Current Events > Judge Cannon wastes no time, hands Trump a win. Rules no sealed witness list.

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darkace77450
06/26/23 7:29:28 PM
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4068732-judge-in-trump-case-denies-governments-motion-to-shield-potential-witnesses/

The Florida judge overseeing the Justice Departments (DOJ) classified documents case against former President Trump rejected the governments motion to file witnesses under seal on Monday.

Judge Aileen Cannon, who was appointed by Trump, rejected a request from special counsel Jack Smiths office to file a sealed list of 84 potential witnesses provided to Trumps legal team.

Let the witness intimidation begin!
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Robot2600
06/26/23 7:30:07 PM
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what could the reasoning possibly be

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Humble_Novice
06/26/23 7:33:13 PM
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The 11th circuit will put that weasel in her place again!

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Carljank
06/26/23 7:35:07 PM
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Evil asshole

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thronedfire2
06/26/23 7:35:53 PM
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So how long before the witnesses start getting death threats?

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Humble_Novice
06/26/23 7:36:20 PM
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https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1673421446452768778

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Trumpo
06/26/23 7:36:33 PM
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Democracy is dead

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Humble_Novice
06/26/23 7:37:58 PM
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Trumpo posted...
Democracy is dead
What's with the doom posting? This isn't even over.

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Cheater87
06/26/23 7:38:15 PM
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The GOP wants democracy to die in the US.

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Solar_Crimson
06/26/23 7:38:44 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1673421446452768778
Hopefully.

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Squall28
06/26/23 7:39:38 PM
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Why is a Florida judge over this case?

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Humble_Novice
06/26/23 7:43:06 PM
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A reminder that this judge got harshly humiliated by the right-wing 11th circuit not once, but twice.

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Intro2Logic
06/26/23 7:44:38 PM
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Squall28 posted...
Why is a Florida judge over this case?
Because the crime happened in Florida

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X8Azazel8X
06/26/23 7:45:23 PM
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That was for his protection as much as theirs. Now he will attempt it and more charges will be brought against him.

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LightHawKnight
06/26/23 7:46:05 PM
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Still dont get how the fuck this level of corruption is legal.

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famfam
06/26/23 7:46:11 PM
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what's wrong with knowing who witnesses are? worried they'll commit even more crimes while under intense scrutiny in a situation where everyone will 100% be watching them and looking for this exact thing?
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DrizztLink
06/26/23 7:47:03 PM
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famfam posted...
what's wrong with knowing who witnesses are? worried they'll commit even more crimes while under intense scrutiny in a situation where everyone will 100% be watching them and looking for this exact thing?
Try thinking the thought all the way through.

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Irony
06/26/23 7:47:54 PM
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famfam posted...
what's wrong with knowing who witnesses are? worried they'll commit even more crimes while under intense scrutiny in a situation where everyone will 100% be watching them and looking for this exact thing?
You're confused

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tremain07
06/26/23 7:49:22 PM
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Whelp, there goes the case, no way in hell would any of the witnesses come forward into the spotlight for Trump and the right wing to paint targets on their backs, Don't believe me, look at what Trump and Ghoulini did to those two election counters, even after being cleared of any wrong doing both of the mom and the daughter are still getting harassed to this day by right wingers.

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Irony
06/26/23 7:56:08 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Whelp, there goes the case, no way in hell would any of the witnesses come forward into the spotlight for Trump and the right wing to paint targets on their backs, Don't believe me, look at what Trump and Ghoulini did to those two election counters, even after being cleared of any wrong doing both of the mom and the daughter are still getting harassed to this day by right wingers.
Shut the fuck up Duncan

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Sandalorn
06/26/23 7:57:54 PM
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famfam posted...
what's wrong with knowing who witnesses are? worried they'll commit even more crimes while under intense scrutiny in a situation where everyone will 100% be watching them and looking for this exact thing?

/facepalm.

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Tyranthraxus
06/26/23 8:05:02 PM
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Squall28 posted...
Why is a Florida judge over this case?
It was filed in Florida.

It's also not the complete list of charges so they can refile in DC if they have to.

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TentacleDemon
06/26/23 8:07:12 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Judge Aileen Cannon, who was appointed by Trump,

WTF is this person even involved? Nobody whonwas given their job by the accused should ever be involved in their case like this.


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Irony
06/26/23 8:07:36 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It was filed in Florida.

It's also not the complete list of charges so they can refile in DC if they have to.
If they could have filed in DC they probably should have done that from the start instead of creating their own headache

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Gritty
06/26/23 8:08:46 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1673421446452768778
Kick that bitch! kick that bitch!
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Gritty
06/26/23 8:09:25 PM
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TentacleDemon posted...
WTF is this person even involved? Nobody whonwas given their job by the accused should ever be involved in their case like this.
Republicans
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Strider102
06/26/23 8:17:25 PM
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See MAGAts, this is what corruption actually looks like.

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YourBestFrenemy
06/26/23 8:22:35 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
what could the reasoning possibly be

darkace77450 posted...
Let the witness intimidation begin!


