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Ruvan22
03/05/23 12:02:41 AM
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agoat posted...
apparently he's whining that it got leaked now

Leaked.. like his public speech?
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Heineken14
03/05/23 12:16:44 AM
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agoat posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/1/AAfa0DAAEPl5.jpg
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Lol, right wing whiny **** hating that people are disgusted with his wanna be genocide.

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legendary_zell
03/05/23 1:06:27 AM
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Conservatives always seem to be wrong about what their advocates, spokespeople and representatives will do. When liberals and leftists make accurate statements or predictions about what their guys want to do and are doing, they claim the people pointing this out are hysterical. Then when it happens, they are either silent or cape for it and act like it was always justified. We see it with cutting social programs, we saw it with Roe v. Wade, now we're seeing it again.

For those of you who claim you don't actually want this, why support a party that does and why do you never adjust your worldview when you're consistently wrong about what people under your banner actually want to do?

It's almost like you're just trying to avoid the heat that comes from owning your abhorrent beliefs and what the people you empower will do...If that's not the case, then jump of off this ship or you will be considered just as much of a Nazi as this guy. That's all I can tell you at this point.

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ScazarMeltex
03/05/23 8:33:10 AM
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agoat posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/1/AAfa0DAAEPl5.jpg
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At least we aren't to the point in the genocide where the guy goes "yeah, I fucking said that, and I meant it".

But we aren't far. Arm and organize with your community for mutual aid and defense while you can.

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littlebro07
03/05/23 9:06:13 AM
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The people denying it are also nazis. Literally every single one of them.

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Gwynevere
03/05/23 9:15:23 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
But we aren't far. Arm and organize with your community for mutual aid and defense while you can.
This is one of the most important things you can do. Organize with other people, and get trained in defending yourself. Last thing you want is to be on the receiving end of someone who got a bit too bold off this rhetoric.

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lennethsoki
03/05/23 9:48:35 AM
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Probably because since the trans community is so small, few IRL know or even care. And because few know or even care, statements like this dont get out to the public because even they know few know or even care.

Its like how someone as world-renowned as JK Rowlings statements arent known becausewait for itfew know or even care. Extremely few people looked at Hogwarts Legacy and thought Trans comments? Hell no/yeah, I wont buy/will buy this for that alone! No, they thought, Oh neat, a Harry Potter game.

The worlds a lot bigger than just a small area of the Internet that most arent even gonna see. No amount of middle-aged users on a dying video game forum are gonna change that.
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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 9:52:24 AM
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its weird because he says all that based on the premise that transgenderism is false but its not false? I assume a small subset of people within the trans community are just mentally ill people who arent actually experiencing gender dysphoria but for the rest of them its a very real thing

which in turn invalidates basically his whole speech
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emblem-man
03/05/23 10:11:57 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
At least we aren't to the point in the genocide where the guy goes "yeah, I fucking said that, and I meant it".

But we aren't far. Arm and organize with your community for mutual aid and defense while you can.

They're trying to say that they are talking about the ideology of transgenderism and not transgender people. And like, even if you were to be incredibly charitable to them (and this guy does NOT deserve that charity), it's still a horrid statement.

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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 10:15:31 AM
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emblem-man posted...
They're trying to say that they are talking about the ideology of transgenderism and not transgender people. And like, even if you were to be incredibly charitable to them (and this guy does NOT deserve that charity), it's still a horrid statement.
I agree with this, I also think he genuinely means eradicating transgenderism and not actually calling for a genocide, but what hes suggesting is still not even the realm of whats possible, its analogous to wanting to cure gay people of their homosexuality, a fruitless endeavor
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Ruvan22
03/05/23 10:20:10 AM
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agoat posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/1/AAfa0DAAEPl5.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/2/AAfa0DAAEPl6.jpg

I'm missing something.. what is he trying to argue is the difference between what he said and what was printed?
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ScazarMeltex
03/05/23 10:20:13 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
I agree with this, I also think he genuinely means eradicating transgenderism and not actually calling for a genocide, but what hes suggesting is still not even the realm of whats possible, its analogous to wanting to cure gay people of their homosexuality, a fruitless endeavor
Bullshit. Transgenderism isn't an ideology. Do not give them any benefit of any doubt. Conservatives are literally never speaking or acting in good faith. This is merely an attempt to try and mitigate the blowback from saying exactly what they want in front of a populace that hasn't been primed enough to hear it yet. This is the guy who siad that you can't commit a genocide against transpeople because they aren't a legitimate category of people. Which in and of itself is genocidal language.

