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deoxxys
03/02/23 12:36:27 AM
#102:


JuanCarlos1 posted...
This ultimately backfires on the trans community sadly. We know the most vocal are a minority, but they end up being the face of the movement they stand for.
How can I divert this kind of thing?

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RockLee94
03/02/23 12:50:10 AM
#103:


Good now they can get a real job

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Dakimakura
03/02/23 12:51:20 AM
#104:


Vtuber probably should have been banned from streaming Western trash.

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Balnazarr
03/02/23 12:56:51 AM
#105:


dancing_cactuar posted...
Nah, you weren't the only guy to blame 4chin for the harassment, you were just the most recent one and worded it slightly different. And thanks to how threads on CE get deleted, I can't post proof of the other times people were blaming 4chan instead of members of the trans community going way too far. I vaguely remember our buddy Amok was blaming 4chan, whose janitors on /vt/ are currently on overdrive deleting posts and banning users.

Not here, but:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/3/AAZroiAAEO4J.jpg
Like I mentioned in another topic, interesting how these people have the cojones to go against women, but when it's a male streamer like Cr1tikal they chicken out.

Oh FFS. 4chan is behind a not so insignificant harassment campaign's alongside Kiwi farms. Go to /vt/ and tell me that looks like a warm welcoming place for LBGT people. They're going ape shit spamming slurs and making death threats towards trans people. You're a terrible person.
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solosnake
03/02/23 1:28:39 AM
#107:


outrage cancel culture at its finest

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dancing_cactuar
03/02/23 1:32:56 AM
#108:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I like how people somehow got this out of "mods are deleting a bunch of posts on /vt/". 4chan's fucking shit and I'd post a couple panels from Preacher that sum up the entire site in a nutshell (especially /pol/), but I have zero doubts that I'd get modded for doing that because it's Garth Ennis we're talking about here, so I will abstain.

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hockeybub89
03/02/23 1:43:23 AM
#109:


solosnake posted...
outrage cancel culture at its finest
Cancel culture literally does not exist

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pogo_rabid
03/02/23 1:47:24 AM
#110:


Balnazarr posted...
Oh FFS. 4chan is behind a not so insignificant harassment campaign's alongside Kiwi farms. Go to /vt/ and tell me that looks like a warm welcoming place for LBGT people. They're going ape shit spamming slurs and making death threats towards trans people. You're a terrible person.
Considering we have communities on reddit openly celebrating and organizing the harassment I would imagine this point is is neither here nor there. 4chan is the shithole of the internet but trying to pretend they're responsible for every bad thing is just a silly. I get that you want to label this is some sort of false flag alex jones shit to take some heat off the people who actually did this, but you're doing nothing but speculating.

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pogo_rabid
03/02/23 2:02:34 AM
#111:


Twitter hatemobbers get off to the idea of bullying others into submission, the fact they made a well known Vtuber retire must feel like fucking heroine to them.

I can guarantee you that these people never even knew who Pikamee was before this, they only care about they got another victory to brag about to their friends to farm clout. I mean just look at the memes they're making to make her to be some incel hero akin to andrew tate.

btw these are the types of...people...some CEmen are trying to defend/deflect away from
https://archive.is/bc2aw
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https://archive.is/NFZcE


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MarcyWarcy
03/02/23 2:23:16 AM
#112:


"Cancel culture doesn't exist" is just wrong. People absolutely try to cancel people over stuff all the time and there is absolutely a culture built up around how to do it, how to react to it, etc

Now you could say "cancel culture is usually doesn't work" and you would be right, because a lot of high profile are able to withstand it due to their connections. Hell, you could even argue that it's justified to attempt most of the time. But saying it doesn't exist just doesn't work
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GiftedACIII
03/02/23 2:35:59 AM
#113:


Harassing streamers for what games they play is repugnant but I'm surprised they're not just streaming the new Kirby. Kirby makes everything brighter and it seems like that's what a lot of people need right now.

