Board 8 > Paper Mario Mafia Topic 7 - Mario is missing

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Chaeix 02/15/23 1:30:13 PM #151:	masterplum posted... I hate mass claims what sort of crazy gas lighting from JC and Han is this. I wanted an early mass claim last game because I knew it was a cult game and nobody else did thats fair Anyways Ill be honest part of the reason I want a mass is because if theres no cop, Ben is possibly somewhat plausible? If star spirits are in fact the town vanillas, hes a weak cop if he hasnt claimed and suggested to scum that they shouldnt claim star spirits. If someone claims star spirit hes supposed to scan them. His role becomes less productive once hes claimed and scum knows not to claim a star spirit as vanilla. His role is a weak cop that tests vanilla claims if he hasnt fully claimed. The role is kind of balanced because until we figure out whether or not star spirits are vanillas, his scan is useless (e.g. if Peaf is scum, and town hasnt figured out star spirits are vanilla, the town does nothing). It implicitly means Hb and Peaf are scum because they claimed not-star-spirits though. I am not suggesting this is in fact the case, just spitballing a scenario. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585445] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite><quote>I hate mass claims what sort of crazy gas lighting from JC and Han is this.I wanted an early mass claim last game because I knew it was a cult game and nobody else did</quote>thats fairAnyways Ill be honest part of the reason I want a mass is because if theres no cop, Ben is possibly somewhat plausible?If star spirits are in fact the town vanillas, hes a weak cop if he hasnt claimed and suggested to scum that they shouldnt claim star spirits. If someone claims star spirit hes supposed to scan them. His role becomes less productive once hes claimed and scum knows not to claim a star spirit as vanilla. His role is a weak cop that tests vanilla claims if he hasnt fully claimed. The role is kind of balanced because until we figure out whether or not star spirits are vanillas, his scan is useless (e.g. if Peaf is scum, and town hasnt figured out star spirits are vanilla, the town does nothing).It implicitly means Hb and Peaf are scum because they claimed not-star-spirits though.I am not suggesting this is in fact the case, just spitballing a scenario.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:30:21 PM #152:	masterplum posted... Yeah nah ##unvote ##Vote:Han literally 2 games ago I refused to claim as town citing my hatred of claims and Han and I had a back and forth on this There is no way that Town let's this conversation go down IIRC, I was using my death at Ulti's hands, who tried to lynch me when I didn't want to claim, and didn't claim, as a reason to tell you why you should. I don't want to claim Ctes stuff now, not to save my life, but because it's better for Town, and in particular, JC. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585448] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite><quote>Yeah nah##unvote##Vote:Hanliterally 2 games ago I refused to claim as town citing my hatred of claims and Han and I had a back and forth on thisThere is no way that Town let's this conversation go down</quote>IIRC, I was using my death at Ulti's hands, who tried to lynch me when I didn't want to claim, and didn't claim, as a reason to tell you why you should.I don't want to claim Ctes stuff now, not to save my life, but because it's better for Town, and in particular, JC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 1:30:58 PM #153:	The scan does nothing* not the town does nothing typing is hard --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585465] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>The scan does nothing* not the town does nothingtyping is hard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 02/15/23 1:32:53 PM #154:	Chaeix posted... Does this post seem consistent with plum btw? I had it in my head that from the last few games, plum had a weird day where he kept suggesting an early mass. Hell, even this game D1 he joked about massing IIRC. It just strikes me as weird that hed be anti-mass given I literally almost @d him to try and get support for the mass lol. HanOfTheNekos posted... I didn't say anything about you and mass claiming. This is scum backpeddling That was the scum tell I caught on Han last game. Scum Han let me die knowing that my eccentricity killed me. Han is doing the exact same thing here. He is replying to all of the comments in this page. He claims that he didn't say anything about me mass claiming which even if true means he purposefully ignored shutting down this train by JC This is scum Han --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:971585496] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Does this post seem consistent with plum btw?I had it in my head that from the last few games, plum had a weird day where he kept suggesting an early mass. Hell, even this game D1 he joked about massing IIRC. It just strikes me as weird that hed be anti-mass given I literally almost @d him to try and get support for the mass lol.</quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>I didn't say anything about you and mass claiming.</quote>This is scum backpeddling That was the scum tell I caught on Han last game. Scum Han let me die knowing that my eccentricity killed me. Han is doing the exact same thing here. He is replying to all of the comments in this page. He claims that he didn't say anything about me mass claiming which even if true means he purposefully ignored shutting down this train by JCThis is scum Han</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:35:04 PM #155:	I'm not letting you die here, Plum lol Do you think you are currently being lynched? Do you think I needed to respond to that post from JC? Don't you realize it's better to see your reaction to that post? Do you think I am a historian with perfect memory of your opinions on claims from every game? Your argument here is baseless. