Current Events > Democrats need to push shit that helps ONLY democrats .

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Like most of the shit that Democrats are fighting for. Will help everyone. And they have to fight tooth and nail for it. However Republican fight for things that just help their supporters. Most time it is not even helping them, it is just hurting other people. Dems need to start doing that. Like Universal health care for people who live in these blue states. Shit for those who live in red. (and I live in Red state so I am taking a bullet on this.)

why

But then Democrats would stop helping anyone left of them

Agreed red states are the new slave states.

You are clueless

So youre saying Democrats should follow the example set by Republicans?

g980 posted...

why

I said why, because Republicans and their supports push thing that they alone want and will not help anyone else. In fact that will basically hurt groups that they don't like. So why should dems not care just about their voters .

Democrats should do the thing I know is bad when Republicans do it will never not be an incredibly stupid and bad take.

cjsdowg posted...

Like most of the shit that Democrats are fighting for. Will help everyone. And they have to fight tooth and nail for it. However Republican fight for things that just help their supporters. Most time it is not even helping them, it is just hurting other people. Dems need to start doing that. Like Universal health care for people who live in these blue states. Shit for those who live in red. (and I live in Red state so I am taking a bullet on this.)

Then it's not universal healthcare and red states having universal healthcare would make them change their mind about universal healthcare

No. Just no

Tenlaar posted...

Democrats should do the thing I know is bad when Republicans do it will never not be an incredibly stupid and bad take.

There is nothing stupid about fighting fire with fire. These literally claim that the left is going more to the left and they are staying the same. While being back fucking Jim Crow era laws. And you suggest that while these people are trying to hurt LGBT and black people. We should look out for their best interest. That is beyond stupid and weak. Oh these people hate me so lets make sure we take care of them before we take care of our people

majin_nemesis posted...

Then it's not universal healthcare and red states having universal healthcare would make them change their mind about universal healthcare and make them suport it more

Right now Red States get more money sent to them than they give. And they complain about the government spending. They are benefiting from government programs and yet complaining about them at the same time .

cjsdowg posted...

Right now Red States get more money sent to them than they give. And they complain about the government spending. They are benefiting from government programs and yet complaining about them at the same time .

Then make them give more on par with other states

cjsdowg posted...

There is nothing stupid about fighting fire with fire. These literally claim that the left is going more to the left and they are staying the same. While being back fucking Jim Crow era laws. And you suggest that while these people are trying to hurt LGBT and black people. We should look out for their best interest. That is beyond stupid and weak. Oh these people hate me so lets make sure we take care of them before we take care of our people

Who said anything about before we take care of our people? Democrats should be working towards what is best for everyone and not excluding people they dont like or even people with shitty and harmful views, that is correct.

Do you also think states that you dont like should be denied disaster relief assistance, Mr. Trump?

Or just help everyone because it's easier and the right thing to do?

divot1338 posted...

So youre saying Democrats should follow the example set by Republicans?

Republicans are pushing shit dat PUNISHES democrats, how is dat da same as what da TC is saying lol

divot1338 posted...

So youre saying Democrats should follow the example set by Republicans?

Its called retaliation and escalation.

cjsdowg posted...

There is nothing stupid about fighting fire with fire. These literally claim that the left is going more to the left and they are staying the same. While being back fucking Jim Crow era laws. And you suggest that while these people are trying to hurt LGBT and black people. We should look out for their best interest. That is beyond stupid and weak. Oh these people hate me so lets make sure we take care of them before we take care of our people

This is the kinda rhetoric Trump and his voters say.

I don't care if it makes us "look weak", as long as we're helping everyone.

TonyKojima posted...

Its called retaliation and escalation.

Yes, but a real democrat is and knows better than this.

You actually cant fight fire with fire, it would just make a bigger fire, that expression of fighting fire with fire is really stupid.
You don't fight tyranny with tyranny, you don't fight fascism with fascism, you dont fight inequality with inequality.

The democrats can be more aggressive and still fight back against the republicans without stooping as low as them or crossing the line.
But calling in the troops to occupy red states is so far to the right , I don't see a real democrat ever suggesting something so arbitrary/

emblem-man posted...

