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MARlO
05/09/23 10:56:59 AM
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I always thought that the nicotine in cigs is what kills you, but apparently nicotine is just the addictive agent that keeps you smoking. The inhalation of burning smoke is whats actually killing you, or so I just read.

But then by that standard, isnt smoking pot equally dangerous, just not equally addictive?

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tripleh213
05/09/23 10:57:59 AM
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No

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ironman2009
05/09/23 10:58:24 AM
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common VAPENATION W

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goatthief
05/09/23 10:59:03 AM
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not living up to your goated username buddy

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Ratchetrockon
05/09/23 11:00:18 AM
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i thought nicotine is more dangerous than caffeine

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Doe
05/09/23 11:00:35 AM
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It's particularly the smoke of tobacco that is carcinogenic, just as chewing tobacco causes cancer in the mouth and gums.

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ROBANN_88
05/09/23 11:01:15 AM
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Don't cigarettes have like tar and stuff?

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 11:02:33 AM
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Marijuana smoke is dangerous but big tobacco puts all kinds of fuckin shit in the cigarettes to make them more addictive and all that stuff is much worse for you.

If you grew your own tobacco and smoked it at a similar rate to weed the damage should be about the same. But no one would ever do this.

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ArchNemo
05/09/23 11:05:05 AM
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I imagine breathing any kind of smoke is vad for you, but the smoke off of some things are definitely more toxic than others

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RespectWomen
05/09/23 11:06:34 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Don't cigarettes have like tar and stuff?


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MARlO
05/09/23 11:15:29 AM
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Doe posted...
It's particularly the smoke of tobacco that is carcinogenic, just as chewing tobacco causes cancer in the mouth and gums.
Ah. I didnt realize this.
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On Reddit. And everybody was agreeing with the person so I just assumed they were right. Glad I asked.

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FelineCyborg
05/09/23 11:22:07 AM
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the tar from cigarettes is bad, it gets trapped in the lungs. tar from weed isnt as bad and not as harmful to the lungs.

smoking anything isnt good for your lungs.

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FL81
05/09/23 11:24:15 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Marijuana smoke is dangerous but big tobacco puts all kinds of fuckin shit in the cigarettes to make them more addictive and all that stuff is much worse for you.

If you grew your own tobacco and smoked it at a similar rate to weed the damage should be about the same. But no one would ever do this.
why doesn't someone just make some hippie organic tobacco and sell that

there'd be a market for it

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pauIie
05/09/23 11:26:12 AM
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you'd have to imagine snoop would have gotten cancer by now if that were the case

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Questionmarktarius
05/09/23 11:29:57 AM
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Tobacco is infested with lead and polonium. That's what kills you.
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voldothegr8
05/09/23 11:36:50 AM
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Yes all carcinogens regularly inhaled are extremely bad for your lungs. Nicotine itself is rather harmless to long term health, it's just super addicting.

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 11:37:23 AM
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FL81 posted...
why doesn't someone just make some hippie organic tobacco and sell that

there'd be a market for it

It exists. It's just not got much marketing and it's very very very very very hard to market tobacco products these days. And because it's organic, it's missing most of the addictive chemicals so it doesn't really satisfy people who were already smoking big tobacco stuff.

So the real market is for people who want to smoke but haven't smoked before who are concerned about health but not enough to not smoke in the first place.

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 11:43:36 AM
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pauIie posted...
you'd have to imagine snoop would have gotten cancer by now if that were the case
Lots of people go through their lives without getting cancer. My grandfather could go through a carton in a week and still didn't get cancer until he was over 80 years old. I had another grandfather who worked in a coal mine and also smoked like crazy and he never got cancer despite the fact that he'd blow his nose and the tissue would be black. He died in his 70s.

All I'm trying to say is one person not having cancer (yet) doesn't really mean anything. I do wish Snoop a long healthy life regardless.

