Board 8 > Gamefaq Mafia Mafia Topic 2 Kirby or Death?

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Isquen
06/23/23 8:10:45 AM
#151:


No promises. I'm tired and have to be at work in a few hours, but at least I have more than one day off this weekend.

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Obellisk
06/23/23 8:11:45 AM
#152:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I unfortunately am not actually cop.


well farts to that.

now it's just weird that Death is left alone and corrik is claiming things only he can know

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:11:53 AM
#153:


htaeD posted...
Corrik there are handful of holes in that logic
Roleblocker could have sent in the kill at the same time. (some hosts allow doubling up of actions), The Godfather could have a power of their own, or the last scum could be a power instead of a godather anyway.

Plusyou could be lying about being roleblocked period.
Almost zero hosts allow doubling of actions. You know that. The only game I EVER remember having that was the one that used items instead of roles. It's never allowed unless last scum usually.

Godfather is the most common role for mafia in existence.

So we purposely didn't use the roleblocker so I could claim I was roleblocked when a doctor and cop are claimed and down 1 scum already? Okay.

You are making a lot of hairbrained schemes here to not admit the easiest answer. I'm town. There is absolutely one way I wouldn't be confirmed town, but still its likely I am still town at that point too and it's a town roleblocker.

Thus, if a busdriver he confirms 3 people by simply claiming.

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Isquen
06/23/23 8:12:16 AM
#154:


Then again I also doubt the doctor or bus drivering because apparently no one has any information claimed other than Corrik claiming a roleblock.

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:13:25 AM
#155:


Isquen posted...
I doubt Godfather due to Kirby's cop claim and mathematically for the size of the game.
Godfather is absolutely in the game. Name one game ever without it.

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:14:14 AM
#156:


Corrik7 posted...
Roleblocker, nightkill, prostitute.
Assuming no extra qualities to the kill, it could have been done by the same person as the blocker if the blocker is scum. Then you would be third unknown.

If rber is town, that would be another scenario separate from your suggestion where you could be scum.

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:15:34 AM
#157:


PeaceFrog posted...
Assuming no extra qualities to the kill, it could have been done by the same person as the blocker if the blocker is scum. Then you would be third unknown.

If rber is town, that would be another scenario separate from your suggestion where you could be scum.
Wow. This is literally as bad as people not knowing what mylo was last game. I'm probably just gonna peace out the rest of the day if you people don't know 101 mafia mechanics. Like wow.

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Isquen
06/23/23 8:16:40 AM
#158:


Corrik7 posted...
Godfather is absolutely in the game. Name one game ever without it.

Basically any game without a cop, which this one probably is.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:17:32 AM
#159:


Corrik7 posted...

Almost zero hosts allow doubling of actions. You know that. The only game I EVER remember having that was the one that used items instead of roles. It's never allowed unless last scum usually.


Tekken Mafia did it too. But I suppose that was a smaller scumteam.

Godfather is the most common role for mafia in existence.


No Roleblocker is
Godfather can get left out often enough.

So we purposely didn't use the roleblocker so I could claim I was roleblocked when a doctor and cop are claimed and down 1 scum already? Okay.

Dont think its likely, but its possible. Again I am not saying you are scum here so much as saying you arent townconfirmed to me. I am also just confused as to why you were roleblocked.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:19:48 AM
#160:


Also Godfathers CAN have a power that moves as well

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:21:50 AM
#161:


Corrik7 posted...
Wow. This is literally as bad as people not knowing what mylo was last game. I'm probably just gonna peace out the rest of the day if you people don't know 101 mafia mechanics. Like wow.
Both times I've been scum, we were able to have the person with the kill also do a different thing.

I'll concede that it's very likely you're town. Just not 100% confirmed.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:21:52 AM
#162:


Also

Corrik7 posted...

Godfather is absolutely in the game. Name one game ever without it.


2021 Mafia
YOU WERE SCUM IN THAT ONE

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IfGodCouldDie
06/23/23 8:23:01 AM
#163:


Isquen posted...
##unvote
##vote: Death

Sure I'll buy it.
Not liking this vote considering you just had the person you're following as your number 1 read.

##Vote: Isquen

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:23:44 AM
#164:


Isquen posted...
Basically any game without a cop, which this one probably is.
Still in it. It's a renamed goon then.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/23/23 8:25:16 AM
#165:


htaeD posted...
I think at this point a doctor would have counterclaimed me to bury me
But there wont be a counterclaim since there is no doctor besides me.
And anyone still saying they should resolve me is just being lazy or too unwilling to accept that they were wrong about Kirby.

