Current Events > World's greatest smash player is stuck in bronze rank in Street Fighter

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Smash does have a lot of caveats.

"We gotta play 1 on 1, not 4 players, and we gotta pick stock with 4 stocks, not Timed Smash, and it's gotta be on the levels without stage hazards, because a Starwing coming out and blasting you on a timer is unfair, and the items gotta be off, because I don't want you picking up a Heart container and healing or getting a Home Run bat."

Hang on, are we still talking about technical requirements or did you just randomly change the subject without mentioning it and expect people to read your mind?

That the argument is really fuckin' stupid and that anyone older than a high school freshman should be ashamed of taking part in it.

Party gamer is bad at fighting games. Water is wet.

They are all trolls, every one of them.

World's greatest Gran Turismo player struggling in Unreal Tournament

Oh wow, its STUPID. What an adult perspective.

Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.

Michael Jordan sucked at playing baseball.

Operating under the assumption that you need to be an adolescent to call something what it is?

Two different skill sets needed, with crossover skills as well. You can transition to a new fighter, but you wont be the best till you fully adjust and learn match-ups (the part that is most needed and takes the longest)

Two completely different games.

And are these trolls in the room with us right now?

We? I was talking about that stuff and you got mad and weird, so I thought I'd clarify that my preferences do not line up strictly with technical requirements, and that me saying a game is harder does not mean I'm saying it's better.

I have never really understood the whole "Smash is a party game/not a fighting game" thing.

A one man think tank. Just astounding work.

I always thought that despite smash melee's mechanical complexity, it still not as competitive as traditional fighters because fewer people play it (at a non-casual level) . Am I wrong?

Also I know that sf6 has some million dollar prize pool going on too so prob a lot of ppl getting into that game now.

I always thought that despite smash melee's mechanical complexity, it still not as competitive as traditional fighters because fewer people play it (at a non-casual level) . Am I wrong?

Also I know that sf6 has some million dollar prize pool going on too so prob a lot of ppl getting into that game now.

No, there's a lot of people who play Smash Ultimate competitively in tournaments. The issue is Nintendo is always doing something to jeopardize a lot of these tournaments because it's clearly shown they don't give a crap about Competitive Smash. They're the very reason the whole Panda/Smash World Tour controversy happened, Nintendo makes it very hard to obtain a "official license" and without one Nintendo can at any point or reason shut down your tournament.

Comp smash is small relative to the purchase base but it still has tens of thousands of comp players

No, there's a lot of people who play Smash Ultimate competitively in tournaments. The issue is Nintendo is always doing something to jeopardize a lot of these tournaments because it's clearly shown they don't give a crap about Competitive Smash. They're the very reason the whole Panda/Smash World Tour controversy happened, Nintendo makes it very hard to obtain a "official license" and without one Nintendo can at any point or reason shut down your tournament.

I mean those are all just settings you can turn on or off, things built into the game. It's a ruleset that evolved over years, and iirc the very early days of smash involved people playing with items and shit

I don't think it's a bad thing or a knock against smash that you use certain settings to even things out

We? I was talking about that stuff and you got mad and weird, so I thought I'd clarify that my preferences do not line up strictly with technical requirements, and that me saying a game is harder does not mean I'm saying it's better.

Stop trying to get mad about this shit lol

Oh wow, its STUPID. What an adult perspective.

No, there's a lot of people who play Smash Ultimate competitively in tournaments. The issue is Nintendo is always doing something to jeopardize a lot of these tournaments because it's clearly shown they don't give a crap about Competitive Smash. They're the very reason the whole Panda/Smash World Tour controversy happened, Nintendo makes it very hard to obtain a "official license" and without one Nintendo can at any point or reason shut down your tournament.

Heres the thing: you didnt clarify that. We (yes, we, as there was a back and forth discussion between us) were talking about technical requirements, then you said Marvel > SF > SSB without mentioning that you were talking about game preference. Had you said something like I still like Marvel over the other games, or In terms of my preferences Marvel > SF > SSB, then it would be clear. But by just saying what you did with no mention of anything else, especially when you look at what quote you were responding to, makes it look like you were still on the subject at hand.

Yeah, Capcom and Nintendo are basically polar opposites when it comes to supporting the competitive scene. Competitive Smash is successful despite Nintendo. Competitive SFV (And inevitably SF6) is so big because of Capcom's support of it.

Nintendo is overprotective of their IPs in general. I swear like every few months there's always some YouTube controversy involving Nintendo striking/claiming videos with some of their game within their content. Most recently happened with PointCrow if I'm not mistaken.

Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.

I always thought that despite smash melee's mechanical complexity, it still not as competitive as traditional fighters because fewer people play it (at a non-casual level) . Am I wrong?

Also I know that sf6 has some million dollar prize pool going on too so prob a lot of ppl getting into that game now.

This is the dumbest take the FGC has shat out (and that's surprising because there are almost no good takes to be found there.)

It ain't the FGC's take, but Masahiro Sakurai's:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/2/AAOwOpAAEeMS.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/3/AAOwOpAAEeMT.jpg

If he still believed that, Ultimate wouldn't have catered as much as it did to the competitive scene. Try again.

Not even the inventor of Math gets to dictate that 1+1=3. The fact is that smash is not a fighting game and there's no factual evidence or convincing arguments presented to the contrary.

Yeah man Sakurai catered to the competitive scene because he had a sudden revelation that Smash is/will be a fighting game.

Totally not because a competitive scene improves the longevity of a game, nope nope!

1+1=3.