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585547] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I'm not letting you die here, Plum lolDo you think you are currently being lynched?Do you think I needed to respond to that post from JC? Don't you realize it's better to see your reaction to that post? Do you think I am a historian with perfect memory of your opinions on claims from every game?Your argument here is baseless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 1:35:27 PM #156:	Plum, you said earlier that if it was scum Han, it would still be scum Ben. I'm telling you that this is definitely town Han based on a n2 action of mine. Why would you rather vote Han than Ben? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971585560] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Plum, you said earlier that if it was scum Han, it would still be scum Ben. I'm telling you that this is definitely town Han based on a n2 action of mine.Why would you rather vote Han than Ben?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:37:19 PM #157:	Like, here's the sitch Plum - I'm not sure what you've been right about this game. Most of the time I read posts from you, it seems like you're wildly off-base. Now, I had in my mind because I Townread you earlier that this matches up with your Townplay, because I don't recall you being accurate as Town. But now I am reconsidering it because I can't ever link up with your mindset. Which is the direct opposite of Red, who I feel like everything he has said this game has been sensible, and I get. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585596] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Like, here's the sitch Plum - I'm not sure what you've been right about this game. Most of the time I read posts from you, it seems like you're wildly off-base. Now, I had in my mind because I Townread you earlier that this matches up with your Townplay, because I don't recall you being accurate as Town. But now I am reconsidering it because I can't ever link up with your mindset. Which is the direct opposite of Red, who I feel like everything he has said this game has been sensible, and I get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 1:37:43 PM #158:	Does lynching Hb or Peaf test Ben? Bens role only makes sense if all vanillas are star spirits. I refuse to believe the utility was in relation to Mario/Sultan. Maybe Peaf doesnt want Ben lynched because it exposes his claim. gah my head is spinning this is a hard day. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585607] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Does lynching Hb or Peaf test Ben?Bens role only makes sense if all vanillas are star spirits. I refuse to believe the utility was in relation to Mario/Sultan.Maybe Peaf doesnt want Ben lynched because it exposes his claim.gah my head is spinning this is a hard day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 1:37:53 PM #159:	Can anyone not on mobile give me votals? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971585611] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Can anyone not on mobile give me votals? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 02/15/23 1:38:44 PM #160:	Fuck it I'm starting the mass claim I'm claiming power. Dumey, what's your flavor? --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:971585626] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Fuck itI'm starting the mass claimI'm claiming power. Dumey, what's your flavor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 02/15/23 1:38:52 PM #161:	ctesjbuvf posted... Plum, you said earlier that if it was scum Han, it would still be scum Ben. I'm telling you that this is definitely town Han based on a n2 action of mine. Why would you rather vote Han than Ben? Emotion ... ##Unvote ##Vote:Ben --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:971585631] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Plum, you said earlier that if it was scum Han, it would still be scum Ben. I'm telling you that this is definitely town Han based on a n2 action of mine.Why would you rather vote Han than Ben?</quote>Emotion...##Unvote##Vote:Ben</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 1:39:11 PM #162:	Kirby321 posted... Fuck it I'm starting the mass claim I'm claiming power. Dumey, what's your flavor? fuck yeah --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585634] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>Fuck itI'm starting the mass claimI'm claiming power. Dumey, what's your flavor?</quote>fuck yeah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 1:39:18 PM #163:	ctesjbuvf posted... Can anyone not on mobile give me votals? Or someone on mobile is fine of course, just why I am not doing it myself. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971585640] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Can anyone not on mobile give me votals?</quote>Or someone on mobile is fine of course, just why I am not doing it myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 1:40:20 PM #164:	Chaeix posted... Does lynching Hb or Peaf test Ben? Given the value of Ben's role, I think if you doubt Ben you lynch Ben instead of testing him first. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971585657] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Does lynching Hb or Peaf test Ben?