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Zikten
06/26/23 11:36:14 PM
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https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/closing-arguments-set-in-trial-of-scot-peterson-ex-broward-deputy-charged-in-parkland-school-shooting/3060321/

Accused of hiding during a mass shooting.

Here is the defense closing argument

https://youtu.be/58xuUr6ucmM

Here is the prosecution

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Priere
06/26/23 11:37:38 PM
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Throw the book at him

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kingdrake2
06/27/23 12:03:18 AM
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Priere posted...
Throw the book at him

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The-Apostle
06/27/23 1:08:43 AM
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Dude messed up and deserves to go to prison for what he didn't do (protect the children).

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Liu_Kano
06/27/23 1:11:07 AM
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He would've been better off dying in battle against the shooter. Better to die with honor than live a coward.

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CADE_FOSTER
06/27/23 1:15:53 AM
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He was the original uvalde cop
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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:19:22 AM
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Probably will get a lot of heat for this but I think its ridiculous people on the internet are trying to tell someone how to react in an active shooter situation. Most people on here would do the same thing.

Not saying the guy should be applauded at all but people need to stop acting like they would have ran in their guns blazing. No you wouldnt.

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TheShadowViper
06/27/23 1:20:15 AM
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To be clear he is being tried for child neglect not an accessory to murder or anything like that.

I think even if there is a conviction this is being overturned on appeal. A cop is not a "caregiver" for children at school. Moreover, US law dictates that cops do not have to risk their lives for others.

This guy should be fired. He should be shamed. But a crime? Not in the way US law is currently written.
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DoctorPiranha3
06/27/23 1:20:42 AM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
He was the original uvalde cop

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:22:13 AM
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TheShadowViper posted...
To be clear he is being tried for child neglect not an accessory to murder or anything like that.

I think even if there is a conviction this is being overturned on appeal. A cop is not a "caregiver" for children at school. Moreover, US law dictates that cops do not have to risk their lives for others.

This guy should be fired. He should be shamed. But a crime? Not in the way US law is currently written.

Completely ridiculous people are acting like he should be in jail for not throwing his life away.

Blame the gunman. Blame the people allowing guns on the street without limit. Dont blame a dude just trying to get home to his family.

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xGhostchantx
06/27/23 1:22:17 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Most people on here would do the same thing.

The point is that they're not most people and that they're trained to react appropriately to these situations, doofus.

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:24:15 AM
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xGhostchantx posted...
The point is that they're not most people and that they're trained to react appropriately to these situations, doofus.

No amount of training changes the fact that people have a fight or flight human instinct in life or death situations, doofus.

Use your brain. You are sitting comfortably at home probably trying to lecture people how to react with bullets flying. Youre a clown.

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DoctorPiranha3
06/27/23 1:24:53 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Completely ridiculous people are acting like he should be in jail for not throwing his life away.

Blame the gunman. Blame the people allowing guns on the street without limit. Dont blame a dude just trying to get home to his family.
Better to die a hero than running like a wimpy coward and living forever in shame knowing you did fuck all to save kids lives

Captains are held legally responsible if they leave any of their crew members to die. So should cowardly cops like this
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BurmesePenguin
06/27/23 1:29:33 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
No amount of training changes the fact that people have a fight or flight human instinct in life or death situations, doofus.
I would say that, not linking it up to this case in particular, depending on your chosen profession you have a duty to fight off your brain's wrong responses in certain situations and if you fail to you should be held liable.

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cjsdowg
06/27/23 1:29:41 AM
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There have been like 3 people named Scott Peterson in national cases

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A_Good_Boy
06/27/23 1:36:53 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Probably will get a lot of heat for this but I think its ridiculous people on the internet are trying to tell someone how to react in an active shooter situation. Most people on here would do the same thing.

Not saying the guy should be applauded at all but people need to stop acting like they would have ran in their guns blazing. No you wouldnt.
Then he shouldn't have been a cop. It's bullshit that he's perfectly fine with upholding his duties when it comes to harassing and ruining the lives of black school children as a resource officer, but when it actually comes to protecting people he wants to do a different job. Fuck Scott Peterson and fuck all those bullshit ass cops. They'll happily take all the perks of the profession but none of the risk.

