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cjsdowg 03/03/23 12:26:29 PM #1: |
DC made their own Crime Bill since Biden Failed to do so. And Republicans tried to stop it. Biden could Veto Republicans. But once more he sides with Republican. And at the same time taking the voice of many black voters away. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1631702485613047811 --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JasonSehorn 03/03/23 12:28:21 PM #2: |
guess we shoulda voted for Trump then huh fuck outta here dude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 03/03/23 12:29:54 PM #3: |
JasonSehorn posted... guess we shoulda voted for Trump then huh fuck outta here dudeWhose alt --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 03/03/23 12:30:20 PM #4: |
JasonSehorn posted... guess we shoulda voted for Trump then huh fuck outta here dudeShould have voted for someone other than Biden in the primary tbh --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 03/03/23 12:34:08 PM #6: |
Have other areas enacted similar bills? What would be the effects? --- "The civilized man, where he cannot admire, will aim rather at understanding than at reprobating." - Bertrand Russell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spiderman23J 03/03/23 12:42:15 PM #7: |
Politics is a joke --- buss on life ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 03/03/23 12:57:09 PM #8: |
Establishment Democrats are scum as well. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 03/03/23 12:59:54 PM #9: |
AloneIBreak posted... Have other areas enacted similar bills? What would be the effects?Other cities have gone through the long process of updating their legal code, the way DC has. What makes DC unique is that its laws can be invalidated by Congress. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/01/washington-dc-crime-reform-sentencing-fox-news.html --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 03/03/23 1:01:02 PM #10: |
Biden just watched Lightfoot get demolished in her reelection bid due to crime. I'm sure this decision of his has nothing to do with that. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 03/03/23 1:01:32 PM #11: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] DNC would take Trump over Bernie in a heartbeat. --- You're finally awake, welcome to the real world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 03/03/23 1:03:51 PM #12: |
Cheater87 posted... DNC would take Trump over Bernie in a heartbeat.Well yeah, they're conservative. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krojen 03/03/23 1:30:59 PM #13: |
Cheater87 posted... DNC would take Trump over Bernie in a heartbeat.After Bernie won Nevada we got a taste of what that'd look like. MSNBC started experimenting with "Democrats should sit this election out to get someone they actually like in 2024" --- http://i.imgur.com/hI4hAMb.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 03/03/23 1:32:47 PM #14: |
His VP is Kamala Harris. Didn't we all agree not to be surprised of his policies dating all the way back to the primaries? Come on people... --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/03/23 1:33:35 PM #15: |
Jagr_68 posted... His VP is Kamala Harris.Are people expressing surprise? --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 03/03/23 1:37:27 PM #18: |
Didn't he help author the 90's crime bill? This was expected. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/03/23 1:39:29 PM #19: |
Old racist wants to keep the law racist. big surprise there ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 03/03/23 1:40:48 PM #20: |
Antifar posted... Personally I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner but also there's certainly some outrage like he betrayed liberals and whatnot. It is what it is, his policies were the baggage we had to accept to prevent a Trump reelection. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/03/23 1:42:17 PM #21: |
Outrage is different from surprise. People were outraged by Trump's actions, for example, not because they were a betrayal or worse than expected, but because they were bad on their own merits. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agent_Stroud 03/03/23 1:42:32 PM #22: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/7/AAR6WtAAELnT.jpg --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/03/23 1:42:52 PM #23: |
Jagr_68 posted... Personally I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner but also there's certainly some outrage like he betrayed liberals and whatnot. It is what it is, his policies were the baggage we had to accept to prevent a Trump reelection.We really need to get over "at least he's less awful" elections. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQgY4aFUNvI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 03/03/23 1:50:05 PM #24: |
It's a mistake to concede the right wing framing about "tough on crime" here. The law changes proposed are a sideways move in terms of how punishments are dealt out, often making them harsher. What problems did the RCCA address? Where to start: One of the biggest issues is that the old code fails to identify the elements of countless offenses. These omissions force the D.C. Court of Appeals to fill in the blanks, creating ongoing uncertainty about what the law requires. Some offenses are, on the page, incredibly broad; a kidnapping statute that carries a 30-year maximum sentence, for instance, could encompass giving someone an unforeseen hug. Others are vague, like simple assaulta commonly charged offense whose elements are not defined in the current code. This confusion makes it more difficult to combat crime: Prosecutors are less likely to bring charges when they arent sure what theyll need to prove to secure a conviction. The RCCA ensures that each offense is defined so that courts, prosecutors, and defendants know what is (and what isnt) criminal conduct. But Fox News has fixated on it as some giveaway to criminals, so Biden follows suit. He's not being tough on crime, just trying to appease Fox News viewers who aren't going to vote for him anyways. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaldrenthebold 03/03/23 1:51:38 PM #25: |