</quote>Given the value of Ben's role, I think if you doubt Ben you lynch Ben instead of testing him first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 02/15/23 1:40:25 PM #165:	I hate everything Kirby come on man --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:971585661] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I hate everything Kirby come on man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:41:01 PM #166:	Chaeix posted... Does lynching Hb or Peaf test Ben? Bens role only makes sense if all vanillas are star spirits. I refuse to believe the utility was in relation to Mario/Sultan. Maybe Peaf doesnt want Ben lynched because it exposes his claim. gah my head is spinning this is a hard day. The reason to believe Ben is not in relation to Mario. It's to believe Ben's role is "weak ass Cop". A cop who, if Peaf is right, gets an innocent role from only 4 Town players. Not as terrible as an Insane Cop! But not as good as a regular Cop. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585676] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Does lynching Hb or Peaf test Ben?Bens role only makes sense if all vanillas are star spirits. I refuse to believe the utility was in relation to Mario/Sultan.Maybe Peaf doesnt want Ben lynched because it exposes his claim.gah my head is spinning this is a hard day.</quote>The reason to believe Ben is not in relation to Mario.It's to believe Ben's role is "weak ass Cop".A cop who, if Peaf is right, gets an innocent role from only 4 Town players.Not as terrible as an Insane Cop! But not as good as a regular Cop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 1:41:09 PM #167:	Chaeix posted... Bens role only makes sense if all vanillas are star spirits. I refuse to believe the utility was in relation to Mario/Sultan. I disagree. If you read my fucking posts you'll see that his role works whether Star spirits are vanilla or not. What matters is that they are all town. Holy shit, dude. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971585678] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Bens role only makes sense if all vanillas are star spirits. I refuse to believe the utility was in relation to Mario/Sultan.</quote>I disagree. If you read my fucking posts you'll see that his role works whether Star spirits are vanilla or not. What matters is that they are all town. Holy shit, dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:41:44 PM #168:	Ha, I ninja'd Peaf. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585692] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Ha, I ninja'd Peaf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:42:32 PM #169:	And yes Peaf, I realize that argument ties in for your explanation utilizing Sultan. I just don't think connecting it with Sultan is any different than connecting it with, say, JC and his claimed scans. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585715] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>And yes Peaf, I realize that argument ties in for your explanation utilizing Sultan. I just don't think connecting it with Sultan is any different than connecting it with, say, JC and his claimed scans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 1:42:34 PM #170:	Sorry, I'm only able to poke in on boring work calls and I'm getting frustrated at repeating myself. I don't mean to be such a dick about it. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971585716] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Sorry, I'm only able to poke in on boring work calls and I'm getting frustrated at repeating myself. I don't mean to be such a dick about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 1:42:55 PM #171:	ctesjbuvf posted... Given the value of Ben's role, I think if you doubt Ben you lynch Ben instead of testing him first. Its more that if we accomplish the same thing by testing someone else, we leave our weak cop alive to scan a star spirit --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585726] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Given the value of Ben's role, I think if you doubt Ben you lynch Ben instead of testing him first.</quote>Its more that if we accomplish the same thing by testing someone else, we leave our weak cop alive to scan a star spirit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 1:43:45 PM #172:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Not as terrible as an Insane Cop! But not as good as a regular Cop. Insane Cop might just be better because it can figure out it's insane and then be good. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971585743] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>Not as terrible as an Insane Cop! But not as good as a regular Cop.</quote>Insane Cop might just be better because it can figure out it's insane and then be good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 02/15/23 1:43:52 PM #173:	I think these votals are right Unofficial Votals Han [2] (Ulti), EDumey, JC, (Plum) Kirby [1] - Peaf Red [1] - Ulti Ben [1] - (Plum), Plum --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:971585745] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I think these votals are rightUnofficial VotalsHan [2] (Ulti), EDumey, JC, (Plum)Kirby [1] - PeafRed [1] - UltiBen [1] - (Plum), Plum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 1:44:13 PM #174:	HanOfTheNekos posted... And yes Peaf, I realize that argument ties in for your explanation utilizing Sultan. I just don't think connecting it with Sultan is any different than connecting it with, say, JC and his claimed scans. That's fine. I accept that ben in isolation without Sultan still has valid usefulness - which you'll realize is exactly what i said to you when you pushed me on "what if sultan is lynched day 1, what value does Ben add". --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971585750] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>And yes Peaf, I realize that argument ties in for your explanation utilizing Sultan. I just don't think connecting it with Sultan is any different than connecting it with, say, JC and his claimed scans.