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Carljank
06/27/23 1:38:44 AM
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Such a pussy loser

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:39:13 AM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Better to die a hero than running like a wimpy coward and living forever in shame knowing you did fuck all to save kids lives

Captains are held legally responsible if they leave any of their crew members to die. So should cowardly cops like this


DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Better to die a hero than running like a wimpy coward and living forever in shame knowing you did fuck all to save kids lives

Captains are held legally responsible if they leave any of their crew members to die. So should cowardly cops like this

Very easy to say when you are not in that situation.

BurmesePenguin posted...
I would say that, not linking it up to this case in particular, depending on your chosen profession you have a duty to fight off your brain's wrong responses in certain situations and if you fail to you should be held liable.

Self preservation is natural instinct. Dude probably lost his job, retirement, and any chance at being an officer again. To me, that is being held liable. He doesnt need angry mobs and keyboard warriors calling him a coward and calling for his imprisonment.

Have some compassion. We all know that dude took that job thinking he would never be in that situation. Its not his fault a lunatic with a gun came in. Its a traumatizing experience. He will feel guilty the rest of his life as is.

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mybbqrules
06/27/23 1:39:25 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Then he shouldn't have been a cop. It's bullshit that he's perfectly fine with upholding his duties when it comes to harassing and ruining the lives of black school children as a resource officer, but when it actually comes to protecting people he wants to do a different job. Fuck Scott Peterson and fuck all those bullshit ass cops. They'll happily take all the perks of the profession but none of the risk.
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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:41:01 AM
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You know I really hope when any of you are in a bad position that people show a little more compassion than you all do.

Nothing is going to bring those kids back. There is no need for this at this point. Hatred solves nothing.

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Carljank
06/27/23 1:42:01 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
You know I really hope when any of you are in a bad position that people show a little more compassion than you all do.

Nothing is going to bring those kids back. There is no need for this at this point. Hatred solves nothing.

Stop acting like you have any moral superiority here clown.

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A_Good_Boy
06/27/23 1:43:27 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
You know I really hope when any of you are in a bad position that people show a little more compassion than you all do.

Nothing is going to bring those kids back. There is no need for this at this point. Hatred solves nothing.
Don't be a cop if you can't help people.
Don't be a doctor if you can't help people.
Don't be a firefighter if you can't help people.

Don't be a first responder if you can't do your job.

Fuck Scott Peterson, any consequence he receives is too good for him. He deserves much worse.

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BurmesePenguin
06/27/23 1:43:54 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Self preservation is natural instinct. Dude probably lost his job, retirement, and any chance at being an officer again. To me, that is being held liable. He doesnt need angry mobs and keyboard warriors calling him a coward and calling for his imprisonment.

Have some compassion. We all know that dude took that job thinking he would never be in that situation. Its not his fault a lunatic with a gun came in. Its a traumatizing experience. He will feel guilty the rest of his life as is.
I do think that internet teenagers and almost teenagers at heart shitting all over this guy is unhelpful, but I also think your thoughts on the matter are kind of dangerous if broadly applied, if not at the particular case at hand.

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:43:54 AM
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Carljank posted...
Stop acting like you have any moral superiority here clown.

You guys are the ones on your high horse trying to criticize someone for running from an active shooter.

This isnt Call of Duty. Literally everyone in this topic would do the same thing. I see right through this bullshit. Typical GameFAQS mob mentality.

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Eramir
06/27/23 1:44:37 AM
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If Im assigned security guard for a school Id do my job, dude is a little bitch

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Carljank
06/27/23 1:47:42 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
You guys are the ones on your high horse trying to criticize someone for running from an active shooter.

This isnt Call of Duty. Literally everyone in this topic would do the same thing. I see right through this bullshit. Typical GameFAQS mob mentality.
And you are the one defending child neglect.

