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Bass_X0
05/17/23 8:30:29 AM
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I served 18 years straight. I'd say somewhere around the 7 or 8 year mark my view of the situation changed. It was no longer prison, it was just my life. Nothing ever changed. Every day was the same. You get in a never changing routine and before you know it 5 years go by. Then 10, then 15. The real world becomes a fantasy. Something you see on TV, or pictures in magazine, but it's no longer real. One day you look in the mirror and your hair is receding, and it's turning gray, in your mind your socially stunted and in a lot of ways child like, but you're old. I went in at 18 and came out a 37 year old man who didn't know how to do anything. I'd never used a cell phone or computer. I'd never driven a car or filed my taxes. The world was too big, too loud, too fast. My second day out my sister took me to Walmart and I had a panic attack and had to go outside and sit in the car by myself. I could make a tattoo gun out of an electric razor, boil water with an extension cord, and sits for months on end by myself in a room with a sink, concrete bunk and metal toilet without breaking a sweat. But I couldn't hold a job, operate any electronics without help, or go to Walmart without freaking the fuck out. I didn't know how to cook, or how to pay a bill. I sat home by myself for months, afraid to go anywhere or talk to people. A big part of me wanted to be back in prison where things made sense, where I thrived.
I've been out for over 5 years now, and while I've learned to do a lot of things, it's still not easy. I dream alot of being in prison. Where's it's easy. No responsibility. And believe it or not, less stress and anxiety. I've been in institutions my whole life, since I was a little kid. Foster homes, group homes, treatment centers, juvenile detentions. It's what I know. It's where I'm comfortable. I don't know if that will ever change.
I hope this answers your question.

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assboobsgames
05/17/23 8:34:24 AM
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The fuck is this from? Why no link, just a straight up copy and paste with zero context.


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VeggetaX
05/17/23 8:35:09 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
The fuck is this from? Why no link, just a straight up copy and paste with zero context.
Calm down.

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Bass_X0
05/17/23 8:35:58 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
The fuck is this from? Why no link, just a straight up copy and paste with zero context.

Quora.


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assboobsgames
05/17/23 8:36:53 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Quora.
Wow, ok thanks. Great topic. Very thought provoking.

Now do one from the perspective of his victim.

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Turbam
05/17/23 8:38:15 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
Wow, ok thanks. Great topic. Very thought provoking.

Now do one from the perspective of his victim.

assboobsgames posted...
The fuck is this from? Why no link, just a straight up copy and paste with zero context.
Weird melty

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IceCreamOnStero
05/17/23 8:38:16 AM
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Prisons make next to no effort to release inmates better than they entered.

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assboobsgames
05/17/23 8:40:02 AM
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Turbam posted...
Weird melty
Not so weird. It's a zero context topic. A straight up copy and paste with no source. I expect better from topic creators. Have some standards, my dude.

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doshindude
05/17/23 8:51:32 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
Not so weird. It's a zero context topic. A straight up copy and paste with no source. I expect better from topic creators. Have some standards, my dude.

It is not your responsibility to police topic content. Don't be a mini-mod.

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NecroFoul99
05/17/23 8:53:01 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
Not so weird. It's a zero context topic. A straight up copy and paste with no source. I expect better from topic creators. Have some standards, my dude.
Topic isnt about judging someone.

TC asked, How hard is it really to do time in prison?

What context about this persons history do you need in order to discuss that?

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apocalyptic_4
05/17/23 8:57:11 AM
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Depends on the prison and length of time this can vary drastically. Quora is a great app though it has discussions and awnsers for almost anything from people all over the world. If gfaqs closed down I'd browse that site instead.

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assboobsgames
05/17/23 9:10:44 AM
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NecroFoul99 posted...
TC asked, How hard is it really to do time in prison?
I like how you just accept there's no context and this seems normal to you.

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NeonTentacles
05/17/23 9:16:47 AM
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Is prison rape really common or is it overblown in media? Genuinely curious >_>

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CARRRNE_ASADA
05/17/23 9:20:53 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
I like how you just accept there's no context and this seems normal to you.

Like why do you care so much? Theres no need for context. Just the perspective from someone who entered the system young and was socially stunted by living their whole adult life inside.


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assboobsgames
05/17/23 9:31:29 AM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Like why do you care so much? Theres no need for context. Just the perspective from someone who entered the system young and was socially stunted by living their whole adult life inside.
Because context is everything. You're not curious where tc got this from, or if they typed it up themselves? Was it from an article, from a movie, from a documentary? Was it from a real person, from an ai or, maybe a fictional character?

