Board 8 > Tekken Mafia Topic 6 - Here comes a new challenger!

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ctesjbuvf
04/03/23 2:55:15 PM
#1:


Fighters still participating in the King of Iron Fist Tournament VIII:
1) Abacus
2) Corrik
3) Death
4) Hb
5) IGCD
6) Isquen
7) Kirby
8) Lea
9) Lopen
10) MZero
11) Peaf
12) Plum
13) Red
14) Wallz

The Defeated:
LD1: Ulti - Jin Kazama - MISHIMA ZAIBATSU Roleblocker
KN1: Ben - Lars Alexandersson - TOWN Vanilla
KN1: SBell - Julia Chang - TOWN Vanilla

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends at 7pm EST, approximately 4 hours from now.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:03:12 PM
#2:


Copied from #451... again

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:03:36 PM
#3:


And i forgot to paste zzz

Lopen posted...
(red) > Lea > Peaf > Kirby > IGCD > wallz > abacus > Death

IMO
If red were scum surely he would have a claim ready to go by now and would do it to get you off his back?

Or is that too much wifom territory... yeah probably.

He's definitely lost the spunk that he had, which i had used to call him town yesterday. Red and mzero are my biggest question marks in the game right now, as far as what i think about them.

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ctesjbuvf
04/03/23 4:04:26 PM
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Oh right, I should have these down early in the topic:
[3] Wallz - Isquen, Plum, (Lea), Abacus
[1] Red - (Corrik), Lopen
[1] Plum - MZero, (Abacus), (Peaf), (IGCD), (Lopen), (Wallz), (Lopen)
[1] Kirby - (Isquen), (Lea), (Peaf), (Corrik), (Peaf), IGCD
[1] Abacus - Lea
[1] Death - Corrik
[0] Corrik - (Kirby), (Isquen), (Plum), (Isquen)
[0] Isquen - (Corrik), (Lopen), (Corrik)
[0] Lopen - (Plum)
[0] Lea - (Lopen), (IGCD), (Isquen)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends at 7pm EST, 3 hours from now.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:05:10 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Corrik hasn't actually officially claimed shit to my knowledge. Made vague insinuations about being doctor like but nothing that couldn't be taken back.

That's true. We've already seen him take back... how many different things that he said? I stopped counting.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:05:52 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Oh right, I should have these down early in the topic:
[3] Wallz - Isquen, Plum, Lea, (Abacus)
[1] Red - (Corrik), Lopen
[1] Plum - MZero, (Abacus), (Peaf), (IGCD), (Lopen), (Wallz), (Lopen)
[1] Kirby - (Isquen), (Lea), (Peaf), (Corrik), (Peaf), IGCD
[1] Abacus - Lea
[1] Death - Corrik
[0] Corrik - (Kirby), (Isquen), (Plum), (Isquen)
[0] Isquen - (Corrik), (Lopen), (Corrik)
[0] Lopen - (Plum)
[0] Lea - (Lopen), (IGCD), (Isquen)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends at 7pm EST, 3 hours from now.
You have lea twice

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Lopen
04/03/23 4:06:16 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
If red were scum surely he would have a claim ready to go by now and would do it to get you off his back?

No. Red as scum is too cowardly to claim at this point and doesn't claim for the sake of "keeping up appearances"

IE exactly what he's doing right now.

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red13n
04/03/23 4:07:43 PM
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Lopen posted...
No. Red as scum is too cowardly to claim at this point and doesn't claim for the sake of "keeping up appearances"

IE exactly what he's doing right now.

red being too cowardly to do anything is the most hilarious shit you've said.

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red13n
04/03/23 4:08:44 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
e's definitely lost the spunk that he had, which i had used to call him town yesterday. Red and mzero are my biggest question marks in the game right now, as far as what i think about them.

spunk is still in here a bit but definitely forced subdued because of work and waking up to town doing dumb things that kind of caught me off guard(Mass claim should not have been in the cards. I don't think its changed the pile at all for the better)

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red13n
04/03/23 4:08:56 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

None.

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:12:25 PM
#13:


Bad internet can happen to anyone..
Thats his best feature

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red13n
04/03/23 4:12:28 PM
#14:


Excuse me, that is "has contributed slightly more than hb".

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Kirby321
04/03/23 4:13:16 PM
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I don't see much of a case for Abacus in either direction.

MZero was going hard on questioning Corrik last night and I believe... Plum, too? Between Abacus, Hb, IGCD, Red, Wallz, and MZero, I feel the best about MZero. I definitely don't think MZero should be on the chopping block.

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Lopen
04/03/23 4:13:44 PM
#16:


red13n posted...
red being too cowardly to do anything is the most hilarious shit you've said.