This is the kinda rhetoric Trump and his voters say.

I don't care if it makes us "look weak", as long as we're helping everyone.

Keep up the virtue signaling when rights are stripped away and their religion is forced on you. But hey you kept your morals thats what really matters!

TonyKojima posted...

Keep up the virtue signaling when rights are stripped away and their religion is forced on you. But hey you kept your morals thats what really matters!

Good thing I believe your method is both bad morally and bad from a pragmatic point. So even if it wasn't any "virtue signaling", I don't think you're method is how we get these laws and policies passed

TonyKojima posted...

Keep up the virtue signaling when rights are stripped away and their religion is forced on you. But hey you kept your morals thats what really matters!

It is what matters... I would rather keep my soul than sell it to save this shit hole of a country....
At least I can say I didnt lose my integrity, I didn't cross the line and become the very thing I am against.
Unlike you Tony, you have become no different than a Tyrant and/or a Fascist.

and just to paint a picture.. If the Republicans started a militia and attempted any sort of take over , (be it a single state or an onslaught in multiple states. Than I am all for the military being called....) (Like January 6th)

However, A pre-emptive occupation using the military as the democrats have a sitttinig president. Say goodbye to Democrats in 2024, they will be voted out quicker than a cowboy can draw his weapon.

ZaruenKosai posted...

It is what matters... I would rather keep my soul than sell it to save this shit hole of a country....
At least I can say I didnt lose my integrity, I didn't cross the line and become the very thing I swore to destroy. Unlike you Tony, you have become no different than a Tyrant.

Good, remember this when the CRA gets nuked and christian nationalism rules. When you're being lead to the prison cell for blasphemy or whatever asinine law they come up with just remember you are morally superior.

emblem-man posted...

Good thing I believe your method is both bad morally and bad from a pragmatic point. So even if it wasn't any "virtue signaling", I don't think you're method is how we get these laws and policies passed

What is my method?

ZMythos posted...

Or just help everyone because it's easier and the right thing to do?

When those people are literally doing everything that can to hurt marginalized groups.. I say fuck them.

However Republican fight for things that just help their supporters.

Disagree. Republicans fight for things that objectively make things worse for most of their supporters, because it also makes things worse for their enemies. And republicans love to swim around in shit so long as they can comfortably say that their enemies have a bigger pile of shit to swim in.

TC basically just keeps rehashing his "they do it to us" in all his responses, maybe he could tell us how this would lead to postive, meaningful change?

TonyKojima posted...

Good, remember this when the CRA gets nuked and christian nationalism rules. When you're being lead to the prison cell for blasphemy or whatever asinine law they come up with just remember you are morally superior.

If the democrats call in the military, how well do you think they will do in the election in a year from now? Do you really think using military force at this point will result in them winning more votes in the election. The voters will take a look at both parties and begin questioning whether it even matters anymore because both parties are fascist if the Democrats started acting like and doing things that the republicans did.

TonyKojima posted...

Agreed red states are the new slave states.

No one is going to call this out? Really? Promoting slavery just gets a pass?

BDSMKane posted...

TonyKojima posted...
Agreed red states are the new slave states.
No one is going to call this out? Really? Promoting slavery just gets a pass?

You know that coming from someone that has BDSM in his name is quite interesting

GeraldDarko posted...

TC basically just keeps rehashing his "they do it to us" in all his responses, maybe he could tell us how this would lead to postive, meaningful change?

It will let Dems worry about helping dems, and not worry about pulling Republicans over for their own good. Moreover fuck them, how about that. Fuck the people who think Gay people should not have rights, Fuck the people who think that we should not talk about black history, fuck the people who are using living human beings as pawns as they stuff them on buses and send them to cities w that they don't like. Fuck the them people who don't want to give got damn humanity to their fellow man. Fuck the people who want to fire teachers for showing cartoons with gay characters, fuck the people who yell that history is just CRT, fuck the people who tell people to leave the state if they care about Diversity. Tell those people to fuck off is a net positive.

majin_nemesis posted...

You know that coming from someone that has BDSM in his name is quite interesting

Thats a funny reply, but not quite addressing the point. Also, only in the bedroom.

cjsdowg posted...

