Current Events > UK severly restricts protesting with new draconian laws

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The other stuff seems extremely excessive, but the roads and stuff is common sense. It's incredibly narcissistic to assume blocking off traffic and causing huge bottlenecks that can effects hundreds of people and cause a butterfly effect is a "minor inconvenience"

Literally how ANYONE has any of the rights you do.

All of them.

Do people really not understand how few rights people had, unless a wealthy, white, landowner until people violently protested?

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So take it straight to Buckingham Palace. Take it straight to Scotland Yard. Take it straight to the corporations. Ruin and disrupt their lives.

2023 is a completely different place than those times and I would like to see studies as well as evidence from these protests that blocking traffic and delaying people's lives, which can cause death and firings amongst tons of other things, helped, and can help.

So take it straight to Buckingham Palace. Take it straight to Scotland Yard. Take it straight to the corporations. Ruin and disrupt their lives.

2023 is a completely different place than those times and I would like to see studies as well as evidence from these protests that blocking traffic and delaying people's lives, which can cause death and firings amongst tons of other things, helped, and can help.

People said the same shit back then.

Those in power can just ignore most protest unless it's literal French Revolution shit.

So stopping the economy functioning is often the best strategy, or causing them to waste so much money it's easier to be a better human being.

If you're getting upset at the protesters and not the horrible laws and conditions that made the protests necessary, you're in the wrong, end of story.

You're just some selfish kid who wants to ignore the problems of others, which is EXACTLY why protests like this happen because you SHOULDN'T ignore it.

Again, it's 2023. Stopping the economy is gonna create more enemies than help. Has anybody tried taking on Buckingham Palace head on? What will they do when hundreds are storming it?

Again, it's 2023. Stopping the economy is gonna create more enemies than help. Has anybody tried taking on Buckingham Palace head on? What will they do when hundreds are storming it?

As longer as you arent hindering transportation, ruining public events like concerts or harassing people at places like grocery stores, protest all you like. But people dont show this courtesy so thats why at least they are implementing it in the UK.

Lol @ unlimited fine

How would that work exactly?

blatant violation of the human right to free speech

"You shouldn't protest. Inconveniencing regular people will just turn them against you. You shouldn't strike. Disrupting an industry is just going to hurt the economy and regular people and turn them against you."

ITT: Protesting is fine as long as you don't slightly inconvenience me on my drive home

wtf?

Yes, that is how things are in England

Well no clearly it wasn't "how things are" until just recently.

You have a right to share your opinions. You don't have a right to obstruct public roads.

Those latter 2 are ridiculous but the road blocking penalty is fair, next lol. Only people insecure with their cause or self-righteous narcissists who think they're more worthy than others will pull that dumb shit. It's akin to a tantrum by spoiled brat kids. If a protest has a good cause, then you don't need to be an ass and disrupt everyone else to force people to pay attention to it.

Just say you disagree with free speech

I don't.

Two entire topics and you still can't figure it out.

So you support disruptive and annoying protest that may inconvenience you?

Not if they're blocking roads. They can protest vocally and many themselves heard, but physically impeding travel is a step too far.

Not if they're blocking roads. They can protest vocally and make themselves heard, but physically impeding travel is a step too far.

So you dont support free speech?

I do. I don't support blocking traffic.

I do. I don't support free speech.

hmmmmm

Please don't quote me saying what I said

So you dont support free speech? You dont believe you deserve to vote? You don't deserve basic worker rights? Black people didnt deserve to be free of slavery? Women don't deserve votes?

Make up your mind!

Spoilers. All those things I mentioned were earned by the disruptive protests you condemn.

standing on a street corner vocally spreading your messsge is free speech

Illegally blocking a road to prevent people from passing is not a form of speech.

standing on a street corner vocally spreading your messsge is free speech

Illegally blocking a road to prevent people from passing is not a form of speech.

All protest is a form of speech.

standing on a street corner vocally spreading your messsge is free speech

Illegally blocking a road to prevent people from passing is not a form of speech.

Imagine living in 2023 and thinking what is legal and what is right are exactly the same thing

You think blocking traffic is right.

There's a group of people who stand in front of planned parenthood every Saturday in my town with signs. They stand on the sidewalk.

Should they be standing in the street instead, in your opinion?

Speech is speech. Blocking traffic is blocking traffic.

Should they be standing in the street instead, in your opinion?

You think blocking traffic is right.

There's a group of people who stand in front of planned parenthood every Saturday in my town with signs. They stand on the sidewalk and say that abortion is bad. People just drive by and mostly ignore them.

Should they be standing in the street instead, in your opinion?