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First route anyway. I did Frederikas route first. God damn that ending :(((

so now I guess I have 3 other routes to do. I played this on normal and it was a good challenge, but Im not sure if I should just lower the difficulty to speed through the remaining routes.

How do I proceed from here? I think Ill restart from the beginning and just google whatever choices I need to get onto the true route, make a save on the route split, and then use that just complete the rest of the routes. Was gonna do Rolands -> Benedicts -> True

You should probably be playing Ryza 3 right now

I havent played all the other atelier games yet

On PC or Switch?

Live in the moment, just think about it. You could play the contemporary game first and then be done with that and then go back to the old stuff.

wackyteen posted...

On PC or Switch?

PC

I'd definitely say lower the difficulty for the other routes if it's just for the story.

Supersex420 posted...

Live in the moment, just think about it. You could play the contemporary game first and then be done with that and then go back to the old stuff.

What about the stories and references tho

Kloe_Rinz posted...

PC

KB+M worth anything or just play with a controller?

Oh, and there are 4 routes in total. 3 main ones and a golden one that requires very specific path choices.

remandramdoll posted...

I'd definitely say lower the difficulty for the other routes if it's just for the story.

my main motivation at this point is almost entirely just the story, and also to see some other paths. I.e. I chose to raid glenbrook, blow up the ship and kill Cordelia but Id want to see what happens if you fight on the bridge or flood the city instead.

but the difficulty does make the climatic battles far more hype. I might just play it on easy until Im near the end again and then raise it back to normal

wackyteen posted...

KB+M worth anything or just play with a controller?

I used a KB+M and it sucked. It didnt register all the mouse movements and when I clicked tiles sometimes it didnt click where the mouse was and instead clicked what was selected. Moving the mouse didnt always select new tiles or aim your units in the right direction when ending turns etc.

I just ignored all that though. Once you get used to it, its workable

remandramdoll posted...

Oh, and there are 4 routes in total. 3 main ones and a golden one that requires very specific path choices.

Yeah, I think Ill do the golden route up until the point where the routes split, and then that will be my final save to see the other 3 endings.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/3/AAfAHXAAEU2L.jpg

Roland didn't go back home >.>

fuck -_-

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/5/AAfAHXAAEU2N.jpg

gonna struggle with the other routes even on normal difficulty now lol

although i doubt theres a more difficult map than Lyla in ministry of medicine or whatever.

sorry for the sixfold post

do convictions actually matter to get onto the golden route, or is the only thing that matters is the handful of choices along the way (dont use fire traps, reveal roland to svarog, go see serenoas dad)

Kloe_Rinz posted...

fuck -_-

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/5/AAfAHXAAEU2N.jpg

gonna struggle with the other routes even on normal difficulty now lol

although i doubt theres a more difficult map than Lyla in ministry of medicine or whatever.

The last 5 mock battles are hard as shit way harder than anything in the story.

Except for the very first battle on the hardest difficulty in NG++ which is the hardest fight in the game and people have written extensively about how to beat it.

Tyranthraxus posted...

The last 5 mock battles are hard as shit way harder than anything in the story.

Except for the very first battle on the hardest difficulty in NG++ which is the hardest fight in the game and people have written extensively about how to beat it.

Lyla has the most OP move in the game. That AOE Stop that can't be cured. I had to huddle against the back wall for like 10 turns to try and pick off enemy units without entering her aggro range otherwise she would just obliterate my frontline. The only other thing as difficult as that was the fight against Avlora just because shes a one woman army

Also this music is such a banger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zfV_V3rjZ4

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Lyla has the most OP move in the game. That AOE Stop that can't be cured. I had to huddle against the back wall for like 10 turns to try and pick off enemy units without entering her aggro range otherwise she would just obliterate my frontline. The only other thing as difficult as that was the fight against Avlora just because shes a one woman army

Lyla's stop gimmick got nothing on Trish shooting normal arrows at you on NG++ hard.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Lyla's stop gimmick got nothing on Trish shooting normal arrows at you on NG++ hard.

already beat the NG+ trish on very easy :)

Kloe_Rinz posted...

already beat the NG+ trish on very easy :)

Very Easy don't count.

NG+ hard Trish is hard but doable with determination.

NG++ hard is like Trish becomes equipped with a tactical nuke bow while using the speedforce.

i beat her on NG Hard if that counts

Kloe_Rinz posted...

i beat her on NG Hard if that counts

Nope. The fight is way overtuned on the higher levels that you get from NG+ and NG++. It's really something you have to experience for yourself. Even if you don't want to play NG++ you should at least start the game on NG++ hard just to see the utter bullshit that is the first battle.

I'm not even any good at strategy games so I've got no hope in this game on hard mode. Honestly beating this one on normal is probably my crowning achievement in the genre. My other feats: Beating XCOM2 on the easiest difficulty, and beating fire emblem three houses (one route) on hard with no deaths. This game on normal was a bit tougher than both of those

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I'm not even any good at strategy games so I've got no hope in this game on hard mode. Honestly beating this one on normal is probably my crowning achievement in the genre. My other feats: Beating XCOM2 on the easiest difficulty, and beating fire emblem three houses (one route) on hard with no deaths. This game on normal was a bit tougher than both of those

So basically what happens in NG++ is Roland spawns next to Trish and gets one shot, then Trish moves on to systemically eliminate the rest of your party one at a time.

If you look up people on the TS board asking for advice on how to beat the battle there's lengthy guides and videos about how to exploit the AI so that Trish just walks back and forth forever because that's the only way to win.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I'm not even any good at strategy games so I've got no hope in this game on hard mode. Honestly beating this one on normal is probably my crowning achievement in the genre. My other feats: Beating XCOM2 on the easiest difficulty, and beating fire emblem three houses (one route) on hard with no deaths. This game on normal was a bit tougher than both of those

Grats regardless. This game isn't particularly hard in the grand scheme of the genre, but it's still definitely on the upper half in terms of difficulty.

And, frankly, when I went through on my second playthroughs I stuck with hard for a bit, but then just switched it to easy to beat the stages I had already done. It takes waaaay too long to beat the game a second/third/fourth time if you have every stage be full difficulty. You might just go with that, and switch it back to Normal/Hard (whichever you want to go with) when you get to stages that you didn't already beat.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Lyla's stop gimmick got nothing on Trish shooting normal arrows at you on NG++ hard.

Even on NG+ Hard, this fight is pretty much completely unwinnable if both of the bandits actually attack you instead of being manipulated to waste half a dozen turns or more derping around chasing someone.

Tyranthraxus posted...

So basically what happens in NG++ is Roland spawns next to Trish and gets one shot, then Trish moves on to systemically eliminate the rest of your party one at a time.

If you look up people on the TS board asking for advice on how to beat the battle there's lengthy guides and videos about how to exploit the AI so that Trish just walks back and forth forever because that's the only way to win.

Wow. Such strategy.

Is there an actual intended strategy by the devs that doesn't involve exploiting the AI? Or were they just lazy and cranked stats?

wackyteen posted...

Wow. Such strategy.

Is there an actual intended strategy by the devs that doesn't involve exploiting the AI? Or were they just lazy and cranked stats?

It's just that one level. Clearly they didn't QA it enough. They said "eh we can stomp this shit on normal it's good enough"

Kloe_Rinz posted...

sorry for the sixfold post

do convictions actually matter to get onto the golden route, or is the only thing that matters is the handful of choices along the way (dont use fire traps, reveal roland to svarog, go see serenoas dad)

Convictions are good the game determines who you can convince during the scales decisions. So yes, it matters in the sense that if certain conviction stats aren't high enough, you might not get enough people to agree with you.