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Eab1990
03/02/23 2:49:57 AM
#114:


I mean, putting aside the idea that people who "need brightness" aren't necessarily going to watch streamers playing Kirby, or how Kirby isn't all sunshine and rainbows to begin with especially since the new mode is a literal metaphor for repenting for past sins, the "new" Kirby is a remake of a game that's over 10 years old.

The only streamers I've seen playing it right now are people who never played the Wii version, people playing multiplayer, and/or people who are actually invested enough in the lore/100% completion to play the extra mode.
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Kloe_Rinz
03/02/23 4:51:30 AM
#115:


Eab1990 posted...
I mean, putting aside the idea that people who "need brightness" aren't necessarily going to watch streamers playing Kirby
but they will harass and bully people on twitter even though they don't watch streamers? Because they are extremely vile and repulsive people
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gmanthebest
03/02/23 5:16:46 AM
#116:


Bunch of scumbags harassing someone for playing a game.

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pinky0926
03/02/23 5:19:06 AM
#117:


slacktivism strikes again

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Collat
03/02/23 6:23:14 AM
#118:


Wouldn't doubt that a good chunk of these people are still giving companies like Blizzard money.

Just people looking for an excuse to bully.

deoxxys posted...
How can I divert this kind of thing?
If you are a trans person, all you can really do is disavow that kind of behavior.

If people see that the majority of lgbt people don't accept it, then it takes people's ability to weaponize it against them away.
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Kakapo
03/02/23 6:23:44 AM
#119:


Collat posted...
Wouldn't doubt that a good chunk of these people are still giving companies like Blizzard money.

Just people looking for an excuse to bully.
Yup. Some people are very keen to bully, its true.

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SDBZ
03/02/23 7:14:38 AM
#120:


pogo_rabid posted...
Lets assume her graduation was in the works for a while. Best case scenario the harassers did not make her graduate. They just made her last month before graduating a living hell and horrible experience. Congratulations. You are still horrible pieces of shit and like vampires have sucked out the last bits of joy streaming brought to her. Instead of the last month or so of her streaming career being bittersweet, they went and turned it into a nightmare.

If I said what I really think about these...people...i'd get banned. Pikamee was one of the most wholesome, sweet people in the streaming world. She is literally the last person to have done anything to deserve this.

If you were one of the people who partook in the harassment campaign, or even deep down silently supported it, I hate you. I hate your entire being. There is nothing you could possibly do in your life to undo the hate I feel for you.


This like holy shit.

Fuck you all.

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Lokison
03/02/23 9:24:07 AM
#121:


This whole situation is pathetic.

Sending death threats to people because they played a game; a passion project by (likely) troubled people who used that world as an escape from their own troubled lives, because they don't like 1 person.

They dislike 1 person, and so they send death threats to other people, because they like one aspect of that 1 person's mind. 1 person. 1 person has enough power to turn everyone against each other- over a FUCKING VIDEO GAME.

This has to be the most pathetic bullshit I've seen in that last decade; and I saw Trump become POTUS.

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Background_Guy
03/02/23 11:23:59 AM
#122:


pogo_rabid posted...
Considering we have communities on reddit openly celebrating and organizing the harassment

Okay link the threads where they openly organize the harassment
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Background_Guy
03/02/23 11:24:54 AM
#123:


CyricZ posted...
So I'm sure it's way too late to point out that in the Vtuber topic it's already been established that her departure from VOMS was almost certainly a planned thing for some time, well before she announced that stream.

No, harassment is not a good thing, but claiming that this was the unilateral reason for Pikamee's graduation is dishonest.
I can't believe people would lie on CE to stoke outrage against minorities. That's unheard of
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mario2000
03/02/23 11:26:43 AM
#124:


SDBZ posted...
This like holy shit.

Fuck you all.

You fellas need to calm down.

