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Cotton_Eye_Joe 05/16/23 1:27:40 PM #1: |
Why are there so many villains the have legitimate beefs with the federation? --- Forspoken is a 5/10. Get over it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 05/16/23 1:29:16 PM #2: |
Because it's not supposed to be. Earth is at peace because humanity evolved beyond warring with itself after a great nuclear war (I believe). And First Contact cemented that unification. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKz2U4fvA4U ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 05/16/23 1:30:43 PM #3: |
Earth is a utopia. The galaxy is not. A lesson of Star Trek is that utopian institutions require constant upkeep, inspection and scrutiny to maintain and not be corrupted --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 05/16/23 1:32:17 PM #4: |
Cotton_Eye_Joe posted... legitimate beefs with the federation? Such as? --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 05/16/23 1:33:22 PM #5: |
Depends on what you call a "legitimate beefs". Rival powers like Klingons, Romulans, The Dominion? The Borg? The Whale probe? Unless you're talking about modern Trek where The Federation seem like a bunch of corrupt cronies, psychos, and fascists and seems almost dystopian. There's probably some legitimate issues there. Doe posted... Earth is a utopia. The galaxy is not. A lesson of Star Trek is that utopian institutions require constant upkeep, inspection and scrutiny to maintain and not be corrupted And this. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Notti 05/16/23 1:35:25 PM #6: |
Villains have legitimate gripes? The point of a villain is their reasons are based in greed and evil. --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HBOSS 05/16/23 1:35:59 PM #7: |
Hmm i always thought the star trek federation was more a conglamerate than anything. Earth became a utopia, Vulcan was destroyed, QonoS has combat culture, etc... Its all proxy conflicts. So&so are allied with the federation so the entire federation support are acts of war. But when the klingons and romulans went to war and the federation was neutral. Something something kardassians then romulans an klingons teamed up against the kardassians. --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/16/23 1:36:24 PM #8: |
Depends on which Star Trek. In TOS? No one has a legitimate beef with the Federation. All their enemies are jerks. In TNS and DS9 and Voyager? The writers made it less of a Utopia intentionally because they wanted intrigue for better writing. They swiveled the concept of "The future is great, if you live on a Federation main planet. But everywhere else is as shit as ever and they're bitter at the Federation for being holier-than-thou despite never suffering." DS9 literally made up that the Federation has a secret service who do CIA esiponage on everyone else. TOS was never about good writing, it was a metaphor for what humanity could be. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 05/16/23 1:37:12 PM #9: |
Notti posted... The point of a villain is their reasons are based in greed and evil.??? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link_of_time 05/16/23 1:42:41 PM #10: |
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