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SilvosForever
03/06/23 9:24:20 AM
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I just read a thread where someone was complaining how Link to the Past was too difficult and that all the bosses were damage sponges that they tried to stat-check and lost against.

There are no words. I imagine they drank from a sippy cup until they were 8 years old.

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Solar_Crimson
03/06/23 9:26:27 AM
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It's not that unbelievable that people would have a harder time with games that they didn't grow up playing, if they are accustomed to the QoL improvements that gaming in general has seen since then.

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wackyteen
03/06/23 9:28:39 AM
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I had problems with bosses when I was younger in games I can stomp now.

If I played those same games fresh (no experience) today, I'd probably have some issues. Especially if it's a gameplay style I'm not super familiar with.

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Malenia
03/06/23 9:28:55 AM
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Skill issue
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Jokeaccountinc
03/06/23 9:30:31 AM
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Super Mario 64 controls aged badly bro

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Solid_Sonic
03/06/23 9:30:34 AM
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>not drinking your cafe macchiato with caramel out of a Donald Duck sippy cup

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MarthGoomba
03/06/23 9:30:34 AM
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Because they grew up on no-skill baby shit like Fortnite

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ViewtifulJoe
03/06/23 9:35:47 AM
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Years of conditioning. Games are easy now, paying for progress is an option.
A lot of games are just a generic walk through cinematics until the end.
There's less of a troubleshooting process when they get stuck and more abject helplessness.

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Raikuro
03/06/23 9:42:44 AM
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The real problem is instead of just researching a solution and moving on, the first instinct is to take a pic/vid and write a dissertation on it for attention
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Turbam
03/06/23 9:44:27 AM
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Damn man, you sound like a boomer complaining about millennials

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Southernfatman
03/06/23 9:45:09 AM
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Turbam posted...
Damn man, you sound like a boomer complaining about millennials

This. I wish folks wouldn't perpetuate this kind of stuff.

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AldousIsDead
03/06/23 9:45:24 AM
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And yet the amount of whining in this topic...

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krazychao5
03/06/23 9:47:46 AM
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old games are difficult, man

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Ratchetrockon
03/06/23 9:51:13 AM
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i realized from playing older adventure games that they used to be more obtuse. like moon logic BS.

id say the best example i can think of is the rubber ducky part of The Longest Journey. It involves combining a rubber ducky with a vice so you can pick up a certain object stuck on some electric rail.

of course, you have to first obtain the rubber ducky by feeding some birds a piece of bread that you obtain at a club. to feed the birds you have to click on the bread and click on a rubber ducky on a river. the birds will swoop in and move a grill on a river and you can grab the grill by pulling some chains. you won't immediately get the rubber ducky tho. the birds moving the debris combined with dropping something else (i think a clothesline?) causes the rubber ducky to flow over to some drain in another map or area which you have to pick up. pretty well hidden too and i only found it by clicking on literally everything in the screen across several different areas (at this point of the game there are like a dozen accessible areas >.<)

i first thought the rubber ducky (which you actually do see briefly flowing across the river after removing the debris) was just there for laughs or something. did not realize i had to combine it with a vice till i started to combine everything in my inventory.

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Darkfire12
03/06/23 9:56:08 AM
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Have you ever met someone from gen Z

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Garioshi
03/06/23 9:59:21 AM
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I beat MGS2 on European Extrene, no radar, game over if spotted.

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dave_is_slick
03/06/23 10:02:10 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
It's not that unbelievable that people would have a harder time with games that they didn't grow up playing, if they are accustomed to the QoL improvements that gaming in general has seen since then.
That has always been a weak excuse to me. I've never assumed a game would play a certain way because others played the same.

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Trelve
03/06/23 10:11:48 AM
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Zoomers are the first generation with less tech literacy than the one before.
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EightySixTwoTwo
03/06/23 10:14:58 AM
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Darkfire12 posted...
Have you ever met someone from gen Z

Probably not.

Comically enough, it was millennials that started the trend of complaining about Dark Souls difficulty and dumbing down franchises for a more casual market. It was also millennials who gave rise to the popularity of hand-holding and walking sims in gaming. Gen Z are only following up on that attitude set by their predecessors.
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rexcrk
03/06/23 10:21:05 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
It's not that unbelievable that people would have a harder time with games that they didn't grow up playing, if they are accustomed to the QoL improvements that gaming in general has seen since then.


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Solid_Sonic
03/06/23 10:23:47 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
This. I wish folks wouldn't perpetuate this kind of stuff.