</quote>That's fine. I accept that ben in isolation without Sultan still has valid usefulness - which you'll realize is exactly what i said to you when you pushed me on "what if sultan is lynched day 1, what value does Ben add".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 1:44:54 PM #175:	ctesjbuvf posted... Insane Cop might just be better because it can figure out it's insane and then be good. Insane cop lacks the flavor benefits that host has already. Told. Us. Matters. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971585762] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Insane Cop might just be better because it can figure out it's insane and then be good.</quote>Insane cop lacks the flavor benefits that host has already. Told. Us. Matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:45:13 PM #176:	Peace___Frog posted... That's fine. I accept that ben in isolation without Sultan still has valid usefulness - which you'll realize is exactly what i said to you when you pushed me on "what if sultan is lynched day 1, what value does Ben add". Well, when viewed entirely through the lens of "just for Sultan", it makes sense. I needed a little time to take a step back and open my mind. And also sleep. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585767] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite><quote>That's fine. I accept that ben in isolation without Sultan still has valid usefulness - which you'll realize is exactly what i said to you when you pushed me on "what if sultan is lynched day 1, what value does Ben add".</quote>Well, when viewed entirely through the lens of "just for Sultan", it makes sense. I needed a little time to take a step back and open my mind.And also sleep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 1:45:52 PM #177:	Peace___Frog posted... I disagree. If you read my fucking posts you'll see that his role works whether Star spirits are vanilla or not. What matters is that they are all town. Holy shit, dude. Your point is well taken But if youre scum it means the point is misdirection on Bens role. I kinda have to consider both the you as town and you as scum scenarios here and this was just me contemplating the latter. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585780] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite><quote>I disagree. If you read my fucking posts you'll see that his role works whether Star spirits are vanilla or not. What matters is that they are all town. Holy shit, dude.</quote>Your point is well takenBut if youre scum it means the point is misdirection on Bens role.I kinda have to consider both the you as town and you as scum scenarios here and this was just me contemplating the latter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 1:46:51 PM #178:	Chaeix posted... Its more that if we accomplish the same thing by testing someone else, we leave our weak cop alive to scan a star spirit Only star spirits being vanilla without scum knowing would be the most ridiculously unfair thing I had the seen and I once got mislynched being Lopen was insane phychic. I refuse to believe it's possible. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971585800] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Its more that if we accomplish the same thing by testing someone else, we leave our weak cop alive to scan a star spirit</quote>Only star spirits being vanilla without scum knowing would be the most ridiculously unfair thing I had the seen and I once got mislynched being Lopen was insane phychic. I refuse to believe it's possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 02/15/23 1:48:08 PM #179:	... In hindsight, I should've waited for Dumey to be online and posting before claiming. Oh well. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:971585829] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>... In hindsight, I should've waited for Dumey to be online and posting before claiming. Oh well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:48:14 PM #180:	I would not believe all vanillas are Star Spirits. I do believe all Star Spirits are Town. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585831] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I would not believe all vanillas are Star Spirits.I do believe all Star Spirits are Town.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:48:36 PM #181:	Kirby321 posted... ... In hindsight, I should've waited for Dumey to be online and posting before claiming. Oh well. yeah, look at Dumey DODGING you right now while he thinks of a fakeclaim (this is a joke) --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585840] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>... In hindsight, I should've waited for Dumey to be online and posting before claiming. Oh well.</quote>yeah, look at Dumey DODGING you right now while he thinks of a fakeclaim (this is a joke)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 02/15/23 1:48:55 PM #182:	ctesjbuvf posted... Only star spirits being vanilla without scum knowing would be the most ridiculously unfair thing I had the seen and I once got mislynched being Lopen was insane phychic. I refuse to believe it's possible. It's possible they do know. If a role flipped showing they know that would be the silver bullet evidence Ben's role is plausible But unlikely --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:971585845] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Only star spirits being vanilla without scum knowing would be the most ridiculously unfair thing I had the seen and I once got mislynched being Lopen was insane phychic. I refuse to believe it's possible.