Also if redirection did happen, the list of people who that could be is growing smaller and smaller based on how many people are saying "I want death to die" without actually being brave enough to say it.

Also also. IGCD didnt claim cop. He said he was using outside-game info to condemn Kirby. (and I am curious if I can now say what that was)
Whether thats the truth or not cannot be ascertained yet and it is odd that they didnt roleblock or shoot him regardless. But the night as a whole has been odd clearly.

Corrik, why didnt you wait for me to claim my action btw?
I mean corrik could be lying and they did roleblock me but we'll never know.

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:25:49 AM
#166:


One thing that board 8 usually forgets that the godfather has a power of is that the godfather is allowed to dictate the actions of the scum team when alive. Most scumteams collab, but if they didn't the godfather decides all scum actions. It's why they are practically in every last mafia game.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:25:49 AM
#167:


Then again maybe scum just thought Corrik was the cop

Why I dont know tho.. since he waited so long to vote Kirby.

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Isquen
06/23/23 8:25:51 AM
#168:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Not liking this vote considering you just had the person you're following as your number 1 read.




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wallmasterz
06/23/23 8:26:11 AM
#169:


I am on board with a mass claim. Im town restless spirit. Not sure if this has been used in games here before, but I am effectively vanilla (only have my voice and my vote). If I die, I can no longer vote, but instead of going to dtc I dont lose my voice - I remain here, can continue posting and giving my two cents. Not sure its a very helpful role for town judging by how Im doing so far this game >_>

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Obellisk
06/23/23 8:26:13 AM
#170:


Corrik7 posted...
I'm probably just gonna peace out the rest of the day if you people don't know 101 mafia mechanics. Like wow.


but this is assuming that Sultan is down with mafia mechanics 101.

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:26:33 AM
#171:


Obellisk posted...
but this is assuming that Sultan is down with mafia mechanics 101.
Thats a good point to be fair. Lol

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:27:57 AM
#172:


Corrik7 posted...
One thing that board 8 usually forgets that the godfather has a power of is that the godfather is allowed to dictate the actions of the scum team when alive. Most scumteams collab, but if they didn't the godfather decides all scum actions. It's why they are practically in every last mafia game.


I have never seen godfathers implemented that way in recent years

I think we discarded that mechanic in favor of just letting whoever is present at the right send in the actions.

Godfathers dont want to move that much is true, but thats just more reason for hosts to allow doubling up of actions.

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Isquen
06/23/23 8:28:03 AM
#173:


wallmasterz posted...
I am on board with a mass claim.

A.) Who asked
B.) When
C.) Tree Stump, renamed? Really?


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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:31:13 AM
#174:


htaeD posted...
I have never seen godfathers implemented that way in recent years

I think we discarded that mechanic in favor of just letting whoever is present at the right send in the actions.

Godfathers dont want to move that much is true, but thats just more reason for hosts to allow doubling up of actions.
That's a reason why hosts don't allow doubling up actions. You can't get an unfair protection of your godfather by having others act twice so he doesn't have to act and be at risk.

You are like backwards.

And yes, board 8 usually doesn't have to have the godfather take control, but I have at least in one game invoked godfather powers of actions as scum. Though I believe I said the disagreement ultimately is decided by our godfather not that I took control of it.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:34:04 AM
#175:


Point is. Doubling up is at the disgression of the host and not universally banned.

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Obellisk
06/23/23 8:35:14 AM
#176:


Corrik7 posted...
Thats a good point to be fair. Lol


its posts like these that remind me corrik is still a reasonable human.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:35:26 AM
#177:


(also good lord discord search is trash, it autocorrects any use of doubl to double)

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wallmasterz
06/23/23 8:38:45 AM
#178:


Isquen posted...
A.) Who asked
B.) When
C.) Tree Stump, renamed? Really?

A) IGCD (also suggested by Ulti)
B) June 23, 2023, 8:04:28 AM ET
C) Take it up with Sultan, I guess

Even if we dont get a full mass claim Im fine with sharing my role.

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Obellisk
06/23/23 8:38:51 AM
#179:


I am anti mass claim at the moment. mind you I don't think many are left

Devils advocating this shit. Corriks roleblocked claim can easily be seen as scum reaching for power claims.

they killed a vanilla, lost their prosty Day 1 and didn't roleblock the doc claim?

I just think anything town might have is best left alone for a night?