How can you accept a block of text and not be curious about it and just accept it with zero context?

You seem like someone who scrolls past a headline and then thinks you have the whole story.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Theres no need for context.
You seme to have no idea how much this says about you and how much of a red flag it is.

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HANGtheDJ_86
05/17/23 9:58:03 AM
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And I thought I overreacted about those furry cardboard boxes this morning

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ArchNemo
05/17/23 10:02:40 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
Because context is everything. You're not curious where tc got this from, or if they typed it up themselves? Was it from an article, from a movie, from a documentary? Was it from a real person, from an ai or, maybe a fictional character?

How can you accept a block of text and not be curious about it and just accept it with zero context?

You seem like someone who scrolls past a headline and then thinks you have the whole story.

You seme to have no idea how much this says about you and how much of a red flag it is.


Lol who is this guy?

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Starks
05/17/23 10:23:24 AM
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ArchNemo posted...
Lol who is this guy?
Why does it matter if CE doesn't care about proper sourcing?

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assboobsgames
05/17/23 10:27:29 AM
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Zing!

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A_Good_Boy
05/17/23 10:32:54 AM
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What a weird melty.

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Solar_Crimson
05/17/23 10:35:34 AM
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Turbam posted...
Weird melty
Dude seems to always be on edge about something.

IceCreamOnStero posted...
Prisons make next to no effort to release inmates better than they entered.
Yep. The whole point is for them to reoffend and get thrown back in prison, so that the prison-owners net a profit.

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WTGHookshot
05/17/23 10:47:08 AM
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assboobsgames posted...

Because context is everything. You're not curious where tc got this from, or if they typed it up themselves? Was it from an article, from a movie, from a documentary? Was it from a real person, from an ai or, maybe a fictional character?

How can you accept a block of text and not be curious about it and just accept it with zero context?

You seem like someone who scrolls past a headline and then thinks you have the whole story.

You seme to have no idea how much this says about you and how much of a red flag it is.

Absolutely agree.

Context is key. Saying "context doesn't matter" says a lot about that poster.

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SpoiltTrouser
05/17/23 10:48:39 AM
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assboobsgames posted...
Because context is everything. You're not curious where tc got this from, or if they typed it up themselves? Was it from an article, from a movie, from a documentary? Was it from a real person, from an ai or, maybe a fictional character?

How can you accept a block of text and not be curious about it and just accept it with zero context?

You seem like someone who scrolls past a headline and then thinks you have the whole story.

You seme to have no idea how much this says about you and how much of a red flag it is.
what a freakish post, it's obviously some random guy's perspective. why does context matter here.

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WTGHookshot
05/17/23 10:51:46 AM
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Starks posted...

Why does it matter if CE doesn't care about proper sourcing?

Because it could be presenting something completely false or just completely made up by the TC. Without a source, it's unclear how accurate the information is, whether there is bias, etc.

To use a meme from the system boards, "my uncle works for Nintendo and he told me..." obviously doesn't hold anywhere near as much value as a direct quote from, say, an IGN interview with someone from Nintendo.

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WTGHookshot
05/17/23 10:52:38 AM
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SpoiltTrouser posted...

what a freakish post, it's obviously some random guy's perspective. why does context matter here.

Was that "random guy" even actually in prison?

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Kloe_Rinz
05/17/23 10:54:26 AM
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Its not hard to imagine that someone who went to prison at 18 and was released at 37 would have few life skills and be more comfortable back in prison. It doesnt matter if TCs specific example is from a real person or not
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Solid_Sonic
05/17/23 10:56:29 AM
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From what I've studied it would be a hell of a lot easier if it didn't involve anyone else. The thing that makes hard time hard seems to be a need to clique up if you don't want to be a target of things like jailhouse robbery. And once you're in you're expected to put in work so any attempt at keeping one's nose clean and doing smooth time is undermined simply for not wanting to be harassed and victimized.

The real problem seems to be the prison staff do so little to help those who have no interest in prison politics and just want a clean run through their sentence. Boxing everyone together regardless of their motives towards their incarceration just causes issues (some cons just want to live the life, they're incorrigibleor "institutionalized" in prison parlanceand when too many of them are living the life in one place it suffocates those who don't want to become that).