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Questionmarktarius
05/09/23 11:44:21 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
And because it's organic, it's missing most of the addictive chemicals so it doesn't really satisfy people who were already smoking big tobacco stuff.
Also it's expensive as hell, because it needs actual fertile land, instead of being seeped in those phosphorous-based fertilizers that are full of uranium somehow.
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FL81
05/09/23 11:45:42 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Also it's expensive as hell, because it needs actual fertile land, instead of being seeped in those phosphorous-based fertilizers that are full of uranium somehow.
nothing like a nice radioactive smoke after eating plastic

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MARlO
05/09/23 11:46:38 AM
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I take back my withdraw. According to lung.org, youre actually the one who read wrong. I shouldve double checked before I listened to you:

Smoke is harmful to lung health. Whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana, toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.

https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health

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Questionmarktarius
05/09/23 11:51:13 AM
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Burning anything made of hydrogen and carbon (basically everything that's ever been alive), inevitably creates benzene. Benzene is bad.
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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 11:51:50 AM
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As I've mentioned before, nobody smokes marijuana with the same frequency with which people smoke cigarettes (except huge outliers like Snoop, Bob Marley, etc). Cigarette smoke is dangerous but it's not asbestos dangerous. People who quit smoking early or are only occasionally exposed to second hand smoke are at very low risk of cancer.

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MARlO
05/09/23 11:54:37 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

No. Because it already stated the facts. If you dont want to listen, or wanna turn it into an ackshually when its not, thats on you.

But you should know that misrepresenting health facts online is harmful to others that read it. Its just another form of antivaxxing.

Good day.

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Master_Kazuya
05/09/23 11:54:41 AM
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Is dip bad as smoking?

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 11:56:28 AM
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Master_Kazuya posted...
Is dip bad as smoking?

Varies, I've seen arguments that say it's even worse than smoking because you'll end up doing it more often.

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 12:05:36 PM
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Barring a few exceptions there's not a significant difference in the hazard levels of inhaled smoke from burning different plants. Burning up a bunch of pine straw is just as bad as burning up a pile of maple leaves. This holds true across most plant matter. Tobacco and marijuana aren't outliers here. Tobacco and marijuana are only notable because the smoke also has psychoactive properties.

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shironinja
05/09/23 12:13:05 PM
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I love how cigarette filters are often thought to be biodegradable cotton so people leave them everywhere.

But they are actually made from acetate (plastic) and do not biodegrade. When you drop them they will stay there for +12 years unless someone picks them up.

Plus they don't even filter much, if any smoke from entering your lungs, and have been confirmed to be there to make cigarettes only "appear" safer while saving cigarette companies money (acetate is cheaper to produce than tobacco).

https://www.brusselstimes.com/476676/cigarette-filters-do-more-harm-than-good-experts-call-for-eu-wide-ban

Please pick up cigarette butts if you see them.. if you must smoke buy your own tobacco and try a water bong .. it's way more sustainable.

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Questionmarktarius
05/09/23 12:15:07 PM
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shironinja posted...
Plus they don't even filter much, if any smoke from entering your lungs, and have been confirmed to be there to make cigarettes only "appear" safer while saving cigarette companies money (acetate is cheaper to produce than tobacco).
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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 12:19:58 PM
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Nobody is going around smoking packs of dried maple leaves contaminated with lead, polonium, ammonia, plastic, and formaldehyde. Obviously no one is dying from it because no one is doing it.

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COVxy
05/09/23 12:20:32 PM
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I would guess that the primary difference is that the typical tobacco user smokes many cigarettes a day, but this is probably not the case with marijuana.

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Questionmarktarius
05/09/23 12:22:01 PM
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who chainsmokes pot?
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COVxy
05/09/23 12:27:25 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
who chainsmokes pot?

That's the point.

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MC_BatCommander
05/09/23 1:04:27 PM
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Inhaling smoke is bad for you regardless of the source.

That said, cigarette smokers probably inhale a hell of a lot more of it on a daily basis and cigarettes have a bunch of other chemicals in them so I wouldn't say the two are equivalent.

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Enderknight17
05/09/23 1:05:20 PM
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Master_Kazuya posted...
Is dip bad as smoking?

Probably. It has more nicotine for one thing, so it's harder to quit. I think oral cancer rates are lower, but that's probably because not as many people chew or dip.

Then there's Swedish snus which is likely the "safest" tobacco around. Still some risks but not as many. And it's so much better than the American knock off version.

Personally I love chewing tobacco. Especially if I'm outside working. But I usually dip or use snus.

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/23 1:06:22 PM
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Nobody is going around smoking packs of marijuana contaminated with lead, polonium, ammonia, plastic, and formaldehyde either. That's why no one is dying from it.

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