship?

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Gwynevere
07/02/23 6:39:15 PM
#117:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If someone contributes absolutely nothing to the sustainability of a platform, yet uses its resources, how is that not a parasitic relationship?
Don't care. I'm not a Google investor so it's of little consequence to me if someone contributes or not.

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CADE_FOSTER
07/02/23 6:40:48 PM
#118:


If they harvest my information and sell it im literally giving them way more than they give me
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KajeI
07/02/23 6:44:11 PM
#119:


Surely I'm not the only person that gets stupid long ads on videos whenever I'm not using a ad-blocker right? I swear to god, multiple times I've put something on to listen to while I go to sleep or I'm in the shower and then some fucking 30+ minute long "ad" (because sometimes they're ads, and sometimes they're some fucking politician I've never heard of going on a 30 minute rant) will come on and play loud as fuck.

I tried to listen to a song once and the first ad I got was 15 minutes long. Fuck that shit.

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willythemailboy
07/02/23 6:51:11 PM
#120:


KajeI posted...
Surely I'm not the only person that gets stupid long ads on videos whenever I'm not using a ad-blocker right? I swear to god, multiple times I've put something on to listen to while I go to sleep or I'm in the shower and then some fucking 30+ minute long "ad" (because sometimes they're ads, and sometimes they're some fucking politician I've never heard of going on a 30 minute rant) will come on and play loud as fuck.

I tried to listen to a song once and the first ad I got was 15 minutes long. Fuck that shit.
I've also seen multiple creators complaining that videos which had been demonetized for being "advertiser unfriendly" still get multiple midroll ads placed in them. The only difference being that the creator doesn't see a penny of that ad revenue. On occasion videos the creator intentionally demonetizes gets the same treatment.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...
And then if you're watching a youtuber, they will have their own in video sponsorships on top of the ads. So you'll get unskippable ad, introduction, spsonor, unskippable ad.
This is a direct result of how the Youtube ad split screws creators. They don't see much revenue from the ads so they have to get direct support from advertisers to stay afloat.

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creativeme
07/02/23 7:09:10 PM
#121:


i mainly watch on my phone or tv and can't block the ads so doesn't change anything for me.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/02/23 7:42:37 PM
#122:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
If they harvest my information and sell it im literally giving them way more than they give me

Your info ain't worth a fraction of what you think it is

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mach25687
07/02/23 7:44:05 PM
#123:


Well, look like I'm going to the daily for the videos fix.

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chaos_knight
07/02/23 7:45:38 PM
#124:


Pay for Premium already then, cheapskates. It's worth it.

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voldothegr8
07/02/23 7:58:22 PM
#125:


chaos_knight posted...
Pay for Premium already then, cheapskates. It's worth it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/2/AAfVq7AADuxw.jpg

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CADE_FOSTER
07/02/23 7:59:30 PM
#126:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Your info ain't worth a fraction of what you think it is
Fake news
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Null_Gain
07/02/23 8:04:27 PM
#127:


Remember when we were all so confident Netflix was shooting itself in the foot for going after password sharing and they ended up gaining a crap ton of new accounts instead? I think that's how this'll turn out. YouTube knows it's too much of an addiction for consumers to write off

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chaos_knight
07/02/23 8:20:12 PM
#128:


voldothegr8 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/2/AAfVq7AADuxw.jpg

Alright, cool. Keep bitching about changes while I keep the same level of content to watch without ads.

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Gwynevere
07/02/23 8:26:03 PM
#129:


chaos_knight posted...
Alright, cool. Keep bitching about changes while I keep the same level of content to watch without ads.
You really think YouTube is gonna win the battle against ad blockers?
https://youtu.be/FkMWsO_-X7Y

People have been finding ways to get shit for free since the dawn of the internet. That's never going to change

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/02/23 8:28:18 PM
#130:


Gwynevere posted...
You really think YouTube is gonna win the battle against ad blockers?
https://youtu.be/FkMWsO_-X7Y

People have been finding ways to get shit for free since the dawn of the internet. That's never going to change

Yes.
Plus they can ultimately move to a pay account model or simple limit the number of videos you can watch with a free account.