When that crowd cheered, they were cheering for the idea of killing transpeople.

I refer you back to Charlie Kirk's audience cheering for a guy when he asked Kirk when they were finally going to get to use their guns on the dems.

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Antifar
03/05/23 10:20:30 AM
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https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1632254741077020674

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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 10:23:41 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Bullshit. Transgenderism isn't an ideology. Do not give them any benefit of any doubt. Conservatives are literally never speaking or acting in good faith. This is merely an attempt to try and mitigate the blowback from saying exactly what they want in front of a populace that hasn't been primed enough to hear it yet. When that crowd cheered, they were cheering for the idea of killing transpeople.

I refer you back to Charlie Kirk's audience cheering for a guy when he asked Kirk when they were finally going to get to use their guns on the dems.
so you legit think they want to literally murder the entire transgender community? ALL the conservatives?
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Gamespoht
03/05/23 10:25:06 AM
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They certainly don't want em to exist or be public

Caitlyn Jenner even agrees with this bullshit despite being on the side of those who hate her identity

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CyricZ
03/05/23 10:26:09 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
so you legit think they want to literally murder the entire transgender community? ALL the conservatives?
It's getting to the point where counting an exact number is a pointless exercise.

Enough of them want to, and enough of them don't seem to care if it happens.

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emblem-man
03/05/23 10:28:09 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
I'm missing something.. what is he trying to argue is the difference between what he said and what was printed?


emblem-man posted...
They're trying to say that they are talking about the ideology of transgenderism and not transgender people. And like, even if you were to be incredibly charitable to them (and this guy does NOT deserve that charity), it's still a horrid statement.

It's like trying to say, "I want to get rid of Judaism not Jewish people" it's a stupid statement and distinction

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SenlinRescinds
03/05/23 10:30:14 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
so you legit think they want to literally murder the entire transgender community? ALL the conservatives?
It doesn't matter. If they're voting conservative they're supporting genocide.

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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 10:32:01 AM
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CyricZ posted...
It's getting to the point where counting an exact number is a pointless exercise.

Enough of them want to, and enough of them don't seem to care if it happens.
I understand what you mean and watching the clip my first thought was literally but transgenderism isnt false though I feel like its really just the whole we want to cure you of your gayness all over again, which is why I dont feel like the message calls for GENOCIDE, it calls for something fucking stupid but its not literally genocide you know
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ScazarMeltex
03/05/23 10:33:28 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
so you legit think they want to literally murder the entire transgender community? ALL the conservatives?
Look dude, I'm not playing this game with you. Every single person who votes for the GOP is supporting this rhetoric by voting for them. Even if all you really care about is a tax cut, when you vote for the GOP you are saying that you view the desire for a tax cut as being of higher importance than transgender people being allowed to exist. So they at worst in favor of it and at best indifferent to it. Indifference in oppression always benefits the oppressor never the oppressed.

As I said in my edit above, the person speaking at CPAC here is the same guy who said a few days back that you can't commit a genocide against trans people because they aren't a legitimate category of being. Which in and of itself is genocidal language.

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Ruvan22
03/05/23 10:35:04 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
its weird because he says all that based on the premise that transgenderism is false but its not false? I assume a small subset of people within the trans community are just mentally ill people who arent actually experiencing gender dysphoria but for the rest of them its a very real thing

which in turn invalidates basically his whole speech

What percentage is that subset?
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wackyteen
03/05/23 10:37:14 AM
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This is Genocide. This is Genocide.