Unfortunately crime was a big deal in this last election cycle so democrats are adjusting to be more tough on it. Whether that is smart or not I dunno. Probably stupid to cater. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 03/03/23 1:52:16 PM #26: |
Intro2Logic posted... It's a mistake to concede the right wing framing about "tough on crime" here. The law changes proposed are a sideways move in terms of how punishments are dealt out, often making them harsher. Yup. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 03/03/23 1:54:59 PM #27: |
Don't care. I'm aware Biden isn't going to do 100% of everything I want. I'm not like Rose Twitter, and going to pretend he's just as bad Trump. Biden has still pushed for many of great things. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/03/23 1:58:27 PM #28: |
asdf8562 posted... Don't care.It would be a mistake to say he's as bad as Trump. But I think you should care when politicians, even ones you support, do bad things. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/03/23 2:01:40 PM #29: |
Intro2Logic posted... It's a mistake to concede the right wing framing about "tough on crime" here."Tough on crime!" is a combination of the illusion that laws somehow magically prevent crime, a misguided conflation of "vengeance" and "justice", and a simple childish belief that everything would be nice if the bad people went away forever. Also there's more than a bit of racism in there most of the time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 03/03/23 2:18:06 PM #30: |
Some liberals just can't stop doing the "still better than Trump". We can't just recognize that the Democrats aren't as bad as Republicans. Apparently not supposed to criticize Dems either since they are better than the GOP. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 03/03/23 2:18:52 PM #31: |
Questionmarktarius posted... "Tough on crime!" is a combination of the illusion that laws somehow magically prevent crime, a misguided conflation of "vengeance" and "justice", and a simple childish belief that everything would be nice if the bad people went away forever.People rag on you, but sometimes you come through with a solid take. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 03/03/23 2:19:57 PM #32: |
Ye, that one is a solid take. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 03/03/23 2:21:05 PM #33: |
Kaldrenthebold posted... Unfortunately crime was a big deal in this last election cycle so democrats are adjusting to be more tough on it. Whether that is smart or not I dunno. Probably stupid to cater. It's an extremely delicate topic here in Philadelphia because over 50% of the population is black and they are most often victimized by gun violence, black on black crimes, etc while simultaneously subject to circumstances of profiling by police. So we have these big chunks of the city demanding both police reform and to also be tougher on crime so the city is safer for everyone. Being real here, it's such a mess to navigate due to lack of strict gun laws and lack of police accountability these lazy assholes in charge would rather just knock things out the "easy way" with tougher punishments to keep criminals in prison longer rather than act via true long term solutions like complete police reform and training. For dems, they shouldn't cater but they don't offer ANY solutions to the problems either so we're stuck with just whatever's on the table. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kolibri_X 03/03/23 2:32:17 PM #34: |
I guess the higher crime rate platform isn't as popular as it use to be --- Platinum GameFAQs Member ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 03/03/23 2:33:43 PM #35: |
Kolibri_X posted... I guess the higher crime rate platform isn't as popular as it use to beI think people have been lying to you about how popular a dumbass troll is. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/03/23 2:35:32 PM #36: |
hockeybub89 posted... People rag on you...isn't that you doing it most of the time? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 03/03/23 2:36:56 PM #37: |
Questionmarktarius posted... ...isn't that you doing it most of the time?Well I am people, last I checked --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Imit8m3 03/03/23 2:37:55 PM #38: |
Because Biden IS a republican. Why tf are you so surprised? --- Yes, I am aggressively handsome. Thanks for noticing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/03/23 2:38:57 PM #39: |
Imit8m3 posted... Why tf are you so surprised?Nobody is expressing surprise! --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WolfFangHowell 03/03/23 2:39:12 PM #40: |
Can someone bring up the actual issue here? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/03/23 2:40:48 PM #41: |
WolfFangHowell posted... Can someone bring up the actual issue here?https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/politics/joe-biden-dc-crime-bill ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaldrenthebold 03/03/23 2:41:34 PM #42: |
