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OudeGeuze
03/24/23 11:05:21 AM
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So tell me why they are gentle giants and shouldn't be illegal?
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lww99
03/24/23 11:05:56 AM
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Because they didnt choose that life?


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Giant_Aspirin
03/24/23 11:07:25 AM
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"this hunting dog is really good at hunting because it was bred for that over hundreds of generations"
"this herding dog is really good at herding because it was bred for that over hundreds of generations"
"i have no idea why my perfectly innocent pitbull viciously attacked"

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A_Good_Boy
03/24/23 11:08:23 AM
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If they were bred specifically for fighting dogs then that means they would have an unusually high aggression towards other dogs, not humans, since nobody is going to go out of their way to create a breed of dog that's impossible to control.

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Questionmarktarius
03/24/23 11:09:08 AM
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point of order: dogfighting hasn't always been illegal
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OudeGeuze
03/24/23 11:10:13 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
point of order: dogfighting hasn't always been illegal
Average Randian response
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Giant_Aspirin
03/24/23 11:12:29 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
If they were bred specifically for fighting dogs then that means they would have an unusually high aggression towards other dogs, not humans

aggression is aggression. if you examine data about dog attacks on humans, pitbulls are overwhelmingly more dangerous than all other dog breeds combined.

can any dog snap? sure. but the problem with pitbulls is that when they snap, they cause excessive amounts of damage because thats literally what they were designed to do.

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A_Good_Boy
03/24/23 11:18:39 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
aggression is aggression. if you examine data about dog attacks on humans, pitbulls are overwhelmingly more dangerous than all other dog breeds combined.

can any dog snap? sure. but the problem with pitbulls is that when they snap, they cause excessive amounts of damage because thats literally what they were designed to do.
Pitbulls encompass multiple dog breeds that are all extremely popular and their mixes are everywhere as well. Are pitbulls overwhelmingly represented in dog breed stats because they're overwhelmingly aggressive or is it because pitbulls and their mixed breeds are overwhelmingly represented in the dog population in general?

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itachi15243
03/24/23 11:24:57 AM
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I googled some statistics to agree here, but apparently pitbulls make up for about 20% of dog bites, and also around 20% of dogs.

Now I'm not sure if there are just way too many pitbulls in this country. Also, statistics are all over the place. Either way, I would be okay with something like harsher laws around pitbull owners for if their pitbull attacks or something.

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Questionmarktarius
03/24/23 11:26:11 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
Either way, I would be okay with something like harsher laws around pitbull owners for if there pitbull attacks or something.
what, dog insurance?

...that's not a bad idea, actually.
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voldothegr8
03/24/23 11:26:23 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AADdfsAAENj8.jpg

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Giant_Aspirin
03/24/23 11:27:11 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Are pitbulls overwhelmingly represented in dog breed stats because they're overwhelmingly aggressive

that and they've literally been designed over generations to be as efficient at killing and maiming as possible. their jaw grip strength alone far surpasses any other breed.

according to this, pitbulls make up ~20% of "mixed breeds" in the US

https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

but make up 65% of fatal attacks on humans (more than all others combined)

https://www.mkplawgroup.com/dog-bite-statistics/

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itachi15243
03/24/23 11:32:38 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
what, dog insurance?

...that's not a bad idea, actually.

Not literally. More like a natural progression of laws to try and at the least, deter pit ownership. I wouldn't be opposed to dog insurance though.

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Giant_Aspirin
03/24/23 11:35:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ZGEvUwSMg

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Mew
03/24/23 11:39:11 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ZGEvUwSMg
Total mystery for sure

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KarsaToblakai
03/24/23 11:40:38 AM
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Because human aggression was bred out of them.

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