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b_nolan
07/02/23 8:32:16 PM
#131:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Yes.
Plus they can ultimately move to a pay account model or simple limit the number of videos you can watch with a free account.
That wouldn't really be them winning, more like taking there ball and going home.

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DnDer
07/02/23 8:41:23 PM
#132:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If someone contributes absolutely nothing to the sustainability of a platform, yet uses its resources, how is that not a parasitic relationship?

My child.

You know how much revenue is generated by Google for the collection of browser and system profiles from even non-google accounts watching YouTube?

Even if someone is using ad block, that someone is Google's product, generating revenue without ever knowing it for Google.

Tell me who's the parasite in that exchange.

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Cheater87
07/02/23 8:45:21 PM
#133:


I have extensions to block ads AND sponsors.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/02/23 8:53:15 PM
#134:


DnDer posted...
You know how much revenue is generated by Google for the collection of browser and system profiles from even non-google accounts watching YouTube?

Do you?
Not enough to be sustainable I suspect.

Even if someone is using ad block, that someone is Google's product, generating revenue without ever knowing it for Google.

Who the fuck doesn't know about metadata harvesting at this point?

Tell me who's the parasite in that exchange.

The person violating YouTube's tos.

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voldothegr8
07/02/23 8:59:43 PM
#135:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The person violating YouTube's tos.
You mean their parasitic TOS. Parasites breed parasites.

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The_Wheelman1
07/02/23 9:02:54 PM
#136:


chaos_knight posted...
Pay for Premium already then, cheapskates. It's worth it.
https://youtu.be/lPFlxN5InK0

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GuerrillaSoldier
07/02/23 9:07:26 PM
#137:


they fucked up by having it free for years in the first place

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Slaya4
07/02/23 9:10:50 PM
#138:


I'd rather they just find other ways to save data on their servers like getting rid of 4k instead of forcing ads upon us.

Either way, it's going to come a point where they start deleting videos if we keep using ad blocker. I'm not a shill for Google of all cooperations, but I can see the writing on the wall. Deleting internet history seems odd to me.

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Gwynevere
07/02/23 9:25:31 PM
#139:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Yes
Refer back to the video I posted

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Questionmarktarius
07/02/23 9:27:44 PM
#140:


Thompson posted...
Imagine a future where sunglasses have been outlawed, and then imagine that there will be corporate bootlickers saying that is a good thing.

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Ricemills
07/02/23 9:32:44 PM
#141:


Irony posted...
I've minimized videos all the time when I don't have premium you guys must be watching some weird shit

What kind of minimize?
The minimize screen while still on the app, or the minimize the player screen and still running while using other apps?

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Kajagogo
07/02/23 9:46:32 PM
#142:


I don't have Ad Blocker, but if an ad does start, I just hit the back button, then the forward button, and that just overrides ads. Takes less than a second.

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chaos_knight
07/02/23 10:07:43 PM
#143:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Yes.
Plus they can ultimately move to a pay account model or simple limit the number of videos you can watch with a free account.

Twitter is already going that route. But the rest of you all, keep flailing about thinking you are fighting the machine. In the end, the machine always wins.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/02/23 10:14:02 PM
#144:


chaos_knight posted...
Twitter is already going that route. But the rest of you all, keep flailing about thinking you are fighting the machine. In the end, the machine always wins.
Oh yeah, Twitter certainly does seem like it's winning right now

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Kazer
07/03/23 7:34:15 AM
#146:


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TomClark
07/03/23 7:43:25 AM
#147:


Error1355 posted...
I've been paying for Premium for years and have zero regrets over it. I use YouTube more than any other streaming platform so it was an easy choice.

This

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LeCh0nk
07/03/23 8:29:35 AM
#148:


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No. Because Twitter blue doesn't get me anything. YouTube premium does. i get vids while screen is off, I can play videos and browse at the same time on my phone, and I get YouTube music.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/03/23 8:37:15 AM
#149:


FolkenRawr posted...
Blocking ads is obviously great, but the real benefit is being able to minimize YT on mobile so I can keep surfing/whatever

Have had premium for many years now and absolutely love it.
I can do that too on my browser without premium. It's pretty awesome

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/03/23 8:38:36 AM
#150:


Anyway, what's the estimated percentage of views that have an ad blocker enabled? I'd imagine it's not actually that high.

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