Current Events > Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 SPOILER discussion

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I kinda wish Rocket was allowed to just handle the High Evolutionary all by himself. Like a full 1 on 1 battle and the rest of the team doesn't arrive till he is completely subdued

Prismsblade posted...

Great movie overall, the story, action and visuals were amazing.

My only gripes being few. Drax is a horrible character and dragged down every scene he was in.

The actor who played Peter kind of fell flat for every serious scene. He talked and acted awkward as fuck.

The high evolutionary was a good villain and one of the most heartless I've seen in a while. Though marvel really needs to stop killing off all their bad guys. What is even the point of super heroes when there are no super villains?

I do agree villains need to be left alive and they should play around with a villain team up...but high evolutionary deserved to be executed first chance, hes way too evil and dangerous. This isnt fucking rhino, or scorpion or taskmaster

Just saw it.

That. Was. Fantastic.

Zikten posted...

In the "there is no God, that's why I stepped in" scene, why did him saying that cause everyone in the room to pull out their guns? Were they offended or what was the issue?

I got the sense that that was when they realized he was going to drag them all down further than they wanted to go. Religious people who were tolerating the fact that his experiments went against what they believed in exchange for the power of being associated.

CableZL posted...

Just saw it.

That. Was. Fantastic.

Glad you enjoyed it

Marvel needs to make sure Secret Invasion is a banger as well to clear away quantumania

Also for those asking. Gunn confirmed the reason Peter doesnt have his boots and helmet is because he was very drunk/hungover and then Rocket got seriously injured and they left immediately without gathering supplies.

not sure its the best answer but its entirely believable Peter would act without thinking in a tense situation

Prismsblade posted...

The high evolutionary was a good villain and one of the most heartless I've seen in a while. Though marvel really needs to stop killing off all their bad guys. What is even the point of super heroes when there are no super villains?

There are 4 million other villains to use. The movies really can't be like the comics because these characters make an appearance every few years rather than every month for decades. There has to be finality to the villain. Look at any other action movie; the bad guy always dies. Also, the "MCU kills all their villains" thing has been way overblown for a decade now. It's roughly 50/50 who lives and who dies.

A Few other issues I had during the movie was the infiltration mission to find Rockets security bypass.

Star lord convinces one of the staff to give him computer access with some heartfelt speech which actually worked. But Only because she forgot not only did Gamora threaten her at gun point but fucking killed and or injured innocent guards and unarmed staff. Wtf?

Another towards the end was the High evolutionarys facial injuries. So you're telling me after decades of genetic R&D research and gifting himself OP gravity powers the best this super genuis with a god complex and obsseseion with perfection could do for that was stapling his face onto his skin like the Joker? Seriously?

You'd think that would have healed by now at least.

"Rocket Teefs Floor go now! Rocket Teefs Floor go now!"

T_T

Floor was the most innocent and terrified of the group

Oh that's what Floor was saying in that scene. I had trouble understanding her at that part.

The difference between james gunn and peyton reed :/

I think the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy is the strongest of the non-crossover movies. The only area where I feel they dropped the ball is the lack of a deep drive into Drax's back story. We pretty much got a deep dive on everyone except for him, unless I'm forgetting something.

Yeah, Drax was definitely the worst-handled Guardian, mainly because they just made him the comic relief guy for most of his appearances. The ending of his arc in Vol3 still hit nicely, but it wouldn't been better if he had been more of an actual character for his preceding few appearances.

wasn't ready for the animal abuse. even if it was fake animals.

HornyLevel posted...

Minions did not make less than the first 3, so I have no idea the fuck you're talking about even when adjusted for inflation.

I don't even know what you're saying with the rest. See me in a year or two. There's nothing more to say to delusional MCU fans that make the dumbest excuses for something so obvious. Like saying dumb shit will change anything.

as an outside observer I think your way more off base here and just coming off as a hate boner

CableZL posted...

I think the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy is the strongest of the non-crossover movies. The only area where I feel they dropped the ball is the lack of a deep drive into Drax's back story. We pretty much got a deep dive on everyone except for him, unless I'm forgetting something.

do we consider CA3 a crossover? Im guessing yes cause its right on that line.

otherwise Id say CA1/2/3 is the top trilogy but ya I would put GotG just a hair behind it.