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:48:27 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Don't be a cop if you can't help people.
Don't be a doctor if you can't help people.
Don't be a firefighter if you can't help people.

Don't be a first responder if you can't do your job.

Fuck Scott Peterson, any consequence he receives is too good for him. He deserves much worse.

Ah, yes because showing everyone if you make a mistake we will throw in you jail is a good way to entice people right?

Its dumb. This isnt productive in any way. This dude isnt a threat to society. Throwing him in jail accomplishes nothing except giving the mob something to calm them down.


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A_Good_Boy
06/27/23 1:53:33 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Ah, yes because showing everyone if you make a mistake we will throw in you jail is a good way to entice people right?

Its dumb. This isnt productive in any way. This dude isnt a threat to society. Throwing him in jail accomplishes nothing except giving the mob something to calm them down.
Who gives a shit about enticing cowards to be cops? If Scott Peterson's trial and sentencing is enough to curtail even more like minded cowards like him away from the profession then that's a good thing. It's not all just about beating up black kids, sometimes they have to help people too.

And it's absolutely productive. Cops have the training, they have the equipment, they have the means to protect kids in a school shooting. All those kids had where their delicate bodies and he allowed them to die while he hid. Throwing him in jail accomplishes plenty; it's a deterrent and a warning to other pieces of shit. Do your job or fucking quit. He's a fucking leech on his community.

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Carljank
06/27/23 1:56:06 AM
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This is Tenlaar's cop bootlicking posting style.

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 2:12:17 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Who gives a shit about enticing cowards to be cops? If Scott Peterson's trial and sentencing is enough to curtail even more like minded cowards like him away from the profession then that's a good thing. It's not all just about beating up black kids, sometimes they have to help people too.

And it's absolutely productive. Cops have the training, they have the equipment, they have the means to protect kids in a school shooting. All those kids had where their delicate bodies and he allowed them to die while he hid. Throwing him in jail accomplishes plenty; it's a deterrent and a warning to other pieces of shit. Do your job or fucking quit. He's a fucking leech on his community.

And you arent a coward? You sit here and bitch online about what someone else should have done because you are too scared to do it yourself.

Get over yourself. You guys are not tough. You wouldnt have done shit. Just stop.

If you feel that strongly about it then please go be a cop and show people how its done. So tired of people bitching online about stuff they will never actually do anything about. Enough with the fake outrage.

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 2:14:47 AM
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Jesus Christ I hate cops but this is ridiculous. Dude is a fucking school cop. Hes one step up from Paul Blart. Get real.

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A_Good_Boy
06/27/23 2:20:06 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
And you arent a coward? You sit here and bitch online about what someone else should have done because you are too scared to do it yourself.

Get over yourself. You guys are not tough. You wouldnt have done shit. Just stop.
In any other instance where a sheepdog allowed a wolf to slaughter it's flock while it hid in the bushes it would be put down.

Of course Scott Peterson isn't going to be executed for his abdication of duty, but if the cop's own favored analogy of their profession were to stay true, then whatever punishment he receives short of it is one he should be grateful for.

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Nasty_Nitro
06/27/23 2:21:51 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Completely ridiculous people are acting like he should be in jail for not throwing his life away.

Blame the gunman. Blame the people allowing guns on the street without limit. Dont blame a dude just trying to get home to his family.

If cops are afraid to kill terrorists but not afraid to beat up unarmed people then it puts the whole concept of their purpose into perspective. Are they really doing anything?


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Zikten
06/27/23 3:35:10 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
You know I really hope when any of you are in a bad position that people show a little more compassion than you all do.

Nothing is going to bring those kids back. There is no need for this at this point. Hatred solves nothing.
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The_Wheelman1
06/27/23 3:41:49 AM
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He failed to do the very thing that he signed up for. He deserves to be punished.

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 4:01:34 AM
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Zikten posted...
It might save future student lives at the next big school shooting, if guards know they will be punished if they hide

Punishment isnt the way to correct behavior. Education is.

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Shadow_Don
06/27/23 4:14:23 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Most people on here would do the same thing.

