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superbot400 06/17/23 3:15:30 AM #1: |
For the folks who said that Reddit didnt care about the protest or Reddit is ignoring it .explain this. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/16/23763538/reddit-blackout-api-protest-mod-replacement-threat --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jonny2284 06/17/23 3:29:54 AM #2: |
Totally expected outcome tbh but still not a great look. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWizardOfOrz 06/17/23 3:33:49 AM #3: |
We have not threatened anyone, Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt said in a statement to The Verge. Thats not how we operate. Pressuring people is not our goal. Were communicating expectations and how things work. Redditors want to reddit and mods want to mod. We want mods who want to mod to be able to do so. That's literally threatening them, that's what that means. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xerun 06/17/23 3:37:50 AM #4: |
Its a bold call to do this sort of thing when your entire business model depends on your only product. And your only product is the users youre shitting on. All it would take is for another company (Ive heard Lemmy suggested) to offer a better service and the entire business model crumbles. that being said Ive been waiting years for that to happen to YouTube and it hasnt happened --- Currently Playing: Tears of the Kingdom & Megaman Battle Network Legacy Collection Volume 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 06/17/23 3:38:45 AM #5: |
TheWizardOfOrz posted... We have not threatened anyone, Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt said in a statement to The Verge. Thats not how we operate. Pressuring people is not our goal. Were communicating expectations and how things work. Redditors want to reddit and mods want to mod. We want mods who want to mod to be able to do so. "Sure would be a shame if all this nice stuff broke. Should pay that protection money..." --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWizardOfOrz 06/17/23 3:40:44 AM #6: |
Xerun posted... Its a bold call to do this sort of thing when your entire business model depends on your only product. And your only product is the users youre shitting on.Isn't YouTube constantly operated at a loss for some reason? Also people upload tons of pirated video on there so it will always have users. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 06/17/23 3:41:54 AM #7: |
I don't know if it's related, but I tried going to a GoT subreddit just now for a different topic, which said it was private, but also that it had been closed indefinitely. To be honest I'm not really sure what's going on with Reddit and what the controversy is. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 06/17/23 3:47:18 AM #8: |
Xerun posted... Its a bold call to do this sort of thing when your entire business model depends on your only product. And your only product is the users youre shitting on.Nah, they're actually acting on behalf of the users who want to access these subreddits which moderators have closed down. The product isn't moderators, it's the people who upload, read, upvote, comment, etc. Moderators are just the janitors and they're the ones being "screwed" (i.e. being expected to hold up their end of the moderator agreement--actively moderating and maintaining the subreddits they're assigned to) --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 06/17/23 4:11:32 AM #9: |
Gobstoppers12 posted... Nah, they're actually acting on behalf of the users who want to access these subreddits which moderators have closed down. The product isn't moderators, it's the people who upload, read, upvote, comment, etc. Arent the forthcoming changes also going to have a negative impact on users? I thought that was how this all started. Reddit was going to break (superior) third party apps to force the use of their shitty official one, and users didnt like that. If it also makes things harder for the mods that is something Im only hearing about after the fact. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 06/17/23 4:15:15 AM #10: |
Don't bother engaging with Gobstoppers, he's such a corporate bootlicker that you can smell the shoe polish on his breath from across a room. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 06/17/23 4:23:57 AM #11: |
Dark_Arbron posted... Arent the forthcoming changes also going to have a negative impact on usersMaybe like 3% of users. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Notti 06/19/23 7:34:14 AM #12: |
Dark_Arbron posted... Arent the forthcoming changes also going to have a negative impact on users? I thought that was how this all started. Reddit was going to break (superior) third party apps to force the use of their shitty official one, and users didnt like that. If it also makes things harder for the mods that is something Im only hearing about after the fact. Yes, the api change breaks tons of things, for users and mods. Both users and mods are what makes for good subreddit content. --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 06/19/23 7:37:51 AM #13: |
The King of Reddit is a petulant man-child. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 06/19/23 7:41:32 AM #14: |
If the mods had any backbone they'd force Reddit's hand in this and make it huge but they don't. Spez and Reddit Admin know that the quickest way to get a reddit moderator in line is to threaten their power. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKz2U4fvA4U ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vegy 06/19/23 7:43:01 AM #15: |