Genocide. Genocide. Genocide. Genocide.

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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 10:38:39 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
What percentage is that subset?
hell if I know, probably pretty small, Im guessing it has increased the past few years though but still likely sub 1%, really though I have no idea
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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 10:38:58 AM
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we should eradicate the Republican Party
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Antifar
03/05/23 10:40:59 AM
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It's important to not let nuance obscure the truth

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legendary_zell
03/05/23 10:42:57 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-anti-trans-bill-court-custody-kids-gender-affirming-care-2023-3

They're saying the quite part out loud now and authorizing the kidnapping of children for getting medical treatment.

They're going further than they did for gay people, they want trans people equated with either child abuse or pedophilia. What do you think is going to happen to such people? How many social protections do we give pedophiles?

And yet some of you are STILL playing semantics. You wonder how people allowed past genocides to happen? YOU are how they were allowed to happen.

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ROOTFayth
03/05/23 10:43:44 AM
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Antifar posted...
It's important to not let nuance obscure the truth
fair point, that wasnt my intention but its true it may detract from the issue at hand
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SenlinRescinds
03/05/23 10:44:43 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-anti-trans-bill-court-custody-kids-gender-affirming-care-2023-3

They're saying the quite part out loud now and authorizing the kidnapping of children for getting medical treatment.

They're going further than they did for gay people, they want trans people equated with either child abuse or pedophilia. What do you think is going to happen to such people? How many social protections do we give pedophiles?

And yet some of you are STILL playing semantics. You wonder how people allowed past genocides to happen? YOU are how they were allowed to happen.
Some cop is going to try this and learn real quick you don't fuck with people's kids.

You know, assuming the parents let him live long enough to learn.

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SocialistGamer
03/05/23 10:49:36 AM
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https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1632168780628471813?s=21&t=qJgTQa07w2SVJPllWtbwgA
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ScazarMeltex
03/05/23 10:52:06 AM
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SenlinRescinds posted...
Some cop is going to try this and learn real quick you don't fuck with people's kids.

You know, assuming the parents let him live long enough to learn.
Any cop that attempts to enforce this is no different than someone who helped round up Jews or any of the other target of the Nazis, and deserves the same treatment.

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SenlinRescinds
03/05/23 10:57:34 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Any cop that attempts to enforce this is no different than someone who helped round up Jews or any of the other target of the Nazis, and deserves the same treatment.
Completely accurate.

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Ruvan22
03/05/23 11:10:16 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
hell if I know, probably pretty small, Im guessing it has increased the past few years though but still likely sub 1%, really though I have no idea

So if it is less than 1%, why do you mention it in your post? I think I'm not very clear on your point (as you said in post 86) - is it that his speech is vague?
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hockeybub89
03/05/23 11:46:43 AM
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"I don't want to kill trans people, just completely eliminate their ability to present as trans in our society because transgenderism is an invalid ideology"

Not a meaningful distinction for... literally anyone said elimination would affect.

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wackyteen
03/05/23 11:51:24 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"I don't want to kill trans people, just completely eliminate their ability to present as trans in our society because transgenderism is an invalid ideology"

Not a meaningful distinction for... literally anyone said elimination would affect.
"We don't want to kill The Gays. We just don't want to see The Gays in society because homosexuality is incompatible with our book"

If they're successful with trans people, they'll come for The Gays next.

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hockeybub89
03/05/23 11:52:42 AM
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wackyteen posted...
"We don't want to kill The Gays. We just don't want to see The Gays in society because homosexuality is incompatible with our book"

If they're successful with trans people, they'll come for The Gays next.
Well yeah. You still hear "Gay people can get straight married like everyone else"

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wackyteen
03/05/23 1:31:08 PM
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agoat posted...
Oh my brothers and sisters in christ why are the Dems allowing them to operate in the open like this
If Dems were more competent I'd say it's "don't interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake" but it's the Dems we're talking about so could just be incompetence as to why they allow it

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au_gold
03/05/23 2:01:14 PM
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Fuck Michael Knowles.

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