Complaining about the next generation is immemorial. There is no way to break the cycle.

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EmbraceOfDeath
03/06/23 10:26:40 AM
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EightySixTwoTwo posted...
Probably not.

Comically enough, it was millennials that started the trend of complaining about Dark Souls difficulty and dumbing down franchises for a more casual market. It was also millennials who gave rise to the popularity of hand-holding and walking sims in gaming. Gen Z are only following up on that attitude set by their predecessors.
It was also millennials who were opposed to those things.

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LordFarquad1312
03/06/23 10:35:24 AM
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Nah dawg. Couple of my students beat Elden Ring like 5 times a month from release.

Though they might be pandemials, not zoomers.

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Gwynevere
03/06/23 10:42:10 AM
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If you think this is a zoomer thing, you were clearly never in FPS lobbies in the late 2000s where people didn't die because you were better than them, it was always their controller, their team, you're camping, hacking, etc.

People from all generations have problems admitting they have skill issues

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Ratchetrockon
03/06/23 10:42:34 AM
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also aint gen z into those games where you have to repeat it if you die. i forgot genre name lmao

they are generally 2d sidescrollers with an emphasis on crafting shit. also they seem to require guides to even be somewhat competent. pretty sure a huge chunk of that community are gen z based on steam discussion posts.

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Tsukasa1891
03/06/23 10:44:49 AM
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Because devs have been dumbing games down for the past twenty years to the point where some games play it's self and the player is in no danger of ever losing.

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Fluttershy
03/06/23 10:47:18 AM
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my favorite is they see a glass tube in super metroid and it doesn't immediately click with them to try to destroy it

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Hayame_Zero
03/06/23 10:48:38 AM
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Fluttershy posted...
my favorite is they see a glass tube in super metroid and it doesn't immediately click with them to try to destroy it
I mean, I didn't know that either.

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Fluttershy
03/06/23 10:55:44 AM
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I mean, I didn't know that either.

so i guess i may have had a sense of 'if it's here, there's a reason', because one of the first games i ever beat was simon's quest and that game had some shit going.

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Hayame_Zero
03/06/23 10:58:46 AM
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What? LttP is piss easy. Most of the bosses take like 1 minute to beat.

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EightySixTwoTwo
03/06/23 11:59:04 AM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
It was also millennials who were opposed to those things.

The sales figures don't lie; millenials are indeed responsible for the dumbed down games, the success of hand-holding mechanics and whatnot. Money talks louder than words. Zoomers didn't create that atmosphere; they just arrived into it.
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VampireCoyote
03/06/23 12:01:48 PM
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Wow someone bitching about the younger generation must be the first time someone felt this way

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Background_Guy
03/06/23 12:05:46 PM
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Jokeaccountinc posted...
Super Mario 64 controls aged badly bro
But as a contrast, zoomers grew up playing SM64DS without issues while older generations are incapable of figuring out the controls to that game
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NightRender
03/06/23 12:12:13 PM
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It's me. I was the 7 year old who could never beat Blind and got my teenage cousin to do it.

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Jokeaccountinc
03/06/23 12:14:58 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
But as a contrast, zoomers grew up playing SM64DS without issues while older generations are incapable of figuring out the controls to that game
No one played that either lol. Now, Galaxy and Odyssey, those are Premium.

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Jiek_Fafn
03/06/23 12:41:07 PM
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Isn't it past your bedtime, old man?

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xlr_big-coop
03/06/23 12:54:36 PM
#39:


ViewtifulJoe posted...
Years of conditioning. Games are easy now, paying for progress is an option.
A lot of games are just a generic walk through cinematics until the end.
This. Studios want to make sure players encounter as few obstacles to retain gamers.

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Hayame_Zero
03/06/23 12:55:55 PM
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I've never considered age as a factor for being good at a game or not. I've seen streams of some early 20-year-olds who are way better at some NES games than I am.

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thronedfire2
03/06/23 12:57:14 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
If you think this is a zoomer thing, you were clearly never in FPS lobbies in the late 2000s where people didn't die because you were better than them, it was always their controller, their team, you're camping, hacking, etc.

People from all generations have problems admitting they have skill issues

if I die its lag, if you die its cause of my mad skillz


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DeathVelvien
03/06/23 1:00:31 PM
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I would definitely say the Oracle games are harder than LttP myself

Otherwise accurate though, Zelda isn't exactly a difficult franchise

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