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Medussa
06/26/23 8:23:27 PM
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...into the sun

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Intro2Logic
06/26/23 8:25:26 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Whelp, there goes the case, no way in hell would any of the witnesses come forward into the spotlight for Trump and the right wing to paint targets on their backs, Don't believe me, look at what Trump and Ghoulini did to those two election counters, even after being cleared of any wrong doing both of the mom and the daughter are still getting harassed to this day by right wingers.
^guy who spent the Trump years seeing signs of his imminent re-election in his morning cereal

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Full_Pokedex
06/26/23 8:27:01 PM
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Irony posted...
Shut the fuck up Duncan
That's not me and furthermore Tremain predates my coming here.

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Irony
06/26/23 8:27:33 PM
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No one said it was you Duncan

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Full_Pokedex
06/26/23 8:28:21 PM
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Irony posted...
No one said it was you Duncan
You did. Post 20.

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darkace77450
06/26/23 8:40:40 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
what could the reasoning possibly be

Per the article in the OP.

The Governments Motion does not explain why filing the list with the Court is necessary; it does not offer a particularized basis to justify sealing the list from public view; it does not explain why partial sealing, redaction, or means other than sealing are unavailable or unsatisfactory; and it does not specify the duration of any proposed seal

Humble_Novice posted...
A reminder that this judge got harshly humiliated by the right-wing 11th circuit not once, but twice.

But learned nothing from the experience.

TentacleDemon posted...
WTF is this person even involved? Nobody whonwas given their job by the accused should ever be involved in their case like this.

Remember, judges appointed by Democrats and judges of ethnic heritage aren't allowed to oversee Trump cases because they're biased. But Trump appointees aren't expected to recuse themselves because the right would have no standards if not for double standards.
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ooger
06/26/23 8:49:37 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
You did. Post 20.
Shut up Duncan.

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Full_Pokedex
06/26/23 9:01:49 PM
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ooger posted...
Shut up Duncan.
Gaslighting isn't going to work on me.

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Carljank
06/26/23 9:04:42 PM
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famfam posted...
what's wrong with knowing who witnesses are? worried they'll commit even more crimes while under intense scrutiny in a situation where everyone will 100% be watching them and looking for this exact thing?
So are you okay with witnesses receiving death threats?

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loafy013
06/26/23 9:06:44 PM
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darkace77450 posted...


Remember, judges appointed by Democrats and judges of ethnic heritage aren't allowed to oversee Trump cases because they're biased. But Trump appointees aren't expected to recuse themselves because the right would have no standards if not for double standards.
They can't even be on the Disney case because a relative owns like $300 in stock.

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DepreceV2
06/26/23 9:07:46 PM
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I thought this judge might try just a little harder to save face after her initial debacle. I was expecting too much it seems

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DrizztLink
06/26/23 9:09:37 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
Gaslighting isn't going to work on me.
Gaslighting routinely works on you.

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DepreceV2
06/26/23 9:11:33 PM
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Quite the Hail Mary there for her.

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Dabrikishaw15
06/26/23 9:13:14 PM
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Yeah this is sad to learn about.

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au_gold
06/26/23 9:16:26 PM
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Fuck Aileen Cannon.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/26/23 9:24:30 PM
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Here's the thing:

First, Trump and his defense team already have the list and know who the witnesses are, because that's a basic part of the process of discovery. The purpose of the government's request to seal the witness list is to hide their identities from the media.

Second, she actually isn't doing anything out of the ordinary here.

Motion to seal:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23859157-33-usa-mt-impl-sp-cond-of-release

Local rules of the Southern District of Florida:
https://www.flsd.uscourts.gov/sites/flsd/files/22-11-15%202022%20Local%20Rules%20effective%20120122%20-%20FINAL.pdf

c.f. 5.4(c)(1). The motion to seal was improperly filed because it neither gave the specific details required of the filing, nor did it describe the length of time of the requested sealing.

All the government has to do here is refile the motion, but actually follow the rules and say what they're supposed to say.

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ChainsawFerret
06/26/23 9:25:08 PM
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Don't mind me, folks, just trying to figure out what kind of cereal box Aileen Cannon got her law license from. Anyone know what the equivalent to a "quack" would be for lawyers?


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Fluttershy
06/26/23 9:29:44 PM
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Anyone know what the equivalent to a "quack" would be for lawyers?

'hack'

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IfGodCouldDie
06/26/23 9:37:09 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
You did. Post 20.
Yes we already know you have absolutely zero understanding of how things like analogies, metaphors, similies, puns and other such creative uses of words work. Sit down and shut the fuck up. Your opinion on anything should be kept to yourself because all you ever fucking do is embarrass yourself to no fucking end.

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Tyranthraxus
06/26/23 9:42:42 PM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Anyone know what the equivalent to a "quack" would be for lawyers?
Hutz

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DrizztLink
06/26/23 9:46:26 PM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Don't mind me, folks, just trying to figure out what kind of cereal box Aileen Cannon got her law license from. Anyone know what the equivalent to a "quack" would be for lawyers?
Shyster, but it may or may not be antisemitic.

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