Current Events > Are the criminals in the US more hardcore than the rest of the world?

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I'm just basing this on the recidivism rate in America compared to other areas around the world where criminals are apparently actually rehabilitated. Does our society just create spawns of disillusioned sociopaths/psychopaths that are naturally more extreme than their counterparts in other countries? I'm starting to think so.

I believe the most hardcore criminals are in Mexico.

Zikten posted...

I believe the most hardcore criminals are in Mexico.

Ive seen some brutal snuff videos that originate from there. Also from South American countries mainly Brazil tho.

But I know Africa has groups that destroy entire villages and stuff like that using child soldiers.

Then Afghanistan has that one group that defeated the USA military

Sweden got underage teenagers that shoots into crowds because they might have seen somebody that maybe looks a little like their target.

The US prison system does nothing to treat the reason for why someone did a crime but provides every possible factor to make them more likely to commit crime in the future-- poverty, negative social environment, physical/mental/emotional abuse, official institutions openly existing to harm them

Definitly not.

I also have the assumption that the criminals in the US care much less about harming or even killing others than in most other western countries, but if we are talking globally?

Never.

No, our criminal justice system is just harsh and doesn't do anything to rehabilitate criminals. There's a lot of people in jail who haven't even been tried yet, and a fair amount are in for non-violent crimes.

Doe posted...

The US prison system does nothing to treat the reason for why someone did a crime but provides every possible factor to make them more likely to commit crime in the future-- poverty, negative social environment, physical/mental/emotional abuse, official institutions openly existing to harm them

Alongside private prisons
Coincidence?

Come to think of it...MS-13 are a group from the southern border and they operate in the US as well. Why is crime so high in Mexico and in the South?

TodorokiHayato posted...

Come to think of it...MS-13 are a group from the southern border and they operate in the US as well. Why is crime so high in Mexico and in the South?

The war on drugs providing the cartels with their primary market helps.

Drugs are astronomically profitable, especially selling them to wealthy first world countries like the US. They earn so much money that they incentivize the formation of power structures so producers can protect their operations, products, supply chain and money. The Mexican government is not wealthy enough to both quash those groups and resist corruption via their wealth. And they are not necessarily the highest priority problem since most of the product gets exported and then brings wealth inside the country's borders.

Doe posted...

Drugs are astronomically profitable, especially selling them to wealthy first world countries like the US. They earn so much money that they incentivize the formation of power structures so producers can protect their operations, products, supply chain and money. The Mexican government is not wealthy enough to both quash those groups and resist corruption via their wealth. And they are not necessarily the highest priority problem since most of the product gets exported and then brings wealth inside the country's borders.

So why can't the US just come with a false narrative and invade those corrupt groups? They've done it before to other countries, I'm sure they can do it again. That seems like a more practical solution than just accepting those power of evil as something ubiquitous.

I feel this is a competition that no one should want to win.

Foppe posted...

Sweden got underage teenagers that shoots into crowds because they might have seen somebody that maybe looks a little like their target.

I thought Sweden was a good place to be where shit like that didn't happen?

Violent criminals were exported from the U.S. back to Central America and formed what are still the most violent gangs there based on their U.S. created affiliations.

Snakethief posted...

Lol Canadian criminals are more hardcore

sounds like an oxymoron lol

No way, not compared to Mexico or Brazil (granted a lot of the kinds of hardcore crime we have in this country in the modern day descend from people who expanded from those regions and brought that kind of criminality to the US). Organized crime in Asia is also pretty brutal.

No board on GameFAQs has more people who put me on their Ignore lists than this board.

I fucking hate it here.

We're the greatest country in the world, but also full of so many more stupid and violent people than anywhere else that it is scary to even walk out the front door.

/logic

I'm not an expert but based on all the documentaries I've seen, Brazilian and Russian prisons look a lot more hardcore and dangerous.

Priere posted...

I thought Sweden was a good place to be where shit like that didn't happen?

It was. Still is pretty good outside the big cities.
This is the result of a failed PC social integration that has been going on for decades.

Snakethief posted...

You gotta remember that Canadians are in jail for legit crimes while Americans get arrested for jaywalking, being black, and smoking pot

I'm going to presume they also play Ice Hockey or have the same proclivity for violence as those players.

Russian

CRON posted...

I'm not an expert but based on all the documentaries I've seen, Brazilian and Russian prisons look a lot more hardcore and dangerous.

Russian prisons are no-nonsense. While some of that could be attributed to Soviet-era practices they also have some pretty ruthless people who served in the Russian mob so it's not unwarranted.

TodorokiHayato posted...

I'm just basing this on the recidivism rate in America compared to other areas around the world where criminals are apparently actually rehabilitated.

Countries that try to rehabilitate generally have better results. Our prison system is focused on punishing not rehabilitating. Our parole system is focused on making sure you don't screw up not helping you make good choices. We ennact a lot of barriers so that once you've been convicted of a crime it's a lot harder to obtain a job because of that question on most job applications.

Sweden's incarceration system is fantastic but it wouldn't work with a large population of people in jail.

hockeybub89 posted...

We're the greatest country in the world, but also full of so many more stupid and violent people than anywhere else that it is scary to even walk out the front door.

/logic

The US is far from the most violent country in the world, man. Like, it's not even close.

Solid_Sonic posted...

Sweden's incarceration system is fantastic but it wouldn't work with a large population of people in jail.

It was fantastic.
Let me tell you about the case of Swedens worst serial rapist.
He had raped over 24 sleeping and unconscious females and recorded eeverything. Most of them didnt even knew that they had been raped until the police identified them on the videos.
The court decided that it was 7 cases of rape and 14 cases of different forms of sexual assault. And some other forms of criminal activities.
His sentence?
5 years.
Which means he will be released after 3 years.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/1/AAA_aCAAEL3T.jpg
This was less than 2 years ago.

TodorokiHayato posted...

So why can't the US just come with a false narrative and invade those corrupt groups? They've done it before to other countries, I'm sure they can do it again. That seems like a more practical solution than just accepting those power of evil as something ubiquitous.

It's pointless. There is too much money in drugs and too many people are on the take to ever fully eliminate the problem. Given how much a failure the DEA (aka, the drug employment agency) is, it almost feels best just to legalize them and call it a day.