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:40:06 AM
#180:


htaeD posted...
I have never seen godfathers implemented that way in recent years

I think we discarded that mechanic in favor of just letting whoever is present at the right send in the actions.

Godfathers dont want to move that much is true, but thats just more reason for hosts to allow doubling up of actions.
I'm pretty sure it was enabled when we were scum. Weren't you our gf?

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:40:53 AM
#181:


Obellisk posted...
I am anti mass claim at the moment. mind you I don't think many are left

Devils advocating this shit. Corriks roleblocked claim can easily be seen as scum reaching for power claims.

they killed a vanilla, lost their prosty Day 1 and didn't roleblock the doc claim?

I just think anything town might have is best left alone for a night?
Maybe I am cop who put a show on with my death vote before hammering Kirby.

I mean, that's much more likely than the scum team purposely didn't roleblock so I could claim it.

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wallmasterz
06/23/23 8:41:08 AM
#182:


Can someone not named sbell tell me how sbell normally reacts when under pressure as town and scum?

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IfGodCouldDie
06/23/23 8:41:24 AM
#183:


Obellisk posted...
I am anti mass claim at the moment. mind you I don't think many are left

Devils advocating this shit. Corriks roleblocked claim can easily be seen as scum reaching for power claims.

they killed a vanilla, lost their prosty Day 1 and didn't roleblock the doc claim?

I just think anything town might have is best left alone for a night?
Here's my thing with Corrik, if he is scum and truly believes I am cop, I am more than likely the one shot last night. So we can put Corrik in the town pile for now.

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:42:21 AM
#184:


Corrik7 posted...
Maybe I am cop who put a show on with my death vote before hammering Kirby.

I mean, that's much more likely than the scum team purposely didn't roleblock so I could claim it.
Devils advocate, you blocked a player who is a mirror of sorts

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:43:12 AM
#185:


PeaceFrog posted...

I'm pretty sure it was enabled when we were scum. Weren't you our gf?


I dont recall
I just happened to be the one around for each final hour

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:43:14 AM
#186:


Can I invoke a trust me lynch?

Lynch ulti.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/23/23 8:44:03 AM
#187:


Corrik7 posted...
Can I invoke a trust me lynch?

Lynch ulti.
I won't be a part of that. Ulti can continue his pro town play for now.

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:44:42 AM
#188:


PeaceFrog posted...
Devils advocate, you blocked a player who is a mirror of sorts
Why would I assume that deflected and I wasn't roleblocked by a town roleblocker or jailkeeper and both my roleblock and the town one went off? I seem pretty confident I was the only person roleblocked last night, which if I was a scum roleblocker I would be acting because I wouldn't be confident then.

Do you feel I am acting?

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:46:14 AM
#189:


No, i don't. I'm just listing out remote possibilities to explain the events so that you can understand why i don't trust you 100%, but still think you are likely town.

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htaeD
06/23/23 8:47:06 AM
#190:


Corrik if you were roleblocked you will need more than a 'trust me' to convince anyone.

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Corrik7
06/23/23 8:48:11 AM
#192:


htaeD posted...
Corrik if you were roleblocked you will need more than a 'trust me' to convince anyone.
I am asking you guys to trust me who to lynch today instead of just waiting til after the game to say we shoulda listened.

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:48:27 AM
#193:


Still no red other than one snide remark iirc?

He's my top lynch today. At this point in time I'd also humor sbell, isquen, or Lea.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/23/23 8:50:48 AM
#196:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You guys really never learn, do you?
I've learned. The fact that both you and Corrik believed i was cop and i am not dead tells me everything I need to know about your alignments.

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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 8:59:00 AM
#198:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah hes done nothing to convince me to leave him alive. Neither has Abacus.

Red/Abacus/Lea?
I'm fairly confident it's not abacus.


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PeaceFrog
06/23/23 9:01:07 AM
#199:


PeaceFrog posted...
If abacus is scum, he deliberately chose to make it harder for Kirby - he could have made it 5/4 instead of 6/3. I think abacus is very likely town, UNLESS Death is also scum. I liked his posts at eod so I'm ok with the A.

Final d1 votals:
(7) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD, Abacus, Corrik
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz, (Corrik)
5/4 with 7 to lynch is a much nicer position to put your scum mate than 6/3. Abacus' vote was a pretty important moment.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/23/23 9:14:07 AM
#200:


Corrik, if you were scum I'd be dead, correct?

Why would Ulti keep me alive or not roleblock me if he was scum, you both came into today convinced I was cop.

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