You constantly make poor game decisions in mafia because you're afraid people will actually call you on shit later

Your entire mafia MO is cowardice incarnate

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masterplum
04/03/23 4:14:16 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I dont remember a single strong opinion abacus made

so yeah Im in board

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:14:24 PM
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I remember HB more than Abacus myself

But they're pretty similar

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:15:04 PM
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I also like Mzero enough for being one of the first to harass Ulti.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:15:30 PM
#20:


Yeah i didn't include hb in my list because he wasn't a claimed vanilla, and that's who all i was focusing on with that thought exercise.

I'm fine with a lynch of either hb or Abacus, sure. But that feels a bit like delaying the inevitable and just crossing our fingers, since neither one really gives any significant information with their flip.

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Lopen
04/03/23 4:15:47 PM
#21:


Sometimes (often times) it takes more bravery to just claim than it does to refuse to

If you put out what you have, you face the scrutiny of the players in the game and have to defend

If you don't, you're in a comfortable familiar place, easily defensible

Red13n? Definitely a cowardly player if I've ever seen one.

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Kirby321
04/03/23 4:16:06 PM
#22:


Better than nothing, I suppose. Wallz doesn't look particularly amazing, but at least he's had reads this game. Can't really say the same for Abacus.

##Vote: Abacus

On that note, what has IGCD been up to? After everything with Ulti simmered down, dude has completely checked out of the game it feels. Hb has also been conspicuously absent.

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red13n
04/03/23 4:16:47 PM
#23:


Lopen posted...
You constantly make poor game decisions in mafia because you're afraid people will actually call you on shit later

Your entire mafia MO is cowardice incarnate
The hell are you even talking about. I'm usually scared to actually throw my thoughts up because I get self-conscious. But as far as actually doing things and decision making, no, this is just dumb.

Unlike some people that get so wrapped up in their own nonsense that they cant tell left from right.

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red13n
04/03/23 4:17:40 PM
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Lopen posted...
Sometimes (often times) it takes more bravery to just claim than it does to refuse to

If you put out what you have, you face the scrutiny of the players in the game and have to defend

If you don't, you're in a comfortable familiar place, easily defensible

Red13n? Definitely a cowardly player if I've ever seen one.

Okay this is seriously just a bunch of nonsense.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:18:52 PM
#26:


Hey man, low blow. I know that my right hand is the one that has five fingers

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:19:08 PM
#27:


I am against an Abacus lynch at the moment however
If only because he may need to be replaced first

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red13n
04/03/23 4:19:37 PM
#28:


##vote: Kirby


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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:20:10 PM
#29:


htaeD posted...
I am against an Abacus lynch at the moment however
If only because he may need to be replaced first
He himself said his internet was back. I don't like this defense at all.

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Lopen
04/03/23 4:20:13 PM
#30:


I'm just calling it what it is, man

It's pro-town to claim here, yet you won't because you don't want to think you can be bullied into claiming in the future.

You are afraid of losing some sort of weird leverage based on rep when... you can just... play well, and be known as "that guy who probably won't claim but might if the game state dictates" one game in a sample size isn't going to change that

Like that last game where you killed Kanzaris who you thought was town so you would not be known as the guy who negotiates as terrorists was just sad

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red13n
04/03/23 4:21:32 PM
#31:


Lopen posted...
You are afraid of losing some sort of weird leverage based on rep when... you can just... play well, and be known as "that guy who probably won't claim but might if the game state dictates" one game in a sample size isn't going to change that
What exactly in this game state dictates that I should claim now? We have 3 billion vanillas. Scum has x unknown power roles. Game state dictates we cull the vanillas.

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wallmasterz
04/03/23 4:22:10 PM
#32:


Lea, did you say you checked abacus timestamps and he was online throughout the day? Or was that someone else?

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masterplum
04/03/23 4:22:17 PM
#33:


Kirby321 posted...
Better than nothing, I suppose. Wallz doesn't look particularly amazing, but at least he's had reads this game. Can't really say the same for Abacus.

##Vote: Abacus

On that note, what has IGCD been up to? After everything with Ulti simmered down, dude has completely checked out of the game it feels. Hb has also been conspicuously absent.

I dont like this post

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red13n
04/03/23 4:23:16 PM
#34:


Lopen posted...
Like that last game where you killed Kanzaris who you thought was town so you would not be known as the guy who negotiates as terrorists was just sad
Okay, seriously, no.

If your going to be the guy that runs around making empty threats you will never be able to threaten anyone in the future. I kill Kanz 990 times out of a thousand in that situation. The other 10 are when someone pops up and goes "hey i have a scan on kanz hes town back off" and then I go "oh sorry okay".