Jagr_68 posted... It's an extremely delicate topic here in Philadelphia because over 50% of the population is black and they are most often victimized by gun violence, black on black crimes, etc while simultaneously subject to circumstances of profiling by police. So we have these big chunks of the city demanding both police reform and to also be tougher on crime so the city is safer for everyone. Being real here, it's such a mess to navigate due to lack of strict gun laws and lack of police accountability these lazy assholes in charge would rather just knock things out the "easy way" with tougher punishments to keep criminals in prison longer rather than act via true long term solutions like complete police reform and training. Yep absolutely. In certain cities and areas crime actually wasn't rising, yet that didn't stop the drums from coming out saying "DEMS ARE WEAK ON CRIME RAH RAH RAH". I would venture a guess that this is the ONLY reason Republicans even got the slim majority in the house in the end anyway. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 03/03/23 2:44:37 PM #43: |
WolfFangHowell posted... Can someone bring up the actual issue here?Sure. DC undertook a process for more than a decade of modernizing its legal code. This updated code passed city council over the veto of the mayor. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/01/washington-dc-crime-reform-sentencing-fox-news.html DC, though, is subject to congressional review of the bills passed by its city council. Republicans have signaled that they want to block the new code from being implemented, under the false notion that it drastically reduces criminal punishments. Biden is saying that if such an overturn passes congress, he will not veto it. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/03/23 2:46:52 PM #44: |
Jagr_68 posted... It's an extremely delicate topic here in Philadelphia because over 50% of the population is black and they are most often victimized by gun violence, black on black crimes, etc while simultaneously subject to circumstances of profiling by police. So we have these big chunks of the city demanding both police reform and to also be tougher on crime so the city is safer for everyone. Being real here, it's such a mess to navigate due to lack of strict gun laws and lack of police accountability these lazy assholes in charge would rather just knock things out the "easy way" with tougher punishments to keep criminals in prison longer rather than act via true long term solutions like complete police reform and training.Yeah, I'm gonna go back to ridiculous hot takes now. Legalize drugs, and the peripheral crime around it just evaporates. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 03/03/23 2:47:45 PM #45: |
Kaldrenthebold posted... Yep absolutely. In certain cities and areas crime actually wasn't rising, yet that didn't stop the drums from coming out saying "DEMS ARE WEAK ON CRIME RAH RAH RAH". I would venture a guess that this is the ONLY reason Republicans even got the slim majority in the house in the end anyway.Cause Dems almost always cede the point to the Republicans and agree with their messaging, and the Overton window slides more and more to the right each time. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 03/03/23 2:47:49 PM #46: |
Antifar posted... Sure. DC undertook a process for more than a decade of modernizing its legal code. This updated code passed city council over the veto of the mayor. Do you think Biden is doing this because he's conservative, as has been the sentiment in many of the posts you've replied to, or do you think he's just trying to (ineffectively) reach across the aisle? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/03/23 2:48:13 PM #47: |
And moderates still don't understand why progressives don't want to throw their support behind a Democrat --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 03/03/23 2:58:58 PM #48: |
Antifar posted... It would be a mistake to say he's as bad as Trump. But I think you should care when politicians, even ones you support, do bad things.Yes I care but no where near to the extend the usuals try to play their hand. The good Biden has done vastly outweighs anything bad. Biden has done plenty of progressive things, yet the usuals come out to act like he's the most anti progressive president. So I'm not gonna act like Rose Twitter and try to act like this is devastating news that he does something I don't like every once and a while "so he's awful." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/03/23 3:00:21 PM #49: |
asdf8562 posted... Yes I care, but the good Biden has done vastly outweighs anything bad. I'm sure you wouldn't feel this way if you were one of the people affected by this bill --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 03/03/23 3:01:08 PM #50: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... I'm sure you wouldn't feel this way if you were one of the people affected by this billI live in the dmv area. I'm also black. I don't care anywhere near to the extent the usuals try to play this out to be. If Biden runs 2024, I'd vote for him again. I'd vote whoever the primary winner is really. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/03/23 3:02:19 PM #51: |
asdf8562 posted... I live in the dmv area. I'm also black. I don't care. Cool I guess? --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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