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Background_Guy
03/02/23 11:30:31 AM
#125:


mario2000 posted...
You fellas need to calm down.
Yeah people need to be forced to touch grass here
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Doom_Art
03/02/23 11:31:30 AM
#126:


The boycott failed to lower interest in the game, pretending the game is terrible failed to lower interest in the game, spoiling people on Twitter failed to lower interest in the game.

So now we've moved on to harassment and threats to lower interest in the game.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it's not so much about activism at this point but rather an excuse to bully.

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Background_Guy
03/02/23 11:40:16 AM
#128:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You haven't posted any proof of any of that. Therefore, you're lying.
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CyricZ
03/02/23 11:41:08 AM
#129:


Background_Guy posted...
I can't believe people would lie on CE to stoke outrage against minorities. That's unheard of
So the thing is that I can't prove this. The only people who can prove this are VOMS and Post #1 already showed their statement of all they're going to say about this.

I've been in some Pikamee tribute videos on YT and some of the comments are literal bigotry and calls to action.

But I don't expect anyone here to be able to control that, no matter how angry it makes me.

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Lokison
03/02/23 11:52:52 AM
#131:


Background_Guy posted...
You haven't posted any proof of any of that. Therefore, you're lying.
The Holocaust happened. I refuse to post proof therefore I am lying.

Is that how it works?

America is in terrible shape and we need to fix that. Im not posting proof though, so I guess that fixes the issues

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Background_Guy
03/02/23 11:56:10 AM
#132:


Lokison posted...
The Holocaust happened. I refuse to post proof therefore I am lying.

Is that how it works?

America is in terrible shape and we need to fix that. Im not posting proof though, so I guess that fixes the issues
Wow you escalated that very quickly.
You realize that there's tons and tons of proof of the Holocaust happening, right?
As opposed to this where there is no proof.
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Background_Guy
03/02/23 11:57:48 AM
#133:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Okay post proof that this announcement was made in response to harassment. Because the announcement in the OP doesn't mention anything like that.
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Doom_Art
03/02/23 12:04:29 PM
#134:


A lot of this is eerily similar to the people who spent years melting down over TLoU2

"Prove there's harassment happening! No one is harassing anyone or sending threats over being involved with this game!"

Actually y'know this might be worse, since a lot of the threats and harassment for TLoU2 were primarily targeted at people who were involved with the game, whereas this is more scattershot anyone playing it.

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mario2000
03/02/23 12:08:22 PM
#135:


Lokison posted...
The Holocaust happened.

You uh

You sure this is the comparison you want to make here?

Considering what the Hogwarts game is notorious for...

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dancing_cactuar
03/02/23 12:09:33 PM
#136:


-Take a month long hiatus
-Announce that you're going to play game as a comeback stream
-Get shitton of harassment before you even play the game
-Go on yet another month long hiatus/extend it for another month after apologizing and still getting shit on
-Promptly out of the blue announce your retirement by the end of the month and will delete all your twitch vods
But by all means tell me that this was a normal, planned retirement.

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voldothegr8
03/02/23 12:10:39 PM
#137:


pogo_rabid posted...
Lets assume her graduation was in the works for a while. Best case scenario the harassers did not make her graduate. They just made her last month before graduating a living hell and horrible experience. Congratulations. You are still horrible pieces of shit and like vampires have sucked out the last bits of joy streaming brought to her. Instead of the last month or so of her streaming career being bittersweet, they went and turned it into a nightmare.

If I said what I really think about these...people...i'd get banned. Pikamee was one of the most wholesome, sweet people in the streaming world. She is literally the last person to have done anything to deserve this.

If you were one of the people who partook in the harassment campaign, or even deep down silently supported it, I hate you. I hate your entire being. There is nothing you could possibly do in your life to undo the hate I feel for you.


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Tmaster148
03/02/23 12:11:23 PM
#138:


dancing_cactuar posted...
-Take a month long hiatus
-Announce that you're going to play game as a comeback stream
-Get shitton of harassment before you even play the game
-Go on yet another month long hiatus/extend it for another month after apologizing and still getting shit on
-Promptly out of the blue announce your retirement by the end of the month and delete all your twitch vods
But by all means tell me that this was a normal, planned retirement.