It will let Dems worry about helping dems, and not worry about pulling Republicans over for their own good. Moreover fuck them, how about that. Fuck the people who think Gay people should not have rights, Fuck the people who think that we should not talk about black history, fuck the people who are using living human beings as pawns as they stuff them on buses and send them to cities w that they don't like. Fuck the them people who don't want to give got damn humanity to their fellow man. Fuck the people who want to fire teachers for showing cartoons with gay characters, fuck the people who yell that history is just CRT, fuck the people who tell people to leave the state if they care about Diversity. Tell those people to fuck off is a net positive.

But you're also saying fuck all of us innocent liberals/leftists who happen to live in red states. We shouldn't be abandoned because of where we live. I get where you're coming from, I totally do, but it's not right.

BDSMKane posted...

No one is going to call this out? Really? Promoting slavery just gets a pass?

Call what out?

Jesus christ. Holy fuck...

This person can vote.

This is some real VFrench logic here.

Some of y'all really want a leftist Trump wouldn't you

Don't a lot of online activists already do that?

Fat Acceptance, unless you're a dude or vote right, treat everyone with compassion, as long as you're not a dude or vote right, and really most of the shit tumblr and twitter focus on. Tumblr ended up losing its porn because under this mind set they thought getting rid of porn would just get rid of their enemies porn and not there's as well. ALso anything to do with the economy or living standards is sharply avoided, because you don't want to risk helping people who aren't you and a lot of online activists are comfortably living class and dont need to worry about that, so why would they care about others benefitting?

"You don't DESERVE representation, it has to be EARNED."

TonyKojima posted...

Call what out?

Promoting slavery. You said..

TonyKojima posted...

Agreed red states are the new slave states.

Wanting red states to be the new slave states...means you want slavery.

Reminder: Tony is a troll blocked by half of the politics board and treated as pest or an amusement by the other half

I like causing problems and making forum communities unusable by filling them with inane and provocative content that is guaranteed to cause seething, either because the users are sick of seeing board space be wasted on deliberately antagonistic messages or because they are irate anyone could possibly be so wrong and proud of it.

cjsdowg posted...

There is nothing stupid about fighting fire with fire

aside for the much bigger flames created and the fire not actually going out?

Its a shame i have friends, hobbies and a job in real life, because if I put as many hours into trolling and shit posting as Orca or Tony, I'd be a fucking god at it

emblem-man posted...

Some of y'all really want a leftist Trump don't you

most of these people acting like that ARE trumpers just pretending to be dems so that republicans can go.. SEE BOTH SIDES SAME THING.
Never trust anyone calling themselves a democrat but acting like a full blown republican.

ZaruenKosai posted...

aside for the much bigger flames created and the fire not actually going out?

Eh, this is a pointless road to go down. One of, if not the, most effective methods of controlling wildfires is preemptive controlled burns to clear undergrowth and create firebreaks.

Obama did everything that he could to work with Republicans. He even told black people he wasn't the president of black people. So it would not seem that he was playing favorites. While reaching out , and making sure to not play favorites the Republicans held up judges. And even voted against stuff that they supported for years to hurt Obama. They acted as if he was this big lefty. When much of the stuff he did was moderate is not right leaning. And so because we had this man give them what they wanted over and over. They still voted for a man on the bases that the white man was being overlooked. And he win.

And yet I am wrong for calling out that working with these people is hurting the democrats and America in general.

And I am wrong for not wanting to help people who don't think I should be treated like human .

cjsdowg posted...

Obama did everything that he could to work with Republicans. He even told black people he wasn't the president of black people. So it would not seem that he was playing favorites. While reaching out , and making sure to not play favorites the Republicans held up judges. And even voted against stuff that they supported for years to hurt Obama. They acted as if he was this big lefty. When much of the stuff he did was moderate is not right leaning. And so because we had this man give them what they wanted over and over. They still voted for a man on the bases that the white man was being overlooked. And he win.

And yet I am wrong for calling out that working with these people is hurting the democrats and America in general.

And I am wrong for not wanting to help people who don't think I should be treated like human .

You paint people with an unnecessarily wide brush.