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Dorfmann_
05/17/23 10:56:35 AM
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WTGHookshot
05/17/23 11:11:10 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Its not hard to imagine that someone who went to prison at 18 and was released at 37 would have few life skills and be more comfortable back in prison. It doesnt matter if TCs specific example is from a real person or not

It's also not hard to imagine that the moon is made of cheese either. After all, it's just imagination.

That doesn't mean that it is indeed made of cheese.

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R1masher
05/17/23 11:14:22 AM
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WTGHookshot posted...
It's also not hard to imagine that the moon is made of cheese either. After all, it's just imagination.

That doesn't mean that it is indeed made of cheese.

lol


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haloiscoolisbak
05/17/23 11:24:45 AM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
From what I've studied it would be a hell of a lot easier if it didn't involve anyone else. The thing that makes hard time hard seems to be a need to clique up if you don't want to be a target of things like jailhouse robbery. And once you're in you're expected to put in work so any attempt at keeping one's nose clean and doing smooth time is undermined simply for not wanting to be harassed and victimized.

The real problem seems to be the prison staff do so little to help those who have no interest in prison politics and just want a clean run through their sentence. Boxing everyone together regardless of their motives towards their incarceration just causes issues (some cons just want to live the life, they're incorrigibleor "institutionalized" in prison parlanceand when too many of them are living the life in one place it suffocates those who don't want to become that). Some prisons do actually commit to rehabilitation but the opportunities are not afforded to everyone and if you can't participate then it's like you're on your own and that just leads back to having to fall back to whatever belonging you can find to survive.

Yeah, I've always thought the hardest part would be not getting on the wrong side of some murderous inmate with nothing to lose by looking at him for too long or something small. You know those crazy ranting/intense people in public you come across sometimes, looking for any reason to fight someone, and trying your hardest not to get their attention by avoiding eye contact and hoping they just ignore you. A whole community of that would suck so much

The mundane lifestyle and small cell, it'd be tough but I think I could eventually learn to tolerate it

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MabinogiFan
05/17/23 11:35:34 AM
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I just wanna know what crime would land you 18 years in jail at age 18.
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greenjeans
05/17/23 11:42:27 AM
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Turbam posted...
Weird melty

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Solid_Sonic
05/17/23 11:43:26 AM
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MabinogiFan posted...
I just wanna know what crime would land you 18 years in jail at age 18.

Plenty. Robbery, assault, various weapons crimeshave your pick.

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NeonTentacles
05/17/23 11:51:48 AM
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So there is tons of prison rape?

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Solid_Sonic
05/17/23 12:01:52 PM
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Who posted?

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brestugo
05/17/23 12:08:39 PM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
Plenty. Robbery, assault, various weapons crimeshave your pick.
In some states, even cannabis.

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NoxObscuras
05/17/23 12:18:40 PM
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NeonTentacles posted...
So there is tons of prison rape?
It sounds uncommon, but it's something that's underreported, so it's hard to know exactly how common it is.

"Prisoners can be understandably reluctant to report abuse. If a prisoner is being abused by another inmate, reporting the occurrence can result in negative consequences at the hands of the perpetrator or his or her allies. Guards and wardens may not take the allegations seriously, and they may not take appropriate steps to protect a reporter from retaliation. Conversely, prisoners who report abuse may be segregated from the general population and kept in solitary confinement or otherwise deleterious conditions.

Because of this, it is difficult to know how many unreported cases of sexual abuse actually occur. Peer-reviewed research studies suggest that rates of sexual victimization in prison could be as high as 41 percent or as low as less than 1 percent, although a recent meta-analysis proposes that an estimate of about 1.9 percent would be a conservative likely average."

https://lamothefirm.com/2019/06/13/sexual-assault-in-prison-is-more-common-than-you-might-think/

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Sufferedphoneix
05/17/23 12:19:01 PM
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assboobsgames posted...
Because context is everything. You're not curious where tc got this from, or if they typed it up themselves? Was it from an article, from a movie, from a documentary? Was it from a real person, from an ai or, maybe a fictional character?

How can you accept a block of text and not be curious about it and just accept it with zero context?

You seem like someone who scrolls past a headline and then thinks you have the whole story.

You seme to have no idea how much this says about you and how much of a red flag it is.

This is a story that is very similar to several I've heard. I work in a prison btw. Like the Walmart thing I heard a story of someone freaking out going to the grocery story after being locked up a long time ago because of all the choices they had. They where not used to having choices you had one brand to chose from for any food item and that was it.