</quote>It's possible they do know. If a role flipped showing they know that would be the silver bullet evidence Ben's role is plausible But unlikely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:50:22 PM #183:	At least at this pace, I'll be able to put together my breakdown before the mass happens. Ctes, want to claim for me after I claim for you? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585876] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>At least at this pace, I'll be able to put together my breakdown before the mass happens.Ctes, want to claim for me after I claim for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 1:50:45 PM #184:	I don't have a problem with you evaluating a scenario where I'm scum. If that helps you figure the game out, that's fine. I have no pride here. My issue is in the speculation that the stars are all vanilla just because me and isq (two confirmed town, to me) and Ulti (jury is out) have all claimed vanilla star. I am not suggesting that ben's purpose is just to find vanilla. That is a plausible scum version of his role, but i do not think he is scum given the information currently publicly available. Thus, it is irrelevant to his role's town purpose. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971585887] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I don't have a problem with you evaluating a scenario where I'm scum. If that helps you figure the game out, that's fine. I have no pride here. My issue is in the speculation that the stars are all vanilla just because me and isq (two confirmed town, to me) and Ulti (jury is out) have all claimed vanilla star.I am not suggesting that ben's purpose is just to find vanilla. That is a plausible scum version of his role, but i do not think he is scum given the information currently publicly available. Thus, it is irrelevant to his role's town purpose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 1:51:05 PM #185:	ctesjbuvf posted... Only star spirits being vanilla without scum knowing would be the most ridiculously unfair thing I had the seen and I once got mislynched being Lopen was insane phychic. I refuse to believe it's possible. This is certainly an obstacle, I cant say its not lol. But like I said, just spitballing. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971585893] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Only star spirits being vanilla without scum knowing would be the most ridiculously unfair thing I had the seen and I once got mislynched being Lopen was insane phychic. I refuse to believe it's possible.</quote>This is certainly an obstacle, I cant say its not lol.But like I said, just spitballing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:52:53 PM #186:	Here's a Peaf as Scum scenario: Peaf, Hb, and Plum all Scum. Peaf tried to play it cool at eod1 for Townpoints. Then the tie happened. Hb said he was going to lynch Peaf, knowing he would never pull the trigger. He knew this because Scummate Plum was ready to save Peaf. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971585932] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Here's a Peaf as Scum scenario:Peaf, Hb, and Plum all Scum.Peaf tried to play it cool at eod1 for Townpoints. Then the tie happened.Hb said he was going to lynch Peaf, knowing he would never pull the trigger.He knew this because Scummate Plum was ready to save Peaf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 1:57:16 PM #187:	It's possible. And maybe Han is my scum mate and orchestrated the tie to begin with. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971586010] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>It's possible. And maybe Han is my scum mate and orchestrated the tie to begin with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 1:59:39 PM #188:	Peace___Frog posted... It's possible. And maybe Han is my scum mate and orchestrated the tie to begin with. Yeah, it would sort of imply that. Or maybe Kirby who voted earlier...? Anyway, I want to point out that Ulti said he was a Star Spirit yesterday, and at some point Ben said "BUT I AIN'T GOING TO SCAN ULTI DESPITE THAT BEING MY ROLE'S PURPOSE" Which like, doesn't tie them together in case one of them gets lynched because Ben doesn't have to have a stance on "Ulti lying" or "Ulti truth". What I'm saying is it looks bad. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971586066] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite><quote>It's possible. And maybe Han is my scum mate and orchestrated the tie to begin with.</quote>Yeah, it would sort of imply that. Or maybe Kirby who voted earlier...?Anyway, I want to point out that Ulti said he was a Star Spirit yesterday, and at some point Ben said "BUT I AIN'T GOING TO SCAN ULTI DESPITE THAT BEING MY ROLE'S PURPOSE"Which like, doesn't tie them together in case one of them gets lynched because Ben doesn't have to have a stance on "Ulti lying" or "Ulti truth".What I'm saying is it looks bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 2:00:07 PM #189:	I'll need to remember the possible upside of those kinds of risky moves when I'm scum. Thanks for the advice, han. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971586075] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I'll need to remember the possible upside of those kinds of risky moves when I'm scum. Thanks for the advice, han. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 2:02:35 PM #190:	If you're Scum right now, I'm gonna kick your ass --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971586122] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>If you're Scum right now, I'm gonna kick your ass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 2:03:23 PM #191:	masterplum posted... It's possible they do know. If a role flipped showing they know that would be the silver bullet evidence Ben's role is plausible But unlikely But we have people saying they are vanilla and not star spirit --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971586133] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite><quote>It's possible they do know. If a role flipped showing they know that would be the silver bullet evidence Ben's role is plausible But unlikely</quote>But we have people saying they are vanilla and not star spirit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 2:05:09 PM #192:	HanOfTheNekos posted... At least at this pace, I'll be able to put together my breakdown before the mass happens. Ctes, want to claim for me after I claim for you? Sure but I would still prefer not to at all today. