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Doe
06/23/23 11:35:36 PM
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It's as bad as calling a tanuki a raccoon

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DrizztLink
06/23/23 11:36:06 PM
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Ogre-chan

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HolierThanMao
06/23/23 11:36:40 PM
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or an obake a ghost
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R_Jackal
06/23/23 11:38:14 PM
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I feel like it's just a "close enough" folklore translation whenever that happens
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Smiffwilm
06/23/23 11:39:29 PM
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Onis are like onions...

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itcheyness
06/23/23 11:40:07 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
Onis are like onions...
Oh, they stink!

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Ricemills
06/23/23 11:40:35 PM
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Katana as Samurai.
Not Samurai Sword, just Samurai.

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Thud
06/23/23 11:40:45 PM
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ITT: First weeb problems

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Touch
06/23/23 11:41:15 PM
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What does it really translate to?

I always thought ogre because of the Onimusha games <__<

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Ricemills
06/23/23 11:43:22 PM
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Touch posted...
What does it really translate to?

I always thought ogre because of the Onimusha games <__<

Japanese Ogre, not western Ogre.

>_>

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uwnim
06/23/23 11:45:03 PM
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Calling an oni an ogre doesn't bother me. What does is calling a tengu a goblin.

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Ricemills
06/23/23 11:47:29 PM
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On the flip side, Japanese portrayal of orcs as humanoid pigs, kobolds as humanoid dogs, elves have long floppy ears also annoy me.

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Incredible
06/23/23 11:50:01 PM
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What you translate it as depends on the context. Oni is a blanket term for all sorts of mystical creatures, like Majin.

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Ricemills
06/23/23 11:50:32 PM
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Incredible posted...
What you translate it as depends on the context. Oni is a blanket term for all sorts of mystical creatures, like Majin.

Nice bait

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Incredible
06/23/23 11:52:11 PM
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Genie Man Boo!

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SomeLikeItHoth
06/23/23 11:53:30 PM
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Oni Man Boo?

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darkace77450
06/23/23 11:56:11 PM
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Touch posted...
What does it really translate to?

Oxygen Not Included, a fantastic colony builder game.
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sephiroth068
06/24/23 12:00:39 AM
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itcheyness posted...
Oh, they stink!
Ye-, NO!

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KeeperOfShadows
06/24/23 12:16:42 AM
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Touch posted...
What does it really translate to?

I always thought ogre because of the Onimusha games <__<
In most cases, it shouldn't be translated at all, as it's oftentimes used as the name of a demon race, and you usually don't translate proper nouns. Translating it as ogre or demon is close enough, but not entirely accurate (and a lot of anime fans are really uptight about proper translation).

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Tyranthraxus
06/24/23 12:27:41 AM
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Touch posted...
What does it really translate to?

It's kind of like a war spirit in the same sense that an elf is a nature spirit. It's probably best left untranslated.

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JoeDangIt
06/24/23 12:43:16 AM
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Ogre mage.
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gsninja
06/24/23 12:52:05 AM
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Doe posted...
It's as bad as calling a tanuki a raccoon
Ok Chopper

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itcheyness
06/24/23 11:07:11 AM
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sephiroth068 posted...
Ye-, NO!
Oh, they make you cry.

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Compsognathus
06/24/23 11:09:45 AM
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Getting all the masks so you can play as Ogre Link.

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DarkFists
06/24/23 11:12:42 AM
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Ricemills posted...
On the flip side, Japanese portrayal kobolds as humanoid dogs

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they confused Kobolds and Gnolls...though EverQuest also has kobolds being weird dog bear things...but yeah, I think the Japanese confused them with gnolls

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bsp77
06/24/23 11:19:57 AM
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The Oni in SMT certainly look a little ogre-like

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06/24/23 11:20:52 AM
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Incredible posted...
Genie Man Boo!

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vycebrand2
06/24/23 11:25:19 AM
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Ricemills posted...
On the flip side, Japanese portrayal of orcs as humanoid pigs, kobolds as humanoid dogs, elves have long floppy ears also annoy me.
Traditional elves had the long ears and were short. Tolkiens elves are something new. Also remember he pulled alot from Norse Myth. Gandalf was based on one of Odin's disguises as a old man in robes and widebrimmed pointy hat. Kolbolds actually are more like brownies. I have a story about that. I think they are actually a thing. While being a caretaker for my friend who was terminally ill. I had done a load of laundry. I had it laid out on the bed to be folded. She had called me to other side of the house. I was with her maybe a hour with no visitors. When I went back they were all folded. It freaked me out. Being a farm that's what the lore suggests they like to help but want a reward for doing so. They get angry when you dont. We put milk out just in case. I know its just superstition. Still a bit freaky.

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itcheyness
06/24/23 11:35:07 AM
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vycebrand2 posted...
Tolkiens elves are something new. Also remember he pulled alot from Norse Myth. Gandalf was based on one of Odin's disguises as a old man in robes and widebrimmed pointy hat.
Tolkien also fully ripped off the names of his dwarves (and Gandalf) from the Norse Poetic Edda

https://sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe03.htm

9. Then sought the gods | their assembly-seats,
The holy ones, | and council held,
To find who should raise | the race of dwarfs
Out of Brimir's blood | and the legs of Blain.

