Current Events > Support/Healer class is literally the easiest class to play

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In almost any game. All you do is buff, shield, heal, cure, debuff enemies and treat ailments. Stick to the majority of the team or your main damager dealer/MVP/Carry of the team. That's literally it. Dunno how so many people manage to fuck up playing this class.

Glad to see the only RPGs you've ever played were single player turn-based ones

Irony posted...

Glad to see the only RPGs you've ever played were single player turn-based ones

And you've never played FPS where there's healers.

It's a boring class to play. If I wanted to heal people I'd go to medical school smh.

i honestly hate playing medic in killing floor. people expect you to babysit them or be a healslut or whatever

Worst part of being a healer is getting blamed when the Tanks fuck up

viewmaster_pi posted...

i honestly hate playing medic in killing floor. people expect you to babysit them or be a healslut or whatever

You will be a healslut

Smashingpmkns posted...

It's a boring class to play. If I wanted to heal people I'd go to medical school smh.

The games I play the healers wants to dps and not heal. Like, why play healer then? I've asked this on Reddit once and a few of them said they're trying to break healer meta using on Twitch for clout.

I almost exclusively play support in FPS games and it is fucking annoying how 99% of team mates run away from you like you have the ick.

Im trying to give you ammo. Stay fucking still!

Back in the days of BF3 OP Metro, i was number 8 in resupplies world wide for PS3.

Support roles are a different kind of difficulty.

viewmaster_pi posted...

i honestly hate playing medic in killing floor. people expect you to babysit them or be a healslut or whatever

LMAO game I'm actually talking about is KF2. People are notorious at playing healer but wants to DPS and not actually heal instead. Just don't play healer if you want to kill.

healers are like offensive linemen

you never hear about them when they're just doing their job, but you know damn well they'll be blamed when shit goes south

recency bias notwithstanding last night the chiefs' OL dominance deserving the collective SB MVP

VeggetaX posted...

LMAO game I'm actually talking about is KF2. People are notorious at playing healer but wants to DPS and not actually heal instead. Just don't play healer if you want to kill.

On hard mode, a combat medic is one of the best trash mob killing classes.

Its like firebug that can heal your team while killing everything in sight.

I usually end with the 501 AR and the Medic Shotgun.

I don't mind playing support. I think you're right in saying it's the easiest to play or at least the easiest to step in to. Depending on the game though it's a pretty important role and while good supports won't necessarily win a game, bad supports will definitely lose a game.

VeggetaX posted...

LMAO game I'm actually talking about is KF2. People are notorious at playing healer but wants to DPS and not actually heal instead. Just don't play healer if you want to kill.

i have the opposite experience, too many healers do nothing but heal, which doesn't actually help when the huge enemies show up and there aren't enough guns to bring them down. playing damage-medic and healing as it's needed is the right way to play. not hiding behind everyone else and not contributing to the kills

Flauros posted...

On hard mode

I only play Suicide or HoE. On hard mode you can whatever the fuck you want but the much harder difficulties people need to play their role. And Medic is super easy to play, just get the Healthrower.

viewmaster_pi posted...

i have the opposite experience, too many healers do nothing but heal, which doesn't actually help when the huge enemies show up and there aren't enough guns to bring them down. playing damage-medic and healing as it's needed is the right way to play. not hiding behind everyone else and not contributing to the kills

Healthrower kills enemies and heals your team mates at the same time. You can't fail with this weapon.

VeggetaX posted...

I only play Suicide or HoE. On hard mode you can whatever the fuck you want but the much harder difficulties people need to play their role. And Medic is super easy to play, just get the Healthrower.

I have too much bad luck with randos on higher than hard difficulty.

If its not some level 3 joining on the boss wave, its some dumbass Swat that runs the spitfires or something off the wall.

On Hard i can carry a team of 6 most of the time.

i can't fucking stand people that don't use the right weapons. i see a lot of medics do that, too.