This is more common in people locked up young. We call it being institutionalized. They became way more comfortable in prison than anywhere else

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Sufferedphoneix
05/17/23 12:26:55 PM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
From what I've studied it would be a hell of a lot easier if it didn't involve anyone else. The thing that makes hard time hard seems to be a need to clique up if you don't want to be a target of things like jailhouse robbery. And once you're in you're expected to put in work so any attempt at keeping one's nose clean and doing smooth time is undermined simply for not wanting to be harassed and victimized.

The real problem seems to be the prison staff do so little to help those who have no interest in prison politics and just want a clean run through their sentence. Boxing everyone together regardless of their motives towards their incarceration just causes issues (some cons just want to live the life, they're incorrigibleor "institutionalized" in prison parlanceand when too many of them are living the life in one place it suffocates those who don't want to become that). Some prisons do actually commit to rehabilitation but the opportunities are not afforded to everyone and if you can't participate then it's like you're on your own and that just leads back to having to fall back to whatever belonging you can find to survive.

We COs don't have the time. The case managers should be doing more but I can't control what they do. All I can do as a CO is make them used to having to follow rules.

We are encouraged btw to not look into what a inmate did to get in prison as it may affect how we treat them. I'm not like that though so I do sometimes look. Often time the most heinous criminals are the most well behaved. I'm talking like murder rape and child molesters.

The prison system does need some work. What we do i feel is fine for lifers but we are failing those who do have a shot at having a real life again.

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Solid_Sonic
05/17/23 12:31:09 PM
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I just think it's strange there are people who WANT to be well-behaved prisoners and they simply can't be when things like race relations enter into it and potentially make them both a target for harassment and recruitment from less ideally-minded inmates looking for new bodies.

Plus having watched new inmate orientations the COs are frequently saying "do this", "do that", "keep your head down", "don't play the hustles", etc. to instill the right way to do time but then what? Does anyone even know what goes on in the pod after those words?

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hockeybub89
05/17/23 12:35:06 PM
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A lot of people would read something like that and go "You should have thought of that before committing a crime!" but that doesn't fix the problem.

Unless someone is a ghoul advocating that all prison sentences should be replaced with summary execution, people are going to be released from prison. So we should probably try to help them better themselves while in prison, or else we're just putting a drain on society when they get out. Even if you have zero empathy for ex-cons, think about society, which I'm pretty sure almost everyone participates in.

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Sufferedphoneix
05/17/23 12:35:41 PM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
I just think it's strange there are people who WANT to be well-behaved prisoners and they simply can't be when things like race relations enter into it and potentially make them both a target for harassment and recruitment from less ideally-minded inmates looking for new bodies.

Oddly enough the gangs that would hate each other outside prison get along in prison. And that includes white supremecy gangs with minority based gangs like bloods or ms13. They feel the need to work together because it's them vs us. Not to say they never have spats with each other but usually that's not the case.

I never got that. I'm white as fuck but if I was black I couldn't imagine being buddies with a white supremacist. I could understand doing business but to hang out and be buddies? Fuck that

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NecroFoul99
05/17/23 1:23:55 PM
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assboobsgames posted...
I like how you just accept there's no context and this seems normal to you.
I want context where context is needed, sure. I dont agree with you here where youre insisting you need sources that its a true story in order to weigh in whether prison is hard or not.

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Enclave
05/17/23 1:29:01 PM
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assboobsgames posted...
Now do one from the perspective of his victim.

You do no service to society by incarcerating somebody with no rehabilitation, education or training so that when they come out all they really have as an option is more crime and more victims.

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ForsakenHermit
05/17/23 1:36:45 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
This is a story that is very similar to several I've heard. I work in a prison btw. Like the Walmart thing I heard a story of someone freaking out going to the grocery story after being locked up a long time ago because of all the choices they had. They where not used to having choices you had one brand to chose from for any food item and that was it.

This is more common in people locked up young. We call it being institutionalized. They became way more comfortable in prison than anywhere else
I've seen the same thought process with Amish people being taken to a mall. They find the variety of goods overwhelming because simplicity is what they've known their whole life.

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Sufferedphoneix
05/17/23 4:49:07 PM
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Enclave posted...
You do no service to society by incarcerating somebody with no rehabilitation, education or training so that when they come out all they really have as an option is more crime and more victims.

This is why I feel there should be a separate prison system for lesser or non violent crimes. Imagine sending someone to prison for a dui and they come out a hardened criminal

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Enclave
05/17/23 5:05:22 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
Imagine sending someone to prison for a dui and they come out a hardened criminal

No need to imagine, it happens all the time in the current prison system.

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