Current Events > Last of Us Episode 9 Topic - Season Finale

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If Joel knew that Ellie knew and went through with it, he probably wouldn't have gone on that killing spree to rescue her.

Pure story, I don't see why it'd be 2 seasons. TLOU2 has a lot more gameplay segments than 1. I spent so much damn time looting around houses and junk, especially in the open areas. Story is pretty straightforward still, and I'd argue the second half with Abby was underdeveloped, even.

With the Joel choice, even if Ellie was outright asked (she would've said yes, yes), she's a little kid with survivor's guilt and depression. Humanity will adapt and survive with the fungus, as has been shown in the games anyway, killing a kid for a chance is totally messed up.

I don't believe that at all.

He knows what she would have wanted. It's why he lied to her.

The second half is vastly superior and way more complicated than Ellie's half.

I can't speak on the episode as I'm waiting to watch it with my mother on Thursday, but everyone Joel kills in the hospital segment of the game is either a soldier hunting him or Jerry. Some of these posts read like Joel brutally murdered the receptionist and a dozen patients on his way to Ellie. Is that what happened in this episode?

Possibly, but I dunno if he would've risked such a stunt and have her hate him if she fully knew what they were gonna do to her. (I know she eventually figures out and has a fight with him over it but still. Decisions made in the heat of the moment.)

Crazy finale. Liked the ending. As someone who didnt play the game I found it enjoyable.

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I wouldn't say it does or doesn't justify it. I don't know if he says something similar in the show but in the game Joel's simple reason is if he left them/Marlene alive, they'd just go right back to trying to get Ellie. I believe he's right--the Fireflies believe in the chance of that cure, believe that their choice was the right one, and they wouldn't sit back and go back to ignoring the fact that Ellie is out there chilling. For me who thinks killing her is wrong on a personal and moral level, I don't blame him for being thorough.

Nah, all the people he killed were soldiers and a single doctor. It's just the show kinda frames it in a slightly distorted way to drive home that maybe he's not making the best decision. I find it hard to describe.

Exactly It's all a big ask.
If, they can figure out exactly why she's ok
If, they can reproduce it into a cure / vaccine
If, they can widely distribute it
If, they can manage to get people to take it

Fuck that, people ego think Joel was wrong are taking a tenth of a tenth of a percent in the absolute best case scenario instead of the more likely scenario of them just killing Ellie on the operating room table with nothing to show for it

Pure story, I don't see why it'd be 2 seasons. TLOU2 has a lot more gameplay segments than 1. I spent so much damn time looting around houses and junk, especially in the open areas. Story is pretty straightforward still, and I'd argue the second half with Abby was underdeveloped, even.

With the Joel choice, even if Ellie was outright asked (she would've said yes, yes), she's a little kid with survivor's guilt and depression. Humanity will adapt and survive with the fungus, as has been shown in the games anyway, killing a kid for a chance is totally messed up.

I can't speak on the episode as I'm waiting to watch it with my mother on Thursday, but everyone Joel kills in the hospital segment of the game is either a soldier hunting him or Jerry. Some of these posts read like Joel brutally murdered the receptionist and a dozen patients on his way to Ellie. Is that what happened in this episode?

They could greatly expand on the Scars in following seasons. The prophet in particular, they went as far to give her a face so clearly theres a story to tell there if given the time. I mean Frank got time to shine despite being nothing but a name and Hawaiian shirt in the first season, surely they can give the prophet an episode if he got one.

Ellie would sacrifice herself for sure. But it's not really a fair question to ask of a young teenage girl regardless.

Joel has already lost a daughter for the 'greater good' and has found a new purpose for his life with Ellie. He isn't going to let anyone hurt her without a fight. She means the world to him and he isn't going to give that up.

The Fireflies are desperate and aren't going to give up an opportunity that may never come up again.

It's a shitty situation and everyone is doing what they think is the right thing. Nobody is right. Nobody is wrong. There's no secret loophole that makes someone justified or correct. That's the dilemma. Everyone is justified from their own perspective. The sequel is also entirely about this although with the central theme being hate instead of love.

Wait, that was the season finale?

So nothing for next week?

I was looking forward to the next episode. :/

Probably two years until season two yeah?

Did anyone else notice someone with a backpack running away from from Joel in the hallway and got away? Was that supposed to be a certain someone in the next season?

I think so. It looked like her braid was bouncing as she was running. Theres a slow close-up of Joel turning the corner right before she runs away and I expect well see that shot in a flashback when she recognizes him.

How are you doing spoiler tags? I used to just write spoilers, but it stopped working so I just avoided spoilers.

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Tbf there's absolutely no reason to believe that the fireflies could even produce and distribute a cure widely enough to change the trajectory of the virus. They probably wouldn't have even made it a few more weeks if one dude could take out all their goons lol imo its bad writing, the game so desperately wants you to think Joel is wrong for what he did but there's an almost 100% chance Ellie's death would be in vain.

In the game it's closer to what you describe and there were a bunch of others that the doctors killed getting research data from their brains

Laura Baileys cameo as Abby was nice, if that was her.

Nah, it wasn't Abby. Laura doesn't look her age, but I think they'd be hard-pressed to turn a woman in her early forties into a twenty-year-old.

Wish Ellie was played by a different actress. Man, the series would have been so much better

Bella Ramsey was flawless as Ellie.

She literally told him the truth though.