Non-support & non-healer classes rather respawn, wait for next round, and push further than before with brute strength and tactical deaths.

Sound support and decent healing is probably needed for the more advanced battles and raids.

And yet, we never hear the end of it when other people fuck their roles up so much that we can't save them from themselves.

*dives into fights alone and outnumbered*

"OMG we'd be winning if I could get some fucking heals!"

Also, plenty of supports don't know what the fuck they are doing or completely abandon the role

VeggetaX posted...

And you've never played FPS where there's healers.

so what

are you trying to say overwatch is a benchmark for everything else out there? hes right lmao

viewmaster_pi posted...

i see a lot of medics do that, too.

Medics are tanks so people like to use them as some resilience safe boss killer. It's safe but extremely ineffective and will take forever for them to kill a boss. I see it a lot actually. be better to just play your roles right and win easily.

I like playing medic in cod zombies but they took away the 2 best medic tools after black ops 1 (knife and crossbow).

BearlyWilling posted...

Doesnt change the fact the person you quoted is objectively correct in their critique of this topic.

I've played MMOs and LoL so the guy is literally wrong about me.

Flauros posted...

I almost exclusively play support in FPS games and it is fucking annoying how 99% of team mates run away from you like you have the ick.

Im trying to give you ammo. Stay fucking still!

Back in the days of BF3 OP Metro, i was number 8 in resupplies world wide for PS3.

I miss the Battlefield days where I'd go like 3-2 in a 30 minute match and be 2nd on the leaderboard lol

Definitely depends on the game. In the games I've played though, the best healers are able to dps and heal effectively. Overhealing when you could be dpsing is obviously not optimal (but could be acceptable, again depending on the game I assume).

hockeybub89 posted...

*dives into fights alone and outnumbered*

"OMG we'd be winning if I could get some fucking heals!"

Also, plenty of supports don't know what the fuck they are doing or completely abandon the role

This happens a lot on Overwatch 2 majority of the casuals play as if its CoD where they don't want to die at all as if K/D matters here. I had a Roadhog run away mid fight to go get some dumb healing thing on the floor located like 30 steps away while he was being healed by a Mercy and he had already used up his healing thing....

FF14 is the king of healers being like you're not paying my subscription so don't tell me what to do when it comes to healing and not dpsing. Thankfully they get banned for that now

OP is a shallow minded viewpoint. Support classes when played optimally are expected not only to support and keep the group alive they are also expected to maximize DPS. They have to juggle multiple things at once, make split decisions on the fly based not only on what the enemy does but also your party does.

Knowing the correct time to do damage the correct time to throw out heals and the correct time to use support abilites takes a lot of experience and good judgement on the fly.

Healing is the role most dependent on competent teammates, too, though. It tends to swing wildly in effectiveness depending on how well your team can capitalize on your support.

In World of Warcraft, a healer can spend their downtime casting damage spells to help kill a boss more quickly. But if your DPS players are constantly taking avoidable damage, that means your downtime is spent healing their mistakes instead of killing a boss more quickly.

In a game like Overwatch, if you babysit a very strong DPS as Mercy, they can carry the entire game on their back. But if all of your players are mediocre at best, it doesn't matter who you focus your support on--they're not going to make good plays and you're going to end up losing.

There are also a lot of individual skill factors that go into playing a healing role in any gametype, such as good positioning, strategic use of cooldowns/barriers, buffs and debuffs, etc.

Healing isn't easy, it's just not identical to dealing damage.

Damage is the easy role, generally.

I find DPS the easiest as well. Though I did play ret pally.

Bullshit. If anyone dies for any reason, then it's the healers fault and the person that died becomes the most toxic person on the fucking planet.

I've played MMO's where you need a balanced team comp and the healer has to not only be aware of their own cooldowns, but also the tank and DPS cooldowns, so they know when they need to peel. It can be a lot to micromanage.

deathproof12 posted...