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Kirby321
04/03/23 4:25:53 PM
#37:


If "timestamps" is referring to the "Last Login" thing, then Abacus is online right now, it seems

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:26:13 PM
#38:


Peace___Frog posted...

He himself said his internet was back. I don't like this defense at all.


Oh he did? Well sorry then I missed it.
Proceed.

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ViolentAbacus
04/03/23 4:26:26 PM
#39:


htaeD posted...
I am against an Abacus lynch at the moment however
If only because he may need to be replaced first

My internet came back around ~1ish.

Obviously I am against my vote. But, I would accept my mislynch over other peoples.

Lea, why are you focused on me and not HB? I understand we both lack content, but you seem oddly focused. Is it just because I backed off Ulti yesterday?

I also don't like Kirby's "Better than nothing".

Wallz I still feel is the best bet out of the vanillas, partially because of his "IDK what's going on" posts which had a lot of words, but nothing in them. Also the initial believing in a potential vig shot immediately early in the day feels off. That would not be my first guess, personally.

Also, back to Wallz, people backed off of Plum because he is uncountered and Corrik has yet to give a great reason to get back on him except... He is certain that there isn't a doctor. No reasoning why.

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red13n
04/03/23 4:26:38 PM
#40:


Peace___Frog posted...
He himself said his internet was back. I don't like this defense at all.

Are we talking death or are we talking abacus here? Cause right now I'm willing to give Abacus a bit of a break because coming back from not having access to the game for awhile can be overwhelming.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:29:01 PM
#42:


red13n posted...
Are we talking death or are we talking abacus here? Cause right now I'm willing to give Abacus a bit of a break because coming back from not having access to the game for awhile can be overwhelming.
I agree on giving him a bit of a break for game consideration's sake. There's a timer on that, obviously, but it's not a dick move.

What i don't like is that death suggested we wait until he gets replaced, which doesn't really have a timer associated with it and grants abacus more of a free reign.

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Peace___Frog
04/03/23 4:30:22 PM
#43:


ViolentAbacus posted...
Wallz I still feel is the best bet out of the vanillas, partially because of his "IDK what's going on" posts which had a lot of words, but nothing in them. Also the initial believing in a potential vig shot immediately early in the day feels off. That would not be my first guess, personally.
You're saying that wallz as scum would guess vig because he would know they didn't send in the shot?

Yeah that would check out.

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wallmasterz
04/03/23 4:31:11 PM
#44:


ViolentAbacus posted...
My internet came back around ~1ish.

Obviously I am against my vote. But, I would accept my mislynch over other peoples.

Lea, why are you focused on me and not HB? I understand we both lack content, but you seem oddly focused. Is it just because I backed off Ulti yesterday?

I also don't like Kirby's "Better than nothing".

Wallz I still feel is the best bet out of the vanillas, partially because of his "IDK what's going on" posts which had a lot of words, but nothing in them. Also the initial believing in a potential vig shot immediately early in the day feels off. That would not be my first guess, personally.

Also, back to Wallz, people backed off of Plum because he is uncountered and Corrik has yet to give a great reason to get back on him except... He is certain that there isn't a doctor. No reasoning why.

Well I think this is a little bit convenient for you to say now while Im the lynch leader and considering voting for you. But Abacus, will you at least either pick up your pace with voting or replace out if you arent the lynch?


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red13n
04/03/23 4:31:28 PM
#45:


I think I'm willing to bank pretty hard that an Abacus/Death scumteam would be out of the question based on this convo though. I don't think death sticks his neck out like that for it.

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wallmasterz
04/03/23 4:31:46 PM
#46:


*posting, not voting

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red13n
04/03/23 4:32:16 PM
#47:


Whoa now. We should not being in the business of telling people to replace out.

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:33:29 PM
#48:


Peace___Frog posted...

I agree on giving him a bit of a break for game consideration's sake. There's a timer on that, obviously, but it's not a dick move.

What i don't like is that death suggested we wait until he gets replaced, which doesn't really have a timer associated with it and grants abacus more of a free reign.


I was just under the misapprehension that Abacus had not gotten his internet back yet and did not want to lynch someone before they could even post is all.
Its all moot now anyway.

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htaeD
04/03/23 4:34:21 PM
#49:


Hold on, I was not saying Abacus should be replaced.

I was saying that Abacus himself said that he might need to be replaced if his internet didnt come back

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ViolentAbacus
04/03/23 4:35:02 PM
#50:


htaeD posted...
Hold on, I was not saying Abacus should be replaced.

I was saying that Abacus himself said that he might need to be replaced if his internet didnt come back

Red was referring to this

wallmasterz posted...
Well I think this is a little bit convenient for you to say now while Im the lynch leader and considering voting for you. But Abacus, will you at least either pick up your pace with voting or replace out if you arent the lynch?


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