Zeeak4444 posted...

do we consider CA3 a crossover? Im guessing yes cause its right on that line.

otherwise Id say CA1/2/3 is the top trilogy but ya I would put GotG just a hair behind it.

Yeah, I put Civil War in the crossover category because so many other heroes are featured in it.

CableZL posted...

Yeah, I put Civil War in the crossover category because so many other heroes are featured in it.

Ya thats totally fair lol. I agree with you for sure then.

on another note would have been satisfied if thats how Star-lord retired, but happy to see him coming back in some capacity (it sounds like).

Zeeak4444 posted...

do we consider CA3 a crossover? Im guessing yes cause its right on that line.

otherwise Id say CA1/2/3 is the top trilogy but ya I would put GotG just a hair behind it.

CA1 was a snooze fest imo

MaxEffingBemis posted...

CA1 was a snooze fest imo

I agreed the first couple times I saw it but after WS came out it grew on me a bit and with CA3 I actually enjoy it enough.

its the weakest of the three and weaker than a lot of other MCUs but the arc from 1-3 is pretty perfect.

Captain America would be the 2nd best MCU trilogy for sure, with only CA1 holding it back. Winter Soldier and Civil War are both great, but Civil War is more of Avengers 2.5, but I'm not going to hold it against it -- it's still a movie with Captain America as the main character.

GotG is just 3 solid movies, with a more defined vision because they were all directed by the same guy from start to finish.

Guardians>cap america>spiderman>ant man>iron man

Marvel need to find someone competent and get vol 4. You cant tease that team at the end and not give us more

Get the russos, everything theyve done outside of the mcu has been bad

Man... I seriously enjoyed this one from start to finish. I'm gonna have to go see this one in theaters again. It's gotta be up there with my all time MCU favorites.

Guardians definitely has the best trilogy even with 2 not being that good

Hinakuluiau posted...

Guardians definitely has the best trilogy even with 2 not being that good

The weakest of guardians is better than the weakest of spidey and cap

But mcu trilogies arent quite trilogies

They build off other movies as well

Tbf the Guardians movies feel the most self-contained in their trilogies. I could watch all three and fully understand what's happening with the exception of the awful gamora shit the Russo Bros conjured up.

It's crazy how badly they fumbled that character.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Tbf the Guardians movies feel the most self-contained in their trilogies. I could watch all three and fully understand what's happening with the exception of the awful gamora shit the Russo Bros conjured up.

It's crazy how badly they fumbled that character.

They did well with the character in IW

James did well with that mess he inherited, also lucked out that thor got dropped off

I always wished in endgame gamora 2.0 got dusted with thanos army and she gave a nice good bye to nebula

She just should have never been 'killed off'. It was a detriment to the character and the writing. It felt like they were writing themselves into a corner, and the constant Gamora exposition in GotG3 was tiring. It wasn't worth the 3rd act resolution of their relationship, though that was the best way to end it.

Smashingpmkns posted...

She just should have never been 'killed off'. It was a detriment to the character and the writing. It felt like they were writing themselves into a corner, and the constant Gamora exposition in GotG3 was tiring. It wasn't worth the 3rd act resolution of their relationship, though that was the best way to end it.

Eh the killed off and the thanos dialogue is iconic. That part was right, endgame reversing it was not

CableZL posted...

I think the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy is the strongest of the non-crossover movies. The only area where I feel they dropped the ball is the lack of a deep drive into Drax's back story. We pretty much got a deep dive on everyone except for him, unless I'm forgetting something.

Unlike comics Drax, the one in the movie doesn't really have much of a backstory to tell. He was some dude, Thanos came and killed his family, he wants revenge.

Blue_Popo posted...

But mcu trilogies arent quite trilogies

They build off other movies as well

This is why I like the GotG trilogy. There feels like a steady through-line in terms of character development and themes across all three movies, even though you do still have IW/EG between two of them. But they all feel cohesive and like an actual three-part story.

Compared to, say, Ant-Man, where each movie doesn't really have anything to do with the previous ones, especially Quantamania, and they're just movies made for the sake of having more movies, all written by different people with no coordination for characterization of story arcs.

Rharyx211 posted...

Compared to, say, Ant-Man, where each movie doesn't really have anything to do with the previous ones, especially Quantamania, and they're just movies made for the sake of having more movies, all written by different people with no coordination for characterization of story arcs.