Im not sure if I'd be able to run head first into a mass shooting either but he is the one who signed up for the job.

Would it not be outrageous if the on duty life guard lied on his resume about his ability to swim and someone drowned as a result?

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Foppe
06/27/23 4:21:19 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Im not sure if I'd be able to run head first into a mass shooting either but he is the one who signed up for the job.

Would it not be outrageous if the on duty life guard lied on his resume about his ability to swim and someone drowned as a result?
Somebody is drowning?
I think I will hide behind these bushes, perhaps somebody else will save him...

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MrDrMan
06/27/23 4:30:52 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Im not sure if I'd be able to run head first into a mass shooting either but he is the one who signed up for the job.

Would it not be outrageous if the on duty life guard lied on his resume about his ability to swim and someone drowned as a result?

Saying he lied implies premeditation. I dont believe thats the case here.

Besides that lifeguards are trained not to attempt rescue if conditions are at a certain point. If you go into obviously dangerous waters and drown how is the lifeguard at fault? Not saying thats the case here but why are we blaming this guy instead of the person that killed 18 people?

Not once has the shooters name been mentioned. This guys name has been dragged through the mud constantly. To me, it doesnt make sense. He was in the wrong but there was no malicious intent. He should definitely be in a different line of work though.


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MrDrMan
06/27/23 4:37:19 AM
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I honestly believe this kind of mob mentality and negativity is what creates school shooters. You make a mistake, you deserve to be punished, you are without redemption. One day this guy will be back into society and how do you expect him to react when the whole country is dumping on him?

A man that feels he has nothing to lose is a very dangerous man. I just dont see any upside to this at all.

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Avirosb
06/27/23 4:49:46 AM
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Foppe posted...
Somebody is drowning?
I think I will hide behind these bushes, perhaps somebody else will save him...

Oh god, where is the drowning coming from?!

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ButteryMales
06/27/23 5:03:14 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
I honestly believe this kind of mob mentality and negativity is what creates school shooters.
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TonyKojima
06/27/23 5:06:36 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Very easy to say when you are not in that situation.

Self preservation is natural instinct. Dude probably lost his job, retirement, and any chance at being an officer again. To me, that is being held liable. He doesnt need angry mobs and keyboard warriors calling him a coward and calling for his imprisonment.

Have some compassion. We all know that dude took that job thinking he would never be in that situation. Its not his fault a lunatic with a gun came in. Its a traumatizing experience. He will feel guilty the rest of his life as is.
Ughh the virtue signaling here is gross.

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indica
06/27/23 5:08:08 AM
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Carljank posted...
Such a pussy loser
Pussies are super powerful you misogynist >_>

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Avirosb
06/27/23 5:12:58 AM
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The whole of American society share an equal part of blame in this matter.
If cops can't be expected to protect civilians, what hope is there for a school guard?

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Dark_Arbron
06/27/23 5:20:16 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
If cops are afraid to kill terrorists but not afraid to beat up unarmed people then it puts the whole concept of their purpose into perspective. Are they really doing anything?

As an Australian, its baffling to me that American schools have fucking police in them. What is wrong with that country?

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Crazyman93
06/27/23 5:30:32 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Most people on here would do the same thing.
The difference is that we aren't being paid to defend school kids.

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Dark_Arbron
06/27/23 5:34:45 AM
#48:


Crazyman93 posted...
The difference is that we aren't being paid to defend school kids.

I highly doubt thats why theyre there. In fact I dont have to doubt - dont we know for a fact that legally speaking a cop is not obligated to intervene?

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Avirosb
06/27/23 5:35:05 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
The difference is that we aren't being paid to defend school kids.
They don't get paid to defend school kids.
They get paid to rough up delinquents and confiscate drugs.

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Dark_Arbron
06/27/23 5:37:21 AM
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Avirosb posted...
They don't get paid to defend school kids.
They get paid to rough up delinquents and confiscate drugs.

And to apprehend students who try to escape.

Not a service we really need in Australia, but were not the greatest country in the world so I guess I should check my privilege.

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