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971586163] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>At least at this pace, I'll be able to put together my breakdown before the mass happens.Ctes, want to claim for me after I claim for you?</quote>Sure but I would still prefer not to at all today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 2:06:52 PM #193:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Yeah, it would sort of imply that. Or maybe Kirby who voted earlier...? Anyway, I want to point out that Ulti said he was a Star Spirit yesterday, and at some point Ben said "BUT I AIN'T GOING TO SCAN ULTI DESPITE THAT BEING MY ROLE'S PURPOSE" Which like, doesn't tie them together in case one of them gets lynched because Ben doesn't have to have a stance on "Ulti lying" or "Ulti truth". What I'm saying is it looks bad. I was definitely wondering why he scanned someone who wasnt a claimed star spirit given the sole utility of his role But scum would also probably claim an action that made some amount of sense (unless they were protecting someone, which I suppose is exactly what youre getting at). --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971586201] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, it would sort of imply that. Or maybe Kirby who voted earlier...?Anyway, I want to point out that Ulti said he was a Star Spirit yesterday, and at some point Ben said "BUT I AIN'T GOING TO SCAN ULTI DESPITE THAT BEING MY ROLE'S PURPOSE"Which like, doesn't tie them together in case one of them gets lynched because Ben doesn't have to have a stance on "Ulti lying" or "Ulti truth".What I'm saying is it looks bad.</quote>I was definitely wondering why he scanned someone who wasnt a claimed star spirit given the sole utility of his roleBut scum would also probably claim an action that made some amount of sense (unless they were protecting someone, which I suppose is exactly what youre getting at).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 02/15/23 2:08:08 PM #194:	Peace___Frog posted... My issue is in the speculation that the stars are all vanilla just because me and isq (two confirmed town, to me) and Ulti (jury is out) have all claimed vanilla star. Eh? I thought you claimed Lakilester, not a Star Spirit. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:971586227] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite><quote>My issue is in the speculation that the stars are all vanilla just because me and isq (two confirmed town, to me) and Ulti (jury is out) have all claimed vanilla star.</quote>Eh? I thought you claimed Lakilester, not a Star Spirit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 2:09:11 PM #195:	oh peaf --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971586246] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>oh peaf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 02/15/23 2:12:42 PM #196:	awkward --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:971586310] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>awkward</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 02/15/23 2:13:33 PM #197:	Lol --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:971586331] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 02/15/23 2:15:49 PM #198:	Not to take away from this riveting revelation, but I thought I'd pop in to say: I'm not in favor of mass claiming, so I don't really see a reason to humor you right now Kirby. Now to take a page from confirmed town hero Sultan's playbook opens Popcorn --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:971586389] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>Not to take away from this riveting revelation, but I thought I'd pop in to say:I'm not in favor of mass claiming, so I don't really see a reason to humor you right now Kirby. Now to take a page from confirmed town hero Sultan's playbookopens Popcorn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/15/23 2:17:15 PM #199:	EDumey posted... Not to take away from this riveting revelation, but I thought I'd pop in to say: I'm not in favor of mass claiming, so I don't really see a reason to humor you right now Kirby. Now to take a page from confirmed town hero Sultan's playbook opens Popcorn For someone saying they want me to claim Ctes so much, you sure don't want me to claim Ctes lol --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:971586419] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>Not to take away from this riveting revelation, but I thought I'd pop in to say:I'm not in favor of mass claiming, so I don't really see a reason to humor you right now Kirby. Now to take a page from confirmed town hero Sultan's playbookopens Popcorn</quote>For someone saying they want me to claim Ctes so much, you sure don't want me to claim Ctes lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 02/15/23 2:17:20 PM #200:	I meant vanilla as not a star. Lol. Trying to post while talking in a work call confused things. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:971586422] in Paper Mari... [t:80348783]...</cite> <quote>I meant vanilla as not a star. Lol. Trying to post while talking in a work call confused things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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