The Ant-Man movies are related to each other. There are storylines that span all 3 movies, with other movies being in between here and there.

The only thing Ant-Man 3 had to do with 1 and 2 were the characters involved and the Quantum Realm. It was just an "introduce Kang" movie.

Like, you aren't watching it to see the conclusion of a trilogy, you're watching it just to get the next update on what's going on in the MCU.

Rharyx211 posted...

The only thing Ant-Man 3 had to do with 1 and 2 were the characters involved and the Quantum Realm. It was just an "introduce Kang" movie.

Like, you aren't watching it to see the conclusion of a trilogy, you're watching it just to get the next update on what's going on in the MCU.

Ant-Man 3 continued various storylines from 1 and 2. Your claim that the 3 Ant-Man movies "had nothing to do with each other" is just false.

Yeah all of thr mcu trilogiess feel as connected as each other. You def need to watch other stuff to be fully caught up on the trilogy

If anything thr 2 black panther movies feel thr most disconnected

IMO the Antman trilogy isnt even about Scott but about each individual family member of the Ant family with Scott just along for the ride
AM: Scott/Hank
AM&TW: Hope
AM-Q: Janet/Hank a bit

One thing I didn't realize is that the Holiday Special (which I forgot was a thing) actually sets up things for this movie. I was genuinely confused to why they said Mantis was Peter's sister and thought I just forgot a throwaway line from 2 or something

Darkninja42 posted...

One thing I didn't realize is that the Holiday Special (which I forgot was a thing) actually sets up things for this movie. I was genuinely confused to why they said Mantis was Peter's sister and thought I just forgot a throwaway line from 2 or something

Thats pretty much the only thing youd miss from it

That and the Kevin Bacon reference on Jasons newspaper in the credits scene

littlebro07 posted...

Thats pretty much the only thing youd miss from it

That and the Kevin Bacon reference on Jasons newspaper in the credits scene

From the description I read I guess it sets up Cosmo's introduction and how they bought Knowhere, but I just assumed those were things that just happened off screen in between movies so I guess yeah you're right

Easily the best of the trilogy! We need more Cosmo!!

Ah thats right I forgot Cosmo was officially introduced with a voice and everything in the Holiday Special. Shes been around since the first movie but just a funny cameo at that point

Darkninja42 posted...

From the description I read I guess it sets up Cosmo's introduction and how they bought Knowhere, but I just assumed those were things that just happened off screen in between movies so I guess yeah you're right

Sort of. The special starts off at Nowhere and there is a bit of exposition that they bought Knowhere.

Cosmo is introduced but is treated like shes been around for a while.

both things are just assumed to have happened rather than shown on screen.

the Mantis thing could be inferred from Vol 2 but was a plot point

I'll always hate that thanos inexplicably just let the collector live

Anyways, few days after release and i cant stop thinking of this movie. I want secret invasion now, it has reignited my desire for more mcu after quantumania shattered it

Blue_Popo posted...

I'll always hate that thanos inexplicably just let the collector live

he did?
was he in this movie or have I missed something?

Xerun posted...

he did?
was he in this movie or have I missed something?

Naw

Xerun posted...

he did?
was he in this movie or have I missed something?

In the special they say they bought knowhere from the collector

Last time we see knowhere, its all destroyed by thanos

Blue_Popo posted...

Glad you enjoyed it

Marvel needs to make sure Secret Invasion is a banger as well to clear away quantumania

Quantumania wasn't even bad dude lol

Worst you csn call it is mid. Most of the mcu haters are still hung up on Thor not ant man

what happened to starlords trademark visor. sure would have been handy in the end there

Xerun posted...

Cosmo is introduced but is treated like shes been around for a while.

Cosmo appeared in both Vol 1 and 2. They are just throwaway scenes so a lot of people forget.

In vol 1 she is in collectors collection and growls angrily at rocket who growls back in kind. She is encased in a glass container and escpses to lick collectors face after the movie ends. So that is her first time meeting the guardians and rocket which is kinda interesting

I legitimately cant remember what she does in Vol 2 but she appears at some point im pretty sure.

In the first movie the character was an Easter egg for comic nerds who already would know "him"(given he is a male in the comics)

Those flashbacks scene killed me. God. Theyre still sticking with me now. Great movie. Really thought they were going to kill someone off