The people who justified their harassment of her are never going to admit they have any fault.

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RKO_OrtonBoi
03/02/23 12:19:18 PM
#139:


If we need to truly be equal, we need to accept some sacrifices. This VTuber is one of those sacrifices. Trans people are targeted every single day with their rights and lives at stake so I am sure one girl posing as an anime character retiring is a worthy sacrifice for human rights.

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blackrider76
03/02/23 12:21:21 PM
#140:


Background_Guy posted...
You haven't posted any proof of any of that. Therefore, you're lying.

You dont have to pick up Amoks slack.

Doom_Art posted...
The boycott failed to lower interest in the game, pretending the game is terrible failed to lower interest in the game, spoiling people on Twitter failed to lower interest in the game.

So now we've moved on to harassment and threats to lower interest in the game.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it's not so much about activism at this point but rather an excuse to bully.

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1631310927680221184

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Tmaster148
03/02/23 12:22:24 PM
#141:


RKO_OrtonBoi posted...
If we need to truly be equal, we need to accept some sacrifices. This VTuber is one of those sacrifices. Trans people are targeted every single day with their rights and lives at stake so I am sure one girl posing as an anime character retiring is a worthy sacrifice for human rights.

Bullying a streamer for playing a game does not to further human rights. Stop using trans people as an excuse to be awful towards others.

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dancing_cactuar
03/02/23 12:24:33 PM
#143:


blackrider76 posted...
You dont have to pick up Amoks slack.
I have a sneaking suspicion Ortonboi's Amok's alt, got him tagged as someone's alt anyway.
Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1631310927680221184
This will be an interesting stream from the bunny.

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Tobi011
03/02/23 12:28:42 PM
#144:


I'd just like to say that just because a bunch of Twitter wokcols bulled a Vtuber into retirement, doesn't give you the right to be transphobic.
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RKO_OrtonBoi
03/02/23 12:30:45 PM
#145:


Tmaster148 posted...
Bullying a streamer for playing a game does not to further human rights. Stop using trans people as an excuse to be awful towards others.

It wasn't bullying. There may have been a few fringe cases of people going overboard but people politely told her not to play the game.

And regardless, I feel like this is a drip in the water compared to the bucket of stuff Trans people have to go through. Rowling keeps allying herself with people who make merely existing as a Trans human a living hell and you got Republicans in America trying to actively strip their rights away. Let's not forget how Russia turns a blind eye over Trans people being murdered as people on social media pose in front of the murdered body of a trans person they hunted like its sports.

So what Pikamee went through is childs play compared to what they go through.

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Tmaster148
03/02/23 12:31:45 PM
#146:


RKO_OrtonBoi posted...
people politely told her not to play the game.

That is not what happened

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mario2000
03/02/23 12:33:48 PM
#147:


Tmaster148 posted...
That is not what happened

What actually happened?

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SDBZ
03/02/23 12:43:38 PM
#148:


Background_Guy posted...
Yeah people need to be forced to touch grass here

Shut up. The pieces of shits that harrassed Pikamee are the ones that need to touch grass since they probably do shit all but bully and harass people and are terminally online.

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the_pika
03/02/23 12:45:56 PM
#149:


RKO_OrtonBoi posted...
If we need to truly be equal, we need to accept some sacrifices. This VTuber is one of those sacrifices. Trans people are targeted every single day with their rights and lives at stake so I am sure one girl posing as an anime character retiring is a worthy sacrifice for human rights.


gunpla Alt?
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mario2000
03/02/23 12:48:35 PM
#150:


SDBZ posted...
Shut up. The pieces of shits that harrassed Pikamee are the ones that need to touch grass since they probably do shit all but bully and harass people and are terminally online.

whynotboth.gif

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Prestoff
03/02/23 12:48:38 PM
#151:


Who posted at 149?

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