10. There was Motsognir | the mightiest made
Of all the dwarfs, | and Durin next;
Many a likeness | of men they made,
The dwarfs in the earth, | as Durin said.

11. Nyi and Nithi, | Northri and Suthri,
Austri and Vestri, | Althjof, Dvalin,
Nar and Nain, | Niping, Dain,
Bifur, Bofur, | Bombur, Nori,
An and Onar, | Ai, Mjothvitnir.

12. Vigg and Gandalf) | Vindalf, Thrain,
Thekk and Thorin, | Thror, Vit and Lit,
Nyr and Nyrath,-- | now have I told--
Regin and Rathsvith-- | the list aright.

13. Fili, Kili, | Fundin, Nali,
Heptifili, | Hannar, Sviur,
Frar, Hornbori, | Frg and Loni,
Aurvang, Jari, | Eikinskjaldi.

14. The race of the dwarfs | in Dvalin's throng
Down to Lofar | the list must I tell;
The rocks they left, | and through wet lands
They sought a home | in the fields of sand.

15. There were Draupnir | and Dolgthrasir,
Hor, Haugspori, | Hlevang, Gloin,
Dori, Ori, | Duf, Andvari,
Skirfir, Virfir, | Skafith, Ai.


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Smiffwilm
06/24/23 12:10:58 PM
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itcheyness posted...
Oh, they make you cry.
No!

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itcheyness
06/24/23 12:12:33 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
No!
Oh, you leave em out in the sun, they get all brown, start sproutin little white hairs.

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Smiffwilm
06/24/23 12:14:29 PM
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itcheyness posted...
Oh, you leave em out in the sun, they get all brown, start sproutin little white hairs.
No. Layers! Onions have layers. Onis have layers. Onions have layers. You get it? They both have layers.

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itcheyness
06/24/23 12:16:10 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
No. Layers! Onions have layers. Onis have layers. Onions have layers. You get it? They both have layers.
Oh, they both have layers! Oh... You know, not everybody like onions...

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blackrider76
06/24/23 12:16:24 PM
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Yeah, theyre called Japanese Goblins.

https://youtu.be/Tc8iu0XFUQc

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Wandering__Hero
06/24/23 12:20:50 PM
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SOMEBODY ONCE TOlD ME

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Robot2600
06/24/23 12:31:59 PM
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Oni means DEMON!

dont yall weeb at all?

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Tyranthraxus
06/24/23 1:01:08 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Oni means DEMON!

dont yall weeb at all?

I thought Akuma means demon

vycebrand2 posted...
Traditional elves had the long ears and were short.

Not really. Depends on who you asked and when. Tolkien's elves were based on the Germanic legends which would have been tall. Short elves were a much more recent invention and/or possibly conflated with Irish mythology "wee folk"

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Amakusa
06/24/23 1:09:19 PM
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Ricemills posted...
On the flip side, Japanese portrayal of orcs as humanoid pigs, kobolds as humanoid dogs, elves have long floppy ears also annoy me.
Dungeons and Dragons had a large influence on anime fantasy (most famously Record of Lodoss War, but if you look at the original Final Fantasy the monsters look like they all came out of the Monster Manual). Wizardry also had a huge influence on RPGs as a whole.

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Stagmar
06/24/23 1:20:34 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Ogre-chan
I wanted to make that joke. Oh well.

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sephiroth068
06/25/23 6:02:59 PM
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itcheyness posted...
Oh, they both have layers! Oh... You know, not everybody like onions...
CAKES! Everybody likes cakes! Cakes have layers.

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Smiffwilm
06/25/23 6:16:57 PM
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sephiroth068 posted...
CAKES! Everybody likes cakes! Cakes have layers.
I don't care what everyone likes! Onis are not like cakes.

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PaintGimmick
06/25/23 6:18:21 PM
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Ogre and the Blind Forest

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FortuneCookie
06/25/23 6:20:14 PM
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Anyone remember that movie where Godzilla fought an ogre?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/4/AAdlC_AAEmhw.jpg

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itcheyness
06/25/23 8:53:04 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
I don't care what everyone likes! Onis are not like cakes.
You know what ELSE everybody likes? Parfaits! Have you ever met a person, you say, "Let's get some parfait," they say, "Hell no, I don't like no parfait."? Parfaits are delicious!

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Smiffwilm
06/25/23 9:02:33 PM
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itcheyness posted...
You know what ELSE everybody likes? Parfaits! Have you ever met a person, you say, "Let's get some parfait," they say, "Hell no, I don't like no parfait."? Parfaits are delicious!

NO! You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden! Onis are like onions! End of story! Bye-bye! See ya later.

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Alteres
06/25/23 9:09:25 PM
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Doe posted...
It's as bad as calling a tanuki a raccoon
but what is trash panda in Japanese?

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itcheyness
06/25/23 9:24:11 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
NO! You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden! Onis are like onions! End of story! Bye-bye! See ya later.
Parfait's may be the most delicious thing on the whole damn planet!

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Robot2600
06/25/23 9:26:39 PM
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Akuma also means demon.

It's like how we have "devil" and "demon" in English.

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Poorly
06/25/23 9:50:04 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Akuma also means demon.

It's like how we have "devil" and "demon" in English.
Mazoku means demon

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