Most redditors don't care about whatever dis protest was about lol --- http://i.imgur.com/gt58G1y.gif http://i.imgur.com/Kdvuckz.png http://i.imgur.com/SYqReLE.gif https://i.imgur.com/MbgGQWx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TonyKojima 06/19/23 7:46:20 AM #16: |
Reddit is full of virtue signaling. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 7:47:15 AM #17: |
the only chance the mods had to do anything was to simply announce they would stop moderating until the changes are reverted. let the boards be flooded with spam, porn, illegal shit etc. that would put reddit into panic/backpedal mode immediately. instead they performed the weakest protest known to man, and literally nothing happened as a result ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurai_Man 06/19/23 8:17:57 AM #18: |
None of my reddit experiences have changed since this 'blackout' None of my subs virtue signal or give a fuck about the API change and they're MASSIVE subs, 200k+ members. --- It's your friendly neighborhood Samurai Man. PS5/Series X/Switch/iPhone/Android/PC/Mac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 06/19/23 8:30:56 AM #19: |
Wouldnt it be a lot easier for mod authors to just rewrite stuff for the new API? Cant expect Reddit to not change its API ever --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 8:33:52 AM #20: |
thronedfire2 posted... Wouldnt it be a lot easier for mod authors to just rewrite stuff for the new API? Cant expect Reddit to not change its API everthere is no new API. its the same API but it costs 1000x as much ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Notti 06/19/23 8:34:56 AM #21: |
thronedfire2 posted... Wouldnt it be a lot easier for mod authors to just rewrite stuff for the new API? Cant expect Reddit to not change its API ever The api change is not code. It is an obscene paywall that other sites charge maybe a couple hundred for. Reddit is charging over 10,000. The goal is to kill the competition, and make reddit only 1 ad forced and shitty functionality app. Reddit admin claim his inspiration was Elon Musk. --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkDaLunatic 06/19/23 8:36:06 AM #22: |
thronedfire2 posted... Wouldnt it be a lot easier for mod authors to just rewrite stuff for the new API? Cant expect Reddit to not change its API everreddit is slapping a huge fuck-off price on api access it sounds like a small number when you first read it ($0.24 per 1000 data pulls), but one popular app did the math and it comes up to like $20,000,000/year --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 06/19/23 8:36:41 AM #23: |
I have never used a reddit app at all, let alone a third party one Whats so great about these apps? --- Why should we wait for some better time? There may not even be a tomorrow. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 06/19/23 8:36:43 AM #24: |
Big subreddits banding together to strike was a good idea, but announcing "Oh it's only for 2 days tho" was so stupid >_> --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 8:37:51 AM #26: |
Damn_Underscore posted... Whats so great about these apps?they are just flat out better than the offiical website and official app in terms of usability. they aren't cluttered to shit and dont have ads ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 06/19/23 8:39:08 AM #27: |
Damn_Underscore posted... I have never used a reddit app at all, let alone a third party oneThey literally just work better. This entire hullabaloo would have blown over in a few days if the reddit app just wasn't relatively terrible. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 06/19/23 8:39:24 AM #28: |
If anything, I've learned that I don't really need Reddit. It's been a week since I even looked at it. Them forcing subs back open is maximum level of shitty. --- "No. I'm a man so theyll get me a full size McDouble." - DuncanWii https://i.imgur.com/cSxy3Od.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 8:40:08 AM #29: |
pegusus123456 posted... This entire hullabaloo would have blown over in a few days if the reddit app just wasn't relatively terrible.its still gonna blow over in a few days anyway. the apps will close down, and people will move on. sucks but what can you do ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueTigerLion 06/19/23 8:41:45 AM #31: |
I thought people saw this coming as soon as the subs closed. The Reddit mods dont want to risk giving up being a mod especially on a default sub. You have a lot of power and if they knew they could lose their mod status and just be a regular poster that would end the blackout stuff overnight. A lot of people would have no issue being a mod. --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 06/19/23 8:41:52 AM #32: |
Damn_Underscore posted... I have never used a reddit app at all, let alone a third party one Ad free, accessibility features, not sending your data out to sell constantly (a reddit poster mentioned their pihole logs becoming multiple gigabytes large after using the official reddit app) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 8:44:57 AM #34: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] im sure that a "deletion" would be a flag in a database that the reddit owner can just revert. they wouldnt even need to restore a deleted subreddit from backup ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thompson 06/19/23 8:48:23 AM #35: |
Say what you want about the mods being dumb and their protest being ineffective, Reddit pricing out their competition so that they don't have to care that their own app is lousy is literally saturday cartoon evil corporation villany. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 06/19/23 10:01:09 AM #36: |