OP is a shallow minded viewpoint. Support classes when played optimally are expected not only to support and keep the group alive they are also expected to maximize DPS. They have to juggle multiple things at once, make split decisions on the fly based not only on what the enemy does but also your party does.

Knowing the correct time to do damage the correct time to throw out heals and the correct time to use support abilites takes a lot of experience and good judgement on the fly.

What games you play?

VeggetaX posted...

What games you play?

WOW. But the same priciple should apply in any game where support/heals are capable of doing damage

Theres not really any DPS class thats more difficult than a tank or healer. All you do is tunnel vision the boss or add and sometimes move out of a bad circle or into a good one. Someone else always does the actual mechanics for you. DPS are pretty much always the lowest common denominator

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Theres not really any DPS class thats more difficult than a tank or healer. All you do is tunnel vision the boss or add and sometimes move out of a bad circle or into a good one. Someone else always does the actual mechanics for you

Yeah, cause any time the DPS have to do something, the healer has to do it too while also keeping specific targets from dying.

Unless there are DPS checks then DPS is the least useful class because at best they make fights go faster

Irony posted...

FF14 is the king of healers being like you're not paying my subscription so don't tell me what to do when it comes to healing and not dpsing. Thankfully they get banned for that now

...they get banned for being assholes in the chat or they get banned for sucking at the game? >_>

hockeybub89 posted...

*dives into fights alone and outnumbered*

"OMG we'd be winning if I could get some fucking heals!"

Also, plenty of supports don't know what the fuck they are doing or completely abandon the role

I generally see the opposite. In a group of 5 the healer beat out the tank and a DPS on the DPS charts? (Or worse, beat out 2 DPS but not the tank). Stop the presses - kick the healer for embarrassing the DPS, the healer instead should have sat there doing nothing the entire fight and throw out just 1 single heal

Kim_Seong-a posted...

...they get banned for being assholes in the chat or they get banned for sucking at the game? >_>

Both?

VeggetaX posted...

The games I play the healers wants to dps and not heal. Like, why play healer then? I've asked this on Reddit once and a few of them said they're trying to break healer meta using on Twitch for clout.

In FF14 healers are expected to dps.

FF14 is significantly more lenient than it used to be. During the Alexander Savage raids if the healers didn't DPS the entire raid got wiped due to extremely strict DPS checks.

Irony posted...

FF14 is significantly more lenient than it used to be. During the Alexander Savage raids if the healers didn't DPS the entire raid got wiped due to extremely strict DPS checks.

It was the same before they nerfed the boss HP for phase 1 of P8S. If everyone wasn't dpsing and you had more than 2 deaths you wiped. Healers are still expected to dps though. It's noticeable in dungeons when they aren't and in savage you're just griefing the party if you aren't.

In KF2 I always played as Berserker class. I loved anyone who played medic. It makes bashing the swarms very fun! <3

deathproof12 posted...

WOW. But the same priciple should apply in any game where support/heals are capable of doing damage

Guess you haven't been reading anything we've been posting then

Frosted_Midna posted...

In KF2 I always played as Berserker class. I loved anyone who played medic. It makes bashing the swarms very fun! <3

Imagine the medic not wanting to heal you when you face off two FPs in suicide or hoe

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

It was the same before they nerfed the boss HP for phase 1 of P8S. If everyone wasn't dpsing and you had more than 2 deaths you wiped. Healers are still expected to dps though.

In any savage you have to have some very hard carries if healers don't dps at all, but yeah the first few weeks it's not even possible without healer dps.

Irony posted...

FF14 is the king of healers being like you're not paying my subscription so don't tell me what to do when it comes to healing and not dpsing. Thankfully they get banned for that now

Sounds opposite of FF11. They'd threaten to kick you if you tried to dps as a healer. In an xp party, you were expected to heal, buff, debuff, and pull the next mobs to keep the chain going. The other 5 were all damage dealer jobs who refused to control hate and whined the second they got poisoned or something. Some mobs, getting poisoned was good, because it woke you up from sleep and did next to no damage.