Thompson posted... Say what you want about the mods being dumb and their protest being ineffective, Reddit pricing out their competition so that they don't have to care that their own app is lousy is literally saturday cartoon evil corporation villany. They're planning an IPO and currently are not at all profitable, so it's a way to raise their value ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jasten 06/19/23 10:03:53 AM #37: |
Love how a few subs have exposed the mods both NBA and Anime had the mods commenting as normal during the blackout. And people want us to feel sorry fir these dipshits? --- Dragon Age: Inquisition is still the greatest game of all time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 06/19/23 10:07:46 AM #38: |
Kloe_Rinz posted... its still gonna blow over in a few days anyway. the apps will close down, and people will move on. sucks but what can you doLeave Reddit. --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 06/19/23 10:12:11 AM #39: |
Threaten? It already happened yesterday. The mod team mutinied against the top mod on a very popular sub, and the top mod wasn't even notified till after he was kicked and the other mods reopened. Thompson posted... Say what you want about the mods being dumb and their protest being ineffective, Reddit pricing out their competition so that they don't have to care that their own app is lousy is literally saturday cartoon evil corporation villany.Reddit doesn't make money. Yet they pay millions in infrastructure cost in their API access, which became a lot worst in the past year because of companies using it to train AI LLM. The 3rd party apps are making money off Reddit's charity, so they've decided they gave enough charity. jasten posted... Love how a few subs have exposed the mods both NBA and Anime had the mods commenting as normal during the blackout.The NBA one is hilarious. The entire thread on that is thousands of people shitting on the mods. --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lucariopikmin 06/19/23 10:13:28 AM #40: |
jasten posted... Love how a few subs have exposed the mods both NBA and Anime had the mods commenting as normal during the blackout.There's a mod on r/unexpected who calls it forced labor. Reddit is definitely fucking up but there's way too many mods who care more about having mod powers and keeping that than the community. --- 3DS FC: 2380-2873-6073 Sun IGN: Evelyn Sword IGN: Fiora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 06/19/23 10:13:47 AM #41: |
HornyLevel posted... The 3rd party apps are making money off Reddit's charity, so they've decided they gave enough charity.It's impolite of you to slurp so loudly. Please be considerate. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 06/19/23 10:14:49 AM #42: |
UnholyMudcrab posted... It's impolite of you to slurp so loudly. Please be considerate.So explain where the money will come from? It's either the users or 3rd parties. The Apollo guy makes $250k a year. --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greenjeans 06/19/23 10:16:05 AM #43: |
HornyLevel posted... So explain where the money will come from? It's either the users or 3rd parties. The Apollo guy makes $250k a year.If that waa legit their goal they wouldn't have made the price so insane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 10:17:50 AM #44: |
HornyLevel posted... The 3rd party apps are making money off Reddit's charity, so they've decided they gave enough charity.thats not at all what that is lmao Cost per 50 million API requests: AWS: $175 (cheaper above 333 mil, more discounts for billions) Imgur: $166 Reddit: $12,000 It's not about charity at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 06/19/23 10:18:35 AM #45: |
greenjeans posted... If that waa legit their goal they wouldn't have made the price so insaneThe goal is to get rid of competition because they propped them up for a whole decade. 3rd party apps are not in an official business relationship with them. And 3rd party apps circumvent their ads and serve their own and make money of subscriptions. Tell me why 3rd party companies leeching off you is supposed to be ok. --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greenjeans 06/19/23 10:19:51 AM #46: |
HornyLevel posted... The goal is to get rid of competition because they propped them up for a whole decade. 3rd party apps are not in an official business relationship with them. And 3rd party apps circumvent their ads and serve their own and make money of subscriptions.They could charge an appropriate amount of money ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 06/19/23 10:22:31 AM #47: |
greenjeans posted... They could charge an appropriate amount of moneyThey don't want monetized competition. They are not charging everyone and there will be some apps that will be coming out soon that won't be charged. Those making money and pushing out millions of requests will be charged, to the point it's impossible to pay, because it's not some other company's responsibility to prop up and help their own competition. --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 10:23:27 AM #48: |
HornyLevel posted... They don't want monetized competition. They are not charging everyone and there will be some apps that will be coming out soon that won't be charged. Kloe_Rinz posted... AWS: $175 (cheaper above 333 mil, more discounts for billions) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 06/19/23 10:24:03 AM #49: |
Kloe not paying attention as usual. --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 06/19/23 10:24:39 AM #50: |
not gonna accept that from some reddit CEO